If you find some, post it here, please...

va#calan:

1. weilder -> wielder
2. how did this end up in Faerun

Already noticed, you´re not the first one... Shame on me... Will remane it to something else... Although I don´t know anything else with this properties... Maybe I must imagine some...

Thanks.

Tian is not showing up in the Crooked Crane for me. This might be due to the fact that I have the "restored crooked crane" component of Unfinished Business installed? Although I installed ToD after UB.

Regardless, I will just CLUA him in and have a go at the tower that way

to nataben1314: will be corrected in next version. At this stage the mod is not compatible with UB, if you install Restore Crooced Crane component... Sorry for that.

Hey it's no problem at all! It isn't as if its very difficult for me to simply CLUAConsole the guy in!

my solo M/T will hopefully tackle the great tower tonight or tomorrow morning!

Thanks again for the cool mod!

I’ve come across a strange situation while playing ToD

The floor right under the area with the frozen girls.
1. I let my mage go upstairs alone (leaving PC downstairs) and cast fireball on a dryad
2. She starts the dialog, then goes hostile and moves herself and the other (still frozen) girl downstairs
3. I move the rest of my party upstairs, while the dryads are still down with Gulin, casting spells
4. Upstairs I am able to sleep, until most of the spells are cast, and then kill the dryad
5. When I come back to the portal, their frozen copies are still there, but immune to fireball this time.
The end.

Funny. I didn´ t count with this option. Maybe I will just temporary block the travel region back to Gulin while you fight with Wistemach. So you won´t be able to run away from battle anymore. And of course, party will be required from next version forward to go to dryads room...

Anyway, they shouldn´t be there next time forzen because of global variable. And while Wistemach is alive, Pandaira should be still in snare. She shouldn´t be moving at all... And I wonder how Wistemach could go downstairs? Travel region to Gulin´s room has flag "NPC can´t pass"...

HERD, man, you just cheated my mod....

She wants to talk to PC only

I managed to save the second girl from destruction by lightning, while killing the first one, but she wouldn't talk to me, and now I have three frozen girls - two upstairs, one downstairs.

(check the guardian area for similar stuff)

Yes, but shouldn´t the travel region´s flag "NPC can´t pass" prevent her from going to lower levels? What good is it then for??



I will simply deactivate those regions, both for dryad´s room and for guardian´s room as well

Probably it disables fleeing, could you set it to the entrance so the zombies don't flee into the tower when turned?

Not like my team would have more chance that way

Flag in travel region to Baloar´s room already set... Thanks Avenger.

A few typos:

va#gulin.tra:

setup.tra:

If it's legends (in plural), it should be 'say'.


Also, Baloar, the tower guardian, is he a singular being/demon, or is he supposed to be one of Planescape's Greater Tanar'ri? If it's the latter, the proper name is Balor.

Hi, Daulmakan, thanks for the typos...

About tower Guardian - Baloar is his own name, it is not supposed to mean his kind. Yes, he´s Balor, if you mean his origin, and his name is Baloar.... Funny, isn´t it??

This happens with ToD v3.1, too.
You wrote:

It looks like, that this is not corrected in the new version of ToD.

Greetings Leomar

As I'm not at home atm (...on my way to Czech Republic...), I'll correct it after I'll return back.

Though we're in the Bugs thread for simplicity's sake, it's important to emphasize that the aforementioned problem is definitely not ToD's bug. It's a serious bug of Unfinished Business, and to my knowledge, it has been already corrected in the local version of the developers.

You are completly right. It is a incombatibility between ToD and BG1 UB and that is mentioned in this thread. And Valiant has said, that he will make it compatible together and that is very great of him and therefore I asked.


Unfortunately the incompatibility exists with ToD v3.1 and BG1 UB.
Valiant, you want to correct this or shoud I ask at PPG forum?

Greetings Leomar

@Valiant

Fixing other mods' bugs in your mod has exactly this problem that people will keep asking you rather than the main culprit to do more and more fixes. If you remember, when you decided to fix UB's bug in ToD for the first time, I told you not to do it, but you didn't listen. Now, as you read in the posts, the plain bug in UB has changed name to "ToD's incompatibility with UB"! This is the price of not taking the advice I gave you at that time.

UB is a heavily bugged and low quality mod, anyway. I don't understand why some people are still using it.

Something happened between ToD 3.0 and 3.1 maybe because I have installed UB for BG2 (with the Restore Crooked Crane comp.) with ToD 3.0 before and had no problems and I don't think BG1 UB would have any thing to do with that.

The "fix" (workaround) that was first introduced to this problem seems to be correct, and I see the same code in ToD 3.1 for it. So it's interesting that the bug caused by UB appeared again, but Valiant will surely find the reason. Perhaps something has changed, indeed. (I don't assume you accidently use the outdated version, Leomar.)


BG1 UB or (BG2) UB? I think you meant the latter. Anyway, it's an incompatibility of UB with all mods that use the Crooked Crane inn's original script, and has nothing to do with ToD apart from the fact that ToD is also the victim of that error. To my knowledge, the developers have fixed it (but not yet released the fixed version), so hopefully the new release of UB will solve this problem once and for all.

It might have to do with some kind of biffing not leaving the correct file in the override.



optimized rewrite:


EXTEND_TOP creates the bcs file if missing, and doesn't require to be inside COPY_EXISTING (EXTEND_* is an action, not a patch). It might be more mod friendly if a biffing routine removes ar0021.bcs from the override, or something. If we want to nitpick, there's also the option of moving Tian to another location altogether, and/or summon him in the City Door district area and then move him to the Crooked Crane (Keto does the same thing to summon her in an area without an area script).

No, we used v3.1, now.


Uups. Sorry, yes I mean BG2 UB.

Sikret is right. Valiant is very kindly to make his mod with UB compatible and has of course thereby now additional work and one thinks his mod is incompatible with UB. Right, that's not fair. ToD is a supportet mod and UB unfortunately not more. The last fixes of UB are long ago. Valiant should decide if he want to do the changes or we all hope of a new version of UB. I think, that's why I asking, that Valiant could be helpful in this case, because he is active and we have with him a chance, to get both mods installed together. Unfortunately, this I can't say for UB. I see not really a new update of UB in the near future.

Now we have two options.
1.) Valiant make the needed changes (this would be again a very kindly help of him, but don't forget Sikret words)
2.) We try to make a patch/fix without bothering Valiant.

Greetings Leomar

Valiant, you don't need to make changes. As it is mentioned in your readme, we should install ToD after Devine Remix. If we do that, we install ToD after UB, too. And if we install ToD after UB the bug not occurs. Tian is normally showing up. So I think we have fixed this problem with the right installation order.

Edit: The only thing you could do is to mention it in the readme like you do with Divine Remix.

A new bug: The component [Encounter with Ustrain] will not be installed, because by va#ustrn.TRA is missing a "~" at the end of @27 and @46 .

Greetings Leomar

This is strange. I remember that Valiant and Razfallow had tested that component (once with and once without IA installed) for ToD v3 and no other player has reported any such problem.

Have you possibly changed those dialogue lines for v3.1, Valiant?

In version 3.1 it was changed to

UB still has to be installed before ToD, but I've suggested to Valiant to remove ACTION_IF FILE_EXISTS_IN_GAME ..., then it won't be dependent on installation order.


Leomar forgot to mention that this bug is in german TRA only, all other languages are OK.

Then it is our mistake, because we made the German translation. Sorry.
Could you correct this?

Greetings Leomar

So, I have finally returned back from Prague. I had some work to do there. To conclude all this:

- I have corrected the .tp2 code according to The Bigg and Razfallow´s advices
- checked the German translation file, but it seems to be fine, all lines have "~" at the end.

Compiled a new version, but the name will remain the same, V3.1...

Already uploaded, so please, Baronius, transfer it to DHDC as usual. Hope you all will be satisfied now.

That's weird, because I downloaded ToD this morning and german's va_ustrain.tra had two ~ missing. I uploaded corrected file in the post above.

Weird or not, I just checked it, few seconds ago, no missing signs. Maybe some bug during the RAR compression? Really doubt it

Don´t know if Baronius already transfered it to DHDC by now, but I uploaded it to my own ftp few hours ago. Just give him time..

It has just been uploaded!

Thank you all for your help and special thanks for Valiant for the new updated ToD.

Greetings Leomar

can't install the newest version. Any help?

The error message:


Greetings
Spike

\edit: Wrong placed "~" in line 20 in SETUP-TOD.TP2. It is working now.

Replaced with the new file!

Thanks, Baronius Now it should be working just fine...

Hi!
Hope you guys are still visiting this forum.
I encountered something weird.
I talked to Tian, he takes me to the captain, and when everybody is on the ship, the game asks for CD 255 and then crashes.
This is the screen, right before it crash:

Anybody knows what the problem is?

I guess the movie, which should play after you get on the ship, is causing this crash, but I don't know why. I suggest to reinstall the mod and try it again. And if it still crashes, download the attached file, rename it to va#04sc.bcs and put it to override, it will disable the movie.

Funny, I´ve never noticed this kind of bug, neither my testers and the rest of the mod players... Raz is right, try to reinstall it and if it won´t work, then use Raz´s script...

This sort of thing can happen if you didn't do a full install of BG2; the easiest solution is to put "Disable Movies=1" in the [Movie Options] section of baldur.ini.
source.

Thanks for the replys.
I did a full install, and I have some mods installed, all weidu mods.
I'll try to reinstall, and will be back to let you know if it worked.
Thanks again.

Didn't work. Reinstalled it, but the game crashes the same way.
And I hate to miss a part of the history.
Using that script to skip the movie, will I miss too much?

I just remembered:
I'm using multi install tool, to keep a clean install of BGII (to multiplay) and a modded install (the 'clone' one) to singleplay. Could this be the problem?

Depends on how MIT does exactly transfer the baldur.ini. Can you post your cloned baldur.ini (wrap it in [ codebox ] tags to avoid overflowing)?
IIRC, the movie just shows a bird's eye view of the tower (but I might be wrong).

Here it is: (Had to add .txt, because it didn't accept the .ini file)



(Hope this is what you meant by [ codebox ])

Oh, codebox was if you were going to copy-paste the contents, but NVM that.

Anyway, Install Type is set to 3 like in my baldur.ini (that is, it's still reported as "full install"), and I could play normally on a manually cloned installation. Just to try a couple extra things, is D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\ your cloned install or your 'original' one?

D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\ is the original one, without any mods.

D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA Clone\ is the one modded, witch I'm playing.
This baldur.ini is the one from D:\Black Isle\BGII - SoA Clone\

Oh. In that case, try changing this line (of baldur.ini):

into this:

and see if it works.

Do you have the original va#04sc.bcs?

I just overrode it and forgot to backup.

Here, don't forget to rename it.

Now the game doesn't work. As soon as the game starts, it crashes.

It looks like I won't see this movie after all....

Btw from the last version of UB: