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[Senka]

Keldorn does the "I want to show you to my home" speech when we're out and about, and when I go to government district he brings it up again - It doesn't clash too badly, it just feels odd that my character goes "I DIDNT KNOW YOU LIVED HERE"

I know. You may go to government district in any time. And banter "I want to show you to my home" for those who still didn't start romance Maybe we need to disable his original dialogue in government aria if he already invited PC.

[mystymoo]

So, same problem

Fresh install, played the game all over, get to the revive/wedding part, and it goes back to him rolling back to old dialog.

I'll upload a copy of my save and weidu log but honestly, it's broken, there's nothing I can do on my end to fix this

[mystymoo]

https://www.mediafire.com/?2rzm38phkacr8eb (Quicksave, goes right to wedding part within like... 5 seconds of loading that save)

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This is my 4th try since the 28th going through the game with a brand new install, always get stuck at this point.


I get one of two errors

1) speech about dark pantheon ectect heritage
2) This drow better GTFO the party

Then stuck for eternity

[Senka]

1) speech about dark pantheon ectect heritage
2) This drow better GTFO the party

1. This is due to Vicci - vanilla you see. But if you remove her then other vanilla dialogue is occur.
2. What do you mean?

My friend is in TOB already. He hasn't any problems with walkthrough.

This post has been edited by Senka: Mar 31 2016, 08:47 AM

[mystymoo]

1) speech about dark pantheon ectect heritage
2) This drow better GTFO the party

1. This is due to Vicci - vanilla you see. But if you remove her then other vanilla dialogue is occur.
2. What do you mean?

My friend is in TOB already. He hasn't any problems with walkthrough.

1) he will do dark pantheon speech if I kick vicci out
2) if I keep vicci he does his "this drow has to leave" speech.


I thought of kicking vicci out so that I might bypass it but it didn't work as he just did dark pantheon speech instead

I can't really think what else to do. If you want me to send you any other files from my game folder I can. But this is a fresh install perfectly installed mods. Even a new digitally purchased copy of the game. I've taken the blame for about 15 games now. And it always breaks at this point. I can't really think of anything else I can do on my end

This post has been edited by mystymoo: Mar 31 2016, 10:56 AM

[Senka]

Only Vlad can help you. So wait...

[Senka]

I'd need to ask: are you cheating in your game? Why your party has only 11-12 levels after whole SoA? Why your items are not identified? Because your bug is in your save. Installation and Windows version are not guilty I believe. You haven't Gorion'ring, you haven't a lot of items you had to. So... you lost essential LTs. Your romance is ruined.
Don't cheat.

[mystymoo]

I'd need to ask: are you cheating in your game? Why your party has only 11-12 levels after whole SoA? Why your items are not identified? Because your bug is in your save. Installation and Windows version are not guilty I believe. You haven't Gorion'ring, you haven't a lot of items you had to. So... you lost essential LTs. Your romance is ruined.
Don't cheat.

Only in this one. Only with ctrl+y the others I did every quest. This was my final attempt going through. This time I did a b-line through trying to get through.

I can see if my recycle bin has another save where I played all the way through. This one I will confess to rushing but all the others were honestly played with same issue.

[Senka]

Why you so hurry?

[Senka]

Vlad said: Rest often, particularly after Spellhold. Because variables will be set. There are some LTs after Spellhold. Please, don't cheat.
I think you can install happy-party-option from TweakPack if you want keep Vicci. But don't install others.

[mystymoo]

My partner wanted me to ask, since he has been watching me play.


Could an issue be caused with me walking away from the PC and not pausing?

When the kids start fighting/needing me, I typically walk away from the game, and it leaves the game running (ingame time/real timers). Sometimes I can be leaving the PC for up to an hour parenting before I get back, he was wondering if letting these timers tick on and not pausing when I'm not here and doing anything might be messing things up?


I rest all the time, I was actually surprised I never got anything,


Also is Keldorn supposed to say *anything* during his cult of beholder quest? I find it odd I'll do that entire quest and he doesn't say anything. He only speaks when we leave the dungeon entirely.

[Senka]

Timer is exist but not constantly, not an every event.

When the kids start fighting/needing me, I typically walk away from the game, and it leaves the game running (ingame time/real timers). Sometimes I can be leaving the PC for up to an hour parenting before I get back, he was wondering if letting these timers tick on and not pausing when I'm not here and doing anything might be messing things up?

I don't know. Never do such things, always press space.

I rest all the time, I was actually surprised I never got anything,

In vanilla all NPC are complaining

Also is Keldorn supposed to say *anything* during his cult of beholder quest?

This is not his quest. So - no.

[Vlad]

I need to take a look into your save and variables there. We've never had this kind of problem, but maybe you found something in your particular party configuration.

Regarding Viconia - I cannot help. First, this is original plot and I don't want to change it. Second, it makes a very sense to me that he indeed hates the drow and wants to get rid of her. No matter, she's your favourite character. She's just antagonistic to everything Keldorn represents and believes. This is what I really like in modding. We can make our heroes act as they think proper, not as we want. In fact, I'm now introducing this "independent thinking" and "independent acting" of NPCs in NeJ3. So, I'd advise to leave Viconia to her fate in your play with Keldorn, as he asks you. Really, he tells you that he will leave the group, you say no and join the drow, now what do you expect that he will like you and stay in the group with the drow? It shouldn't work this way.

Other than that, I'll take a look into your save game tonight.

Maybe we need to post a walkthrough.

This post has been edited by Vlad: Apr 1 2016, 07:32 AM

[mystymoo]

I need to take a look into your save and variables there. We've never had this kind of problem, but maybe you found something in your particular party configuration.

Regarding Viconia - I cannot help. First, this is original plot and I don't want to change it. Second, it makes a very sense to me that he indeed hates the drow and wants to get rid of her. No matter, she's your favourite character. She's just antagonistic to everything Keldorn represents and believes. This is what I really like in modding. We can make our heroes act as they think proper, not as we want. In fact, I'm now introducing this "independent thinking" and "independent acting" of NPCs in NeJ3. So, I'd advise to leave Viconia to her fate in your play with Keldorn, as he asks you. Really, he tells you that he will leave the group, you say no and join the drow, now what do you expect that he will like you and stay in the group with the drow? It shouldn't work this way.

Other than that, I'll take a look into your save game tonight.

Maybe we need to post a walkthrough.

I had this theory too, so I am doing a slow playthrough again without her (Going to miss her though )

Walkthroughs are always nice!

[Senka]

Walkthroughs are always nice!

Well... you can always ask!

[mystymoo]

Walkthroughs are always nice!

Well... you can always ask!

I would love a walkthrough (if/when you guys get a spare moment) If only to see if I am missing something blatantly obvious which might be hiccuping my game.



Doing a new playthrough without Viconia, hoping to see if that fixes anything

[Vlad]

Not sure.

Did you find Leona's ring? Keldorn told you to check the loft in the docks area after his conversation with Bylanna. Did you go there?

This post has been edited by Vlad: Apr 1 2016, 07:04 PM

[Vlad]

I found the problem in your game. It was easier than I thought.

You had the last talk with Keldorn in Spellhold after joining Imoen, when PC steps on the stairs:

"Again you sacrificed yourself, this time for the sake of your sister. My friend, I beg you, please rest."

This was your actually last love talk marked by his local variable "VP_LoveTalk" which was set to 25. It is in your save, so no doubts.

In order to move to the next value of "VP_LoveTalk" = 26, you were supposed to come to Brynnlaw after the Spellhold. However, you didn't do that, and the running variable of love talks was stopped. Please come to Brynnlaw area after the Spellhold, and everything will be okay.

Good luck.

[EDIT] And don't keep Viconia/ The problem is that I've introduced the Happy NPCs patch in Baldurdash, so this dialogue about how bad is having Viconia will be popped in once in a while which is incorrect behaviour.

This post has been edited by Vlad: Apr 1 2016, 07:40 PM

[mystymoo]

I found the problem in your game. It was easier than I thought.

You had the last talk with Keldorn in Spellhold after joining Imoen, when PC steps on the stairs:

"Again you sacrificed yourself, this time for the sake of your sister. My friend, I beg you, please rest."

This was your actually last love talk marked by his local variable "VP_LoveTalk" which was set to 25. It is in your save, so no doubts.

In order to move to the next value of "VP_LoveTalk" = 26, you were supposed to come to Brynnlaw after the Spellhold. However, you didn't do that, and the running variable of love talks was stopped. Please come to Brynnlaw area after the Spellhold, and everything will be okay.

Good luck.

[EDIT] And don't keep Viconia/ The problem is that I've introduced the Happy NPCs patch in Baldurdash, so this dialogue about how bad is having Viconia will be popped in once in a while which is incorrect behaviour.

Oh yay! I will do that this round. I never usually take Saemon up on his offer which is why I tend to skip back

[Senka]

This mod has a scenario. If you missed one of the LT, your romance will be ruined. Sorry but to play original plot is necessary ))))

And don't keep Viconia/ The problem is that I've introduced the Happy NPCs patch in Baldurdash, so this dialogue about how bad is having Viconia will be popped in once in a while which is incorrect behaviour.

As I remember in Happy-Party fighting dialogue never pop-up As is in pare Keldorn-Edwin too. This is why I wrote banters for evil characters