Innate abilities Options

[aigleborgne]

Hello,

Is it possible to properly use the innate abilities of a npc (out of the party of course).

I have a level 8 berserker with 2 enrages in innate slot.
I have that block in my script:

IF
!GlobalTimerNotExpired("ja#cast","LOCALS")
!GlobalTimerNotExpired("ja#berserkerrage","LOCALS")
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobalTimer("ja#cast","LOCALS",6)
DisplayString(Myself,84763) // Contingency Released
SetGlobalTimer("ja#berserkerrage","LOCALS",120)
Spell(Myself,BERSERKER_RAGE)
END

(String only for debug and test)
the block is executed, but the rage doesn't occur (neither was my condition HaveSPell(BERSERKER_RAGE))

It seems that innates can't be manipulate like spells.
I can only use it with forcespell, but then, I can't count spells (uness I use some variables and level tests)

[Vlasák]

Hmm, that's quite strange - innates should be handled via Spell action without problems.

Is the spell assigned to your character really that one which is mapped to BERSERKER_RAGE in spell.ids? Isn't it a spell created by you and renamed to something else?

Just curiosity idea - misplacing with BARBARIAN_RAGE isn't possible?

Forcespell casts the spell even though the character hasn't it memorized so the fact the the casting is working via forcespell tells about our problem almost nothing.

[aigleborgne]

This is how I did my tests:

I edit a level 7 fighter dual to cleric level 8, give him berserker kit, save

load game, clua the fighter, then he joined my party to see the innates.
he got 2 rages, as he should have.

the rage were exactly the right one.

now, I clua again, no party's join this time, I wait.
he first buffed himself with cleric spells, then he tried to enrage, but nothing happen.

[Vlasák]

And can you cast rage with your f/c manually?

Silly idea, but try to use res actions/triggers:

HaveSpellRES("spclXYZ")
SpellRES("spclXYZ",Myself)

Strange... Innates should work as normal spells (spell() action)... lay of hands, bhaal abilities etc. always work this way...

[aigleborgne]

I've tried SpellRes , but it doesn't work either.

I've tried another kit (priest of lathander), not working

in fact, nothing works.

Now, I suspect it's something about tp2 patching.
I've just set the kit, nothing else

I had some problems with wizard slayers, not having cumulative effect (no effect at all in fact)

But when he joined my party, his effects were working. Strange?

I guess kit's abilities are set when the npc joined the party, it would make sense.

[Galactygon]

There might be 2 problems with your script:

1.) Is the spell level of your innate set to 1? Innate abilities don't work unless their levels are set to 1 or 0. Since you are using an existing spell, I don't think this is the problem.
2.) You have to have the spell/innate "memorized" in order for the actions Spell() or SpellRES() to work. You could alternatively use SpellNoDec() or SpellNoDecRES() instead, which don't require you to have the spell/innate "memorized". Check the IESDP for more information. I am guessing this one is your problem, since when giving out kits to NPCs, you have to manually apply give any abilities/immunities to your NPC.

-Galactygon

This post has been edited by Galactygon: Dec 28 2005, 11:15 PM

[aigleborgne]

There might be 2 problems with your script:

1.) Is the spell level of your innate set to 1? Innate abilities don't work unless their levels are set to 1 or 0. Since you are using an existing spell, I don't think this is the problem.
2.) You have to have the spell/innate "memorized" in order for the actions Spell() or SpellRES() to work. You could alternatively use SpellNoDec() or SpellNoDecRES() instead, which don't require you to have the spell/innate "memorized". Check the IESDP for more information. I am guessing this one is your problem, since when giving out kits to NPCs, you have to manually apply give any abilities/immunities to your NPC.

-Galactygon

So that's it: I have to manually apply immunities and abilities. I will try this so
Thanks for help

[Galactygon]

Note that once an NPC joins the party, (s)he is given all the immunities/abilities of the kit, so if you manually give all of the immunities/abilities, the NPC will be given those immunities/abilities twice (once upon joining, and once when you manually adjust their stats).

I don't remember whether the above statement is true or not, so you might need to confirm it.

-Galactygon

This post has been edited by Galactygon: Jan 1 2006, 06:56 PM

[aigleborgne]

Yes, there will get them twice, but I do it for non-joinable NPC