Hey,

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Sometimes, usually I try to make sure there's no encounters that could trigger and then I might skip the walk (with ctrl+j).

The only messenger I know I've missed thus far is the keep messenger forfirst Lord Roenall meet. But that's how it's always gone.

Sibel is at 5,37Mexp.

What are the values of these global variables in your game?

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Thanks for the help!

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Can you share where there?

I'm just looking to have a quick look, I have 30 minutes and then I gotta go. And I'll be off for a few weeks maybe or so.

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Hmh. I didn't find anything. I think I defeated them (geg+raksasha fairly, ( the spawns not so much, hah))

Looking at Nicoper's journal I also haven't seen these:

- "meat a leather golem"
- "Meeting a much less polite golem after the talk in copper coronet"
- "A duchess? (not 100% sure) requiring help, linked to Sibel"

Well, anyway - I gotta go! Thanks for the help!

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alright, defeated everyone fair and square. we are so good in h2h it isn't a problem (just dodge the initial purge).

nature's fists are awesome here.

didn't find anything & the value is at 4 still.

"I'll ba back"

See my recent reply before your last one.

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Yes, this an oversight, will be fixed some time in the future, I guess.

A for Vecna, I am not sure yet, this requires a deep dive into the logic. Perhaps, Sikret was right in his initial idea when the changes to the distribution were applied in v7. For now, my suggestion to any who runs into this bug is to fix the issue locally with the console (send us a message if you don't know how to exactly).


I think the messengers shouldn't bug out in v7 anymore, we did some testing and introduced a patch for that.

Regarding the gift, SPOILER!

Regarding Vecna, just don't attack Samia before finding the treasure in the tomb. Let her perform her little plot and initiate the fight.

Alright. I have a few days / some time during the weekend.

We'll push through, let's see how far we can go.

Yes, this works! Thank you!



Yes, that should be correct.



I have a suggestion for this, that combines both approaches. Since I get the "encourages honest approach" in the game while I also understand that it would be extremely frustrating to miss out on such an important item because of a logic that one was not aware of.

Thus I'd suggest that choosing the worng path with Samia the location changes to Ancient Dragon, because that's a punishment in itself .

Thanks again!

Any specifics here? Or just general feedback?

Updated the journal with the latest fights & included stats & found a game breaking bug (need to quite & start over the whole game).

Great progress! Ahhh, Sikret was sure that the encounter under CC should be impossible to win without help From what I remember the exp reward is greater for that, but you might lose some additional interesting dialogues.

Who is that Duchess? Do you have a save game around that time? Can you tell us what exactly did you do?

Hmh. It wasn't difficult at all with our setup.



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Alright. That's a bit of a shame.

Hmh. Did I miss out on anything noticeable? (like super-items or something like that...)

XP is maybe slightly higher with help (+/- 20k per person depending on how much "help" you get). But gold/crafting rewards (e.g. amber parts) are equivalent between the two versions. It's been a while and I didn't take notes on that part, plus there may have been some fine tuning after I did it.

When you install too many tweaks and give yourself access to all stronghold quests of all classes, you gain too much XP and probably extra gold and items and you can win any fight. A normal party has very low chance to win the fight against Andrias Amberville without help.

As for Tolgerias he should not be there in the building at that stage of the game. We have tested this many times. I don't know how he was there in your game even after you killed him in planar sphere. Some unsupported installation or combination of mods?

Hmh. I wasn't aware I had many tweaks. I think multiple strongholds is IA standard, but am I mistaken? Isn't Lord Roenall an actual location for the Sentinel for example? (it's a crucial item).

The only extra thing I did have is ToD, but missing out on Sibel's village quest - xp evens most of that, so that doesn't throw the game off-balance (and apparently we could have gotten better rewards with the help !, so all in all we should be about even). Oh and we of course did do the extended mage stronghold quests, so I guess there are those. Haven't counted the XP gained from those, but I'm guessing it's in the vicinity of 100-200k per character. I think I saw a calculation somewhere, but I have no idea where. It doesn't really look like it's a decisive factor there.

I think the decisive factor there is that we a little bit by accident stumbled upon an extremely efficient party composition, that is really well equipped to handle the new challenges. And with my standard style of a play-through, we also maximize the potential as far as possible.


For the bug> Yup, Tolgerias isn't there in that stage of the game. I consoleed myself in just before the duchess activates, and he isn't there. He is only there for the Duchess quest.

So I have:

- Bf2EE 2.6.6.0
- IA 7.0
- IATweaks (simplified economy etc.)
- ToD

Edit: Oh and I also have been keeping notes on every single change/tweak I do and I will of course post then at the end of the journal. Once I get to it.

I meant the extended ones introduced by IA: Shimmering light, Good bad ugly, Marvella...



I don't understand this bug. I have tested Sibel's quest 4 times myself, once in classic TOB and 3 times in EE and never had such a problem. Other testers never reported any such issue either.

The starting conditions are different. As I understand, pekkae didn't ever initiated the quest overtly by going to Tolgerias in the beginning of the game. He just went to the sphere, eventually. I suspect that this is vanilla issue, not connected to the new quest event at all. It simply manifests itself at the unfortunate moment. The simplest way to test it is to go to the council building with the party, after the sphere quest has been finished, and see if the bug occurs.

Yes. This is correct. I didn't meet Tolgerias until in the sphere.

I did try to see if he was in the building before the duchess quest launches, so post whacking him in the sphere, but he wasn't.

Hey!

Can someone hint me the following:

- Can "the protector" be located in WK? It wasn't where it usually is @ sulda.
- I haven't found the robe of fire resistance yet, I'm much looking forward to that one, is that in WK? (don't really have places anywhere else left...)
- Is there more Sibel Quests in SoA (after the help-fight)

Thanks!

Sorry, but what is that? The only item with such name I see in game files is just a common amulet +1.


From what I see, it's a static loot and it's indeed deeper in WK, though I'm a bit surprised that it's not available earlier.


No, the finale will be available in ToB.

Thanks, allright!

Ahem, my mistake. Meant of course the gift of peace so the helm of defence. The helm that is needed for forging another helm (Reinforced HoB).

This item is randomised over a few areas, if you still haven't found it then... it's most probably deeper in WK I see that you had some bad luck with randomisation, but at least you have Vecna!

I had bad luck with Vecna as well .

But alright, I'll probably stumble into it in the near future!

Thanks for the help, yet again!

ps. updated the journal a little bit. Not sure If I'm completely overblowing this but Nicoper *did* instruct me to gain as much xp as possible.

Well, the fight is hard, but you don't need to be THAT cautious. In my playthrough I had around 5,2M per character when starting the last fight of Burried Ambitions. I'm sure that with your prowess in the game, powerful party and very high levels you'll beat that encounter rather easily

Yu, I figured I might be overblowing this somewhat. Then again, it looked quite troiblesome on my first few tries.

Well, I'll go for it once Vagrant has decent chance of staying alive. So I guess a few items + one level more (for an extra hardiness).

Updated Journal & updated the last section, tweaks / bugs etc. Found another quite big bug (with DUHM).

I didn't make it to the BA finale yet and I'm not sure when I can continue the run.

Anyway, I've had a complete blast again. Thank you!

Finished BA finale(?), or does this continue in ToB?

I think it's quite difficult on insane; this time Vagrant wasn't in that much trouble though. That permanent -25 / -27 ac helps!

Finished SoA.

Now it's just ToB, which I'll play through once I have the time.

But I'm much looking to whack demo the first chance I have + looking forward to the next Sibel encounter + new finale.

IIRC there was a ring of regen with Ribald in vanilla? I guess that's not stealable anymore? Is there a 2nd ring of regeneration in the game somewhere? I used the one I got from spellhold at some point on some equipment but would really like to get theinproved gaxx as well, it would fit my crew really well.

No, in IA there's only the one you get in Spellhold.

Allright, thanks Critto & everyone!

Well, all done now.

Updated journal & added some notes.

I had a blast, again!

Oh, btw.

There's a really nice map with Neera's TOB quest both the arena + inside of the arena.

The inside of the arena is a full map, of which the game uses only a fraction (the part with the merchants). I think it could be easily re-used for something easily.

Cool, pekkae, congrats! I'll read the full journal now

The areas in EE are great indeed. Probably the only redeeming part of the new added content.

Thank you for another great playthrough and journal! I hope that when my changes get released you'll find them interesting enough to test another party composition

Allright! As Cespenar would say "enjoy". I hope there's something worth while!

Haha! I'll certainly endeavour to do so, RL permitting!

It's going to be with maximum overpowerdness:

Necro (PC)
Minsc (though cheated to LG)
F/M (elf, probably)
Cernd
Sibel
Riskbreaker

Would have wanted Mazzy instead of the Riskbreaker, but it would be overlapping equipment wise with the Barbarian (gloves), Sentinel we need for the staff (not Mazzy's shield) and paws we need for Cernd, instead of using them on the uber-plate.

Riskbreaker isn't overlapping with anything equipment wise and brings it's own gear, so I think it makes the party much more powerful. And with this creq, we can even use the gauntlets of extraordinary specialization for the F/M. Plus buffed up Cernd should have 4 APR with constant 25 STR + Uber staff, so he should be able to make an impact in H2H as well.