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Shadan
Thanks all, who tried to help me. I am happy to see there are good ppl here. smile.gif
I replayed Tolgerias (was easy 2nd time), Fire and Frost room (trivial), all golems (was a bit easier now because I knew what to expect) and Hell. I've got the stronghold this time. I am sure the problem was at 1st try that I went to Umar/Trademeet without moving back into Sphere. So few days passed before I revisited Sphere and Reyna-Teos scene wasn't triggered.

I reforged the items when I wrote before.
Next plans:
- Borinall
- Shadow dragon
- Trademeet crypt
- All stronghold quests what I can do.
- Buried alive
- I remember an animal quest for druids, but I still have to find it. smile.gif
- I read about some kind of Screaming statue, but I sill have to find it also.

I installed no improved spellhold from IA Tweaks, so in this game this will be a bit easier. I don't remember what improved spellhold exactly means, I just reread one of my V5 journal, and I wrote in 2008 that imrpoved spellhold doesn't worth it. smile.gif
Maybe on next ruin, I will try it again. I have character plans and party plan for next run. smile.gif

Critto, any chance to check that wild surge table anywhere?

DequNew
Just found that harder spellhold is 2 more amber chunks and some more experience and many fights sicnificantky harder. Screaming statue encounter have xp limit, be sure to find it before that. Fighter stronghold last quest (roenall attack) can be quite hard, better to postpone it a bit if can. Ranger stronghold quest be sure to make proper save and past time by sleeping or command to trigger next quest, because messenger Delon can be missed easily and it will fail whole stronghold quest line due to time limit.
Shadan
Thanks!

What is the limit of Screaming Statue? I have 1,7 million XP now.
Also I remember, item making is tricky in wizard stronghold. Shall I make Robe of the Apprenti, or it is irrelevant for a non single class mage, non necro protagonist?
critto
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Critto, any chance to check that wild surge table anywhere?
Sorry, missed that one. Right now you can only look it up inside the game resources (wildmag.2da), and here's a description of how everything works https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Wild_Surge
I was planning to add the table to the readme, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

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What is the limit of Screaming Statue? I have 1,7 million XP now.

The cut-off point is 2.35M XP.

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Also I remember, item making is tricky in wizard stronghold. Shall I make Robe of the Apprenti, or it is irrelevant for a non single class mage, non necro protagonist?

I think it's irrelevant for non-mage protagonist. But to make it you basically have to give them the easiest tasks first so that nobody dies in the process. Even then, there's a dice roll made in the beginning of the game for the chance of success (it'll be 100% for 18 int / 18 wiz mage protagonist, if I remember correctly).
pekkae
QUOTE(Shadan @ Jan 5 2025, 04:23 AM) *
Also I remember, item making is tricky in wizard stronghold. Shall I make Robe of the Apprenti, or it is irrelevant for a non single class mage, non necro protagonist?


Would highly recommend forging the reaching ring (or ring of wizardry, don't remember which one it's called). You main caster is going to use Vecna or if it's Neera, her own cloak in any case.
Shadan
Thanks, I forged the ring of wizardry.
Borinall dead.
I did several stronghold quests. And I want to Windspear Hills. I think dungeon here is certainly not a low level, since tha famous 2 coins + 2 gems + bone golem group appered here also. smile.gif Those many vampires were mean slo, forced me to rest to memorize and cast CC-s, because those charms are nasty.
After I met with Samia, I did werewolf part, and left the dungeon. But I promised to Samia and Firkraag I'll be back in Ch6. smile.gif
I am doing ww attacks in Trademeet atm. I failed once, hopefully I can manage it today evening.

Next plans:
Trademeet Crypt
Pirates in the dock

DequNew
Conster should be easily doable for you
Shadan
Hmm, it seems I messed up ranger stronghold. Any chance to let me to know what variables shall I change with EE Keeper to continue ranger SH progression?
I did the 1st quest: Lord Tombelthen
But missed the second: Orc Attack
Now if I go to Minister Lloyd, he says I lost the SH.
critto
Did you get Delon warning you about the attack? What's the status of the global variables OgronAttack and RangerProtector (before you visit Lloyd and learn of your failure)?
Shadan
Probably, but in new year I have a less time to play, so I probably forgot to go to Umar Hills after Delon appeared.
OgronAttack: 5
RangerProtector: 6
critto
Try setting OgronAttack to 1 and RangerProtector to 2, and then go to Umar Hills and talk to Lloyd again. See if the quest proceeds normally. Make an extra backup save before setting the variables as there might be other stuff involved, and you might save somewhere along the way inadvertently.
Shadan
Sadly it didn't help. sad.gif
I changed both variables, but Lloyd still kicks me out.
I have an old save, just after I got ranger SH. So I reloaded that, did 1st quest again, triggered Delon. Checked the 2 mentioned variables, and they were 1 and 2 as you wrote. There is an OGRONASSAULT also, I checked it, and write its number into my normal save. But that didn't help also...
critto
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I changed both variables, but Lloyd still kicks me out.

Which phrase exactly does Lloyd gives you when he kicks you out? (after you set those variables)
Shadan
After I changed OGRONASSAULT also:
"Despite all have you done for us, Shadan, you are not worthy of ranger status."
"You are not welcome here any longer, and the cabin is no longer yours to occupy. I think it would be best if you just left."

Before I changed OGRONASSAULT but AFTER I changed the other 2, there is another line between the above 2 lines:
"We had to call the Knights of the Most Noble Order..."
DequNew
Well things like that are demotivating, but that is part of og game not the mod. I have fucked up that too few times in past and that is why I warned you about it on post before. Lets hope critto can help you. There might be additional variables or some timer.
Shadan
Yes, you warned be, I just simply forgot this and Delon's appearing because I didn't have tiem to play for 1-2 days...
I missed 1 quest in bard stronghold also, but I don't care with that. Bard SH is not lost, that is just a tiny money at end and a tiny bit of XP. But ranger SH is quite different.
Next time I will do SHs one by one, just sleeping there or like. Sadly I don§t have good save to correct ranger SH thing. I would have to replay a lot and lot of things, which I don't want.
critto
OK, let's try one more time. Looks like you fail upon arrival to Umar Hills because a timer has expired. Set those two variables again and also run the following command in the console to reset the timer:
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C:Eval('SetGlobalTimer("OgronAssault","GLOBAL",THREE_DAYS)')

Then go to Umar Hills and see if it works now.
Shadan
Sadly it is not enough...
My save is in Umar Hills at ranger cabin.
I set those 2 variables.
Run tho console command. (Copied, so no mistyping and I haven't got error message.)
Lloyd says the same.

I tried to move to Temple ruins, run command there and moved back. Same problem at Lloyd.

I am thinking to stop game, or after a few days break replay a lot of things. Including:
Pirates in the Dock
Limited Wish
Trademeet Crypt
Screaming Statue
whole Bodhi's lair
Squirreled away
Buried Ambitions
Windspear Hills and Firkraag'sLair

and I don't remember what else. sad.gif
critto
You need to go out of Umar Hills completely, set both the variables and the timer, and then come back and re-try.

When you are in the cabin, the master area's script (which is Umar Hills in your case) runs in the background and messes things up as you type them in. And do everything in the console, no weird editor stuff :-)
Shadan
OMG, it worked. smile.gif At least at Lloyd...
Well not entirely... Lloyd talked with me, went to caves, killed orogs and orcs there. But no trace of Madulf in the cave, and when I go back to Lloyd, ha says:
"The Ogrons have been stopped! Blessed man! But... but what has become of Madulf anf ATta? Please Shadan... go to the cave and find out! Quickly!"
After this I went back to the cave, and it is empty, no trace of Madulf.
critto
Weird stuff. How did you resolve the conflict between Madulf and the village? What does the variable C:GetGlobal("MadulfGroupLeaves","AR1100") contain when you arrive to Umar Hills after setting all those variables?
Shadan
I solved things peacefully between Madulf and Lloyd.

C:GetGlobal("MadulfGroupLeaves","AR1100")Does not exist

Also I found a MADULFISPRESENT variable when I replayed from old save and did 1st ranger SH quest again.
So I tried to add this variable to the edited save (with other 2 variables) which didn't work either,
DequNew
Try to go to cave and spawn madulf manually
critto
Yes, I am curious what would happen too if you did that. Madulf's creature file is UHOGRE01
Shadan
I am not expert in this kind of machinations, but after several tries I was able to spawn Madulf with C:CreateCreature("UHOGRE01") command. it seems quest is finished, I've got XP and Journal entry at Lloyd.
Thanks for help (especially thanks to Critto), but I am a bit worried atm.
Critto, do you think this won't cause any further problem in ranger SH quest line?
I will do 3rd quest now and there isn't any further quest in ranger SH, is it? New quests in Ch6. Right?

critto
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I will do 3rd quest now and there isn't any further quest in ranger SH, is it? New quests in Ch6. Right?

It's just the vanilla three, unless you're playing a ranger protagonist. All new ranger stuff (for ranger protagonists) is CH6, correct. Also, the Umar Witch fight is improved, might be a bit tough, but probably doable in the end of CH3.
Shadan
So my progress report after a long agony with ranger SH:

Borinall: Easy on this level.
Pirates in the Dock
SPOILER!
(I used the hit and run here. Killed pirates within a moments. Then moved out of LOS of coordinator, except mages under SI: Abj. When he started to cast, ran in, landed some hit, moved out again. When he started to cast again, ran in and killed him. All scrolls were looted, because he casted only True Seeing and RRR)


Limited Wish: Was easy. I thought it is improved.
Trademeet Críyot: I didn't have Creeping Doom yet, so I just went in with max buffs, and hit as hard I could. smile.gif

Screaming Statue: I did all waves within Impr. haste duration. At first look Master Vampire was a bit scary, but he died quite fast. Used up 2 giant str. potions.
My party has an enormous melee power: 4 Improved Haste + RB inner IH.
Avanger 6 apr (gloves + stance), 24 Str with DUHM
Sibel 6 apr, 25 Str with DUHM and Right. Magic.
RB: 8 apr. 24 Str with Phosphorous
Kensai: 6 apr 19 Str, sometimes I drink giant str. potion.
Nalia: 6 apr, 20 Str with Gian Strentgh spell, or more with potion.

Whole Bodhi's lair: I thought it is much harder, but it was very easy, seems not improved at all. Next time I will do it much early since great chunk of XP is there.
Squirreled away: Was easy in Ch3 part. I suppose it will be much harder later.

Buried ambitions: Those werewolves cause a bit problem. Stun, fear when Resist Fear expired and the run away at low HP. So it took like 4 tries to beat them.

I hope I did all unmodded SH quests:
- Thief SH refused
- Bard SH finished and sold.
- Cleric SH finished.
- Ranger SH: vanilla content finished. Umar was a bit surprise and at 1st try without buffs I died. But went back and buffed up correctly, so no golems were summoned, because both Umar and Imp died before that.
- Wizard SH: Ring of Wizardry forged. Vanilla SH content finished.
- Druid: Vanilla content finished. Chaos is destroyed.
- Paladin: Haven't finished Firkraag's lair yet.

As far as I see only Shadow Dragon left, and I am ready to move to Spellhold. Maybe I kill dragon today, and will start Spellhold tomorrow. smile.gif



critto
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Whole Bodhi's lair: I thought it is much harder, but it was very easy, seems not improved at all. Next time I will do it much early since great chunk of XP is there.
There are some improved fights, but probably not a big challenge at your level.

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I hope I did all unmodded SH quests:

There's a list of challenges in the readme, you can always check in to make sure.
Shadan
I've killed shaodw dragon. You were right, was not difficult. 2 RRR and several (5-6) Breach.
I've checked what I can forge and I was disappointed. Forged Shadow Dragon Scale, bot nothing else was available. I hoped to forge at least Treefolk's Arm +3, but it seems I am missing Blackblood club +2. I've checked Trademeet, but it seems it is randomized item also. So I forged a lot of ring+2 and few cloak+2. I think I will have money in Ch6 to forge items, because there is a lot of content and fight still on the road to there.
DequNew
Chapter6 there are so much more available to craft that I always find not having enough money.
You could do fighter stronhold before spellhold if you havent done it yet.
critto
Locations for Blackblood:
SPOILER!
Gaal, Torgal, Priest of Cyric, Slaver Ship
Shadan
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You could do fighter stronhold before spellhold if you havent done it yet.
I did few quests there, but stopped one quest before Roenall. I remember, I had a problems with that when that was the next before Spellhold. and some timer ran out when I came back in Ch6.

SPOILER!
Gaal, Torgal, Priest of Cyric, Slaver Ship

Well I hope it is at Gaal, because I've killed Torgal and cleared Slaver Ship. I don't know where is Priest of Cyric. It he is et Theshal, I haven't killed him also.


I did Brynnlaw and most of the Spellhold. Brynnlaw is nothing special.

Spellhold:

Spiders: Easy.
Elemental golem: Suprised first, reload, rest, buff, forgot elemental damage. Reload, medium hard fight, killed all golems with 2 Fire Giant Str potion used.
SPOILER!
Later I've found out, I could farm a little XP and loot, I I wait EG summons all 6 minor golems. Maybe at next EG's I will do that.


Shade Lich: This was hard, mostly because party was tired out of buffs and I Didn't want rest. smile.gif Sibel tanked the lich until he was out of PfMW.
Kobolds: Easy on my level and with my strong party.
Tome: Easy also.
Cat: Was easy, but Librarian surprised me. I was not prepared for her, but I killed him as I did with shade lich: Sibel tanked him for a looong time.
Vampire lord: Easy, killed him very fast. Breach helped.

Then Mithril golem: well this was hard....

SPOILER!
I don't have any good high level summon. So I summoned clan hunter + 4 mountain bears. Buffed to max. death ward on summons. 3 Cloud Giant Str. and 2 Invu potions used.
4 bears were the first who engaged with golem, then Sibel. Bears soaked the first 2 rounds of MG. Avanger engaged next. RB and kensai summoned Joloon and spider as a bit more distraction.
Spell trigger 3 Lower Res, Nalia casted the 4th. Then I've tried the following spells:
Sequencer: Gr. Malison + 2 Slow. Gr. Mallison was applied, but I am unsure of Slow. I've casted 2 more Slow, and sometimes there was a save message sometimes there wasn't. But apr of MG seemingly didn't changed.
Minor Seq: 2 Ray of Enf. One save message, other applied I think, but damage of MG wasn't lowered.
Doom: I am unsure.
Polymorph: No effect. smile.gif
Web: No effect.

After this it was only a hack and slash. I have great melee power, Nalia with Rod of Smiting. smile.gif
I wanted to tank with Sibel: AC-20 + belt-4 vs. crushing, -4 Shield of Archon (too pity a level 7 spell, not so long duration and easily can be dispelled), -4 Impr. Invis, -2 Def. Harmony. She was able to avoid few hits, but soon 1 hit landed, and whole buffs went to the hell... Well, Impr. Inv. stayed on, so I was not able to cast Heal with avanger on Sibel. smile.gif And bleed prevented her to cast Gr. Resto. Also MG changed target frequently, targeted even those who stood a little bit behind, like kensai and avanger. So I am unsure, how was able others to tank him perfectly. But, my party's great melee power killed him reasonable fast. All melees were under bleed effect, so I was not able to heal from spells, I had to drink some Extrahealing portions after the fight. Golden Cat Figurine saved my kensai in the fight. smile.gif


I am a bit clueless about Spellhold. My next party will be weaker I think than the current one. I have 3 options regarding Spellhold:
1. I go to Spellhold before the XP limit of improved version. I Don't like this, because I have to skip few fights which are challenge and enjoying in CH3, but easy and a bit boring in Ch6.
2. I go to improved Spellhold, which will be a bit hard to a weaker party, and I will suffer there.
3. Apply IE Tweaks no improved Spellhold, but in this case, maybe Spellhold will be a bit too easy as it was now with this party.

I have to consider this. smile.gif
critto
Priest of Cyric is the one in the Slaver Ship.
DequNew
QUOTE(Shadan @ Jan 14 2025, 02:15 AM) *
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You could do fighter stronhold before spellhold if you havent done it yet.
I did few quests there, but stopped one quest before Roenall. I remember, I had a problems with that when that was the next before Spellhold. and some timer ran out when I came back in Ch6.

There might be still timers, I remember something like it is timer safe to do one quest before flood but not flood.
Shadan
I've finished Spellhold. Irenicus was not so hard as it seemed at first glance.

SPOILER!
Clones were handled with the usual Spell Sequencer (Gr. Mali + 2 Emotion)
Then they were mostly killed with Spell Trigger (3 Ch. L.) + Creeping Doom.
I think the Creeping Doom was the key, because I targeted the clone next to Irenicus, so the Big Bad Guy was doomed also. Doom prevented his spellcasting for several rounds which was enough to kill Asylum Scouts and clones. I thought scouts are golems, because of graphic and immunities were similar to gem golems. So Nalia tried to use Rod of Smithing. But apparently theye were not golems since Neera's RoF didn't effect them.
After the scouts and golems it was the usual thing: keep the mage busy until his SI:Div wears out. Then easy kill.


I was a bit dissappointed because I haven't found any loot after this "not so simple" fight. I left Spellhold with portal, then I relized, that I missed the druid quest. So reloaded, and left with the pirate through Brynnlaw. Amber golem ambush and Balduran isle was not hard, so I am in sahuagin area now.
Shadan
Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstrike, W. of Banshee scrolls, +3 staff for 2 reputation?


DequNew
QUOTE(Shadan @ Jan 17 2025, 01:58 AM) *
Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstrike, W. of Banshee scrolls, +3 staff for 2 reputation?

Not really, but I usually kill for the experience. Reputation and loot does not matter much (bit sellable for caps)
DequNew
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Shadan
Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Prince, since only Prince fight is upgraded in IA, as far as I've seen. Killed 3-4 waves of snakes, then I was bored, so killed the Prince.

Underark 1st area done also:
Drow ambush was an easy despite of purge magic. I did full rebuff berfore, but all buffs went to the nihil. smile.gif
Drow+spider grp: I remember formerly I pulled them out of improved web. Now I did a fair fight and did whole fight within the web. Prebuuffed FAs before, and renewed them during the fight when it was needed.
N'ashtar and Party suprised me first when my party was exhausted. So rest, rebuff and easy win.

I am in Ust Natha now.
DequNew
QUOTE(Shadan @ Jan 17 2025, 06:49 PM) *
Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Prince, since only Prince fight is upgraded in IA, as far as I've seen. Killed 3-4 waves of snakes, then I was bored, so killed the Prince.

You can kill both sides. Prince can be killed only after all snakes waves are dealth, so you killed them all.
For Ust Natha dont miss easily missable quest "Mystery of Third color quest".
Shadan
SPOILER!
For Ust Natha dont miss easily missable quest "Mystery of Third color quest".


Thanks, I will search for that. Now I am stucked. I did almost everything in the drow city, so I started the "3 noble blood" with beholders. Killed Elder orb at entrance, but Ancient Golem seems impossible.
I don't have HLA's yet, nor lvl 9 spells. I tried the following:
Avanger PC aggroed golem. Nalia Spell Seq. Gr. Malison + 2 Emotion on beholders. These 2 chars ate purge magic.
My other 4 chars + clan hunter full buffed run in and kills beholder very fast before 1st golem is summoned. Then I kill 1st coin and gem.
But Ancient golem is too hard. He dispels elemental protection, dispels IH, even giant str potions also. He hits hard, knock out chars.
Shall I leave the beholder cave and ancient golem? Can I come back here in CH6? Or if I do the other 2 noble blood (kuo-tua and mind flayer) and come back here after those, will I have enough power to beat him in this chapter?
PC is lvl 16 (only 1 lvl 7 spell, so max. 1 anaconda)
Sibel, RB, Kensai is lvl 19
Nalia and Neera is lvl 17.

And what is the condition mentioned here:
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New conditional encounter in Deirex's Cave in Ust Natha

I've killed Deirex the lich for Jarlaxle, and I haven't seen any special there.
critto
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Killed Elder orb at entrance, but Ancient Golem seems impossible.
Strange that you've seen him. It is "hidden" chapter 6 content (at least, difficulty-wise). But anyhow, it's okay to come back for him in CH6.

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New conditional encounter in Deirex's Cave in Ust Natha

When you pick up the efreeti bottle from his treasure trove, you'll will fight said Efreeti.
Shadan
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Strange that you've seen him. It is "hidden" chapter 6 content (at least, difficulty-wise). But anyhow, it's okay to come back for him in CH6.
I figured this out from content page on this site. Will I loose something if I skip beholder cave except elder orb? Because ancient golem is in the way and I cannot avoid him if I move inner to the cave.

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When you pick up the efreeti bottle from his treasure trove, you'll will fight said Efreeti.

Hmm, maybe I missed treasure trove there... I will check it soon. Thanks.
SparrowJacek
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I figured this out from content page on this site. Will I loose something if I skip beholder cave except elder orb? Because ancient golem is in the way and I cannot avoid him if I move inner to the cave.

There's the "Deeper than the Underdark" quest/area there. In v6.0 it was only available before chapter 6, but I think in v7.0 you can postpone it, but you'll lose some part of the loot, but critto would have to confirm that.

Btw can't you just avoid the golem? Use Ctrl+J to teleport or something similar.
critto
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Hmm, maybe I missed treasure trove there... I will check it soon. Thanks.
Yes, there are two levels in the tower.

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There's the "Deeper than the Underdark" quest/area there. In v6.0 it was only available before chapter 6, but I think in v7.0 you can postpone it, but you'll lose some part of the loot, but critto would have to confirm that.

That's correct, it should be available but with less loot. The challenge itself is perfectly doable in ch5 though.

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Btw can't you just avoid the golem? Use Ctrl+J to teleport or something similar.

Worst case scenario, this can be used, yes. But we ran into this very issue during testing of v7 and that's why we specifically set it to spawn only in CH6 onwards (unless the "hard mode" component of IA Tweaks is installed). That's why I find it strange that the golem spawns in Chapter 5.
DequNew
There is enough space to go around ancient golem. Just hug left wall, go under.

If you postpone Dracolich fight to later chapter you miss these loot drops:
SPOILER!
5000 gold
Potion of Barbarian Essence
Scroll of Limited Wish
Scroll of Hand of Undoing
Scroll of Bless
Scroll of Protection from Level Drain
Shadan
Nowadays I have a little less time to play, and I have to admit I am stucked at dracolich...

But first my progression:

- The whole drow city: Was easy, but I've enjoyed House Jae'llat. It was refreshing when main concern was not a mage/lich etc. Just lof of fighters and clerics. I have to replay the whole city, first I've missed the 3rd colour quest, because I roleplayed in a certain situation.
- Kou-toan caverns: Not too difficult, however Prince fight was enjoying. Not too easy, but not too hard. Skipped Demon Knights, I wanted 1 HLAs before I try this fight. I thought I will do after I finish noble blood quest, dracolich and leave drow city.
- Mind Flayer caverns: Well, Elder Brain was a bit pain. I wanted to farm out 6 golems from Elemental golem, but I was not successfull. Mindflayers died very fast, also brain golems. But somehow the elemental golem always killed one of my character. Either because I was out of Ironskins and bad timed heal, or because of failed save against Elder's brain stun. At end I abandoned this concept, and killed EG after 2 golems. At very end kensai died (1st death in my current play), but I didn't want to replay the whole fight again. I had 10+ tries on this already. I am sure, I can do it without a death, but I had no patience to do it again. 1 Raise Dead scroll, loot and I left those filthy tunnels. smile.gif
- Beholder Tunnels: Elder orb was easy. The only concern to avoid or survive that nasty 3 ADHW Chaint Cont. Ancient golem was there again, but I was able to skip him. Beholders near the AG saw me, and came after me, but golem didn't, luckily... So I was able to reach the stairs to...

... Deeper than Underdark: Well, it is remarkable quest, because as soon as I entered I remembered from my former plays 15 years ago. smile.gif But I have to admit my tactical skill is not same as it was before... I was not able to kill dracolich from appr. 20 tries. My tactic is below:

SPOILER!
- Avanger PC went down the stairs and summoned smilodon. Others stayed at entrance to avoid Gr. Silence, and started to buff.
- RB moved to Dracolich after 1st silence and helped PC in tank duty.
- PC was near to dracolich all time, summoned a clan hunter, but he was useless otherwise because of silence. He just poked the PfMW with staff.
- Mages (Nalia and Neera) casted Remove Fear and Limited Wisd (prot. from leveldrain which was dispelled by dragon from 2-3 chars) then they buffed themselves with spell protections (SI:A, GoI, Spell Turning). My idea was to keep dracolich busy for short time to remove these, while they are renewing them as needed. Nalia always was silenced very fast, but Neera was able to avoid silence and recast several spell protections.
- Kensai stayed away, she doesn't have any type of protection exc. 1 Hardiness. So she just summoned from items (lion, spider, efreeti, berzerker).
- Sibel Prot. from Evil 10', then Death Ward on Nalia and Neera. She moved nearer occasionally to cast ZoSA (remove Death Fog), but mainly summoned bears and Gr. Resto from far.
- Beside durable summons (Clan hunter and smilodon), I've tried to keep other summons (item summons, bears etc.) 1 or max. 2 at the same time, to keep dracolich casting Death Spells.

But Gr. Silence + leveldrain + Gr. Doom + wail always killed 1-2 characters, sometimes my PC. I've tried to use Potion of Magic Shielding, to avoid this, but I didn't want to use up too much, because I remember it is very useful in later game also. And if I didn't time it precisely just before the wail, dracolich always dispelled it.
And it seems dracolich is never out ot PfMW... So I am a stucked and a bit clueless.


My first HLA's:
PC: smilodon
Sibel: She haven't got HLA yet.
RB and Kensai: Hardiness
Nalia: 6th level slot
Neera: Alacrity (However she was not able to use this, because any notable enemy are immune to everything, so there was not a chance to use it offensively. As a defensive use I wanted to use it in dracolich fight, to buff up IHs very fast when dracolich is out of PfMW or near out of it, but seemingly he has plentiful of that nasty defensive spell.)
SparrowJacek
Well, the Dracolich is much easier before you get HLAs (before PC has 3.4M exp to be precise). From what I remember Skeleton Warriors are pretty good at tanking him, as they're immune to most status effects, to cold and somewhat resistant to his attacks. You should also have some Scrolls of Protection From Level Drain, there's like only 1 other place where those scrolls are very useful, if you're not planning to forge that anti-undead sword. And potions should be used in those situations, where other means fail to grant you victory, so I recomment chugging as many of them as necessary to grant you victory smile.gif you can always resupply later.
Shadan
Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I have 2 Prot. from Level Drain scrolls, I try to use one. But skelly spam is a great idea.
DequNew
QUOTE(Shadan @ Jan 28 2025, 01:11 AM) *
Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I have 2 Prot. from Level Drain scrolls, I try to use one. But skelly spam is a great idea.

You need all scrolls for sword I believe
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