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Forum Member Posts: 207 Joined: 5-October 04 ![]() |
I'm currently planning on playing through BGII again, and I was wondering if there is any documentation of the fixes for Baldurdash - WeiDU. I understand that it contains many of fixes from the original Baldurdash, but I also am given to understand that it contains additional fixes and possibly some removal of questionable fixes. Also, is the Baldurdash Game Text update included?
Thanks for any help you can provide. |
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![]() Forum Member Posts: 127 Joined: 28-August 04 From: California ![]() |
Baldurdash v1.61 is for NeJ2 v6.8 and/or TS v6.10. The main replacement for old Baldurdash is BG2 Fixpack
Sorry if I was a bit unclear BG2 Fixpack is an alternative to Baldurdash v1.61 and a replacement to older pre-WeiDU Baldurdash This post has been edited by Chev: Dec 19 2006, 11:01 AM -------------------- I Ride for the King!
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![]() Master of energies ![]() Council Member Posts: 3315 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Magyarország ![]() |
BD-WeiDU 1.61 works without NEJ2/TS as well. You can install it as the fixpack for your game.
You can get it from Vlad's BWL account (see the relevant thread), and it displays the readme in the installation window, after you've clicked the first "Next" button. BG2 Fixpack is rather an alternative, not a replacement. It applies lots of changes that are called fixes by the authors, but actually they are too subjective and/or too arbitrary, and most of them aren't optional. Edit: Ambigious expression ("main fixpack") changed. Thanks berelinde! This post has been edited by Baronius: Dec 19 2006, 11:57 AM -------------------- Mental harmony dispels the darkness.
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![]() Forum Member Posts: 92 Joined: 22-July 06 ![]() |
I am not making any comments regarding fixpack preference, since opinions are very personal things, and vary with the owner.
I would like to make the comment that under no circumstances should one attempt to install more than one fixpack. Doing so will create bugs in your game. I speak from personal experience. If you prefer BG2 fixpack, use that exclusively. If you prefer Baldurdash-WeiDU, use that exclusively. If you want to install two mods and each lists a different one as a prerequisite, the mods are incompatible. |
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Forum Member Posts: 207 Joined: 5-October 04 ![]() |
BD-WeiDU 1.61 works without NEJ2/TS as well. You can install it as the fixpack for your game. You can get it from Vlad's BWL account (see the relevant thread), and it displays the readme in the installation window, after you've clicked the first "Next" button. BG2 Fixpack is rather an alternative, not a replacement. It applies lots of changes that are called fixes by the authors, but actually they are too subjective and/or too arbitrary, and most of them aren't optional. Edit: Ambigious expression ("main fixpack") changed. Thanks berelinde! I was hoping I could find some documentation of the fixes that doesn't involve me downloading the mod. Anyone have some information? |
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![]() ![]() Mod Developer Posts: 1399 Joined: 19-April 05 ![]() |
Yes, Caedwyr, the text update is included.
README ********************************************************************* *** *** Upcoming Version 1.62 *** ********************************************************************* - RING29 fixed ********************************************************************* *** *** Version 1.61 *** ********************************************************************* - Miscellaneous fixes - NoCD patch (optional) ********************************************************************* *** *** Version 1.6 *** ********************************************************************* - Miscellaneous fixes and optional components - Full compatibility with TS and NeJ2 Credits to James Shumacher, Goeran Rimen, aVENGER and Extremist for their bugfixes, which were included in this cummulative pack. Thanks to Idobek for his KIT.IDS. ********************************************************************* *** *** Version 1.5 *** ********************************************************************* - WeiDU v185; - German translation; - patch for SPWI608, SPWI322, SPWI513, SPWI514, SPWI903, SPWISH26, SPWISH38.SPL: description says they shouldn't be affected by target's resistance, so all effects set to Not Dispell/Bypass Resistance(0); - patch for SPWI423.SPL: summoning spell should bypass resistance; - patch for DEVAHEAL, SENSPIHE, SPPR317, SPIN201, SPPR404, SPIN679, SPIN699, SPPR607.SPL - healing spells, they should bypass resistance; - patch for SPWI103: lvl 6 Pause caster effect had invalid Dispell/Not bypass - must bypass resistance; - patch for SPWI408, SPWI512 - all efefcts should be Dispell/Bypass res.; - MISC2A: carried icon; - UNDHIT2.EFF: THAC0 bonus vs Undead - must be 2 there, not 3; - RING97.ITM : all effects must bypass resistance; - SPCL122 SPCL131 SPCL133 SPCL141 SPCL142 SPCL143 SPCL151 SPCL153 SPCL154 SPCL221 SPCL233b SPCL234 SPCL235 SPCL241 SPCL242 SPCL331 SPCL332 SPCL341 SPCL351 SPCL417 SPCL421 SPCL441 SPCL541 SPCL812 SPCL813 SPCL814 SPCL816 SPCL817 SPCL818 SPCL819 SPCL821 SPCL924 SPCL925 SPCL926 SPCL927 SPCL931 SPCL932 SPCL933 SPCL934 SPCL915 SPCL920 SPCL928 SPCL929 SPCL930 : as for kit's AL_ spell all effects must bypass resistance; - SPCL611 SPCL612 SPCL613 SPCL621 SPCL632 SPCL633 SPCL634 SPCL643 SPCL644 SPIN107 and many many others : as shapeshifting spells, effects must bypass resistance; - SPCL144 SPCL152 SPCL321 SPCL423 SPCL900 SPCL913 SPCL914 SPCL916 SPCL917 SPCL918 SPCL919 SPCL921 SPCL922 : as spec. abil. combat modifiers, effects must bypass resistance; - SPCL642.SPL: as AVENGER kit description says STR and CON bonuses should be -2, not 0 ![]() - SPWI505.SPL: all effects must have the same flags (Dispell/Bypass); - SPWI425.SPL: as for a summoning spell, effects must bypass resistance; - patch for SPPR505, SPPR505D, SPCL232, SPCL232D, SPCL732, SPIN633, SPIN684, SPPR950, SPWI609, SPWI609D.SPL : description says they shouldn't be affected by target's resistance, so all effects set to Dispell/Bypass Resistance(3); ********************************************************************* *** *** Version 1.2 *** ********************************************************************* 13-04-2005 - invalid Dead("...") triggers in 164 ToB scripts fixed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dozens of incorrect resources references fixed (BAM, ITM, CRE etc.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BG1 Baldurdash fixes implemented for BGT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) APPRENTI.BCS - there was an invalid VVC reference: CreateVisualEffectObject("ANCALL",Myself) Must be CreateVisualEffectObject("AMCALL",Myself). 2) AR2200.BCS - there was a reference to nonexisting creature "jeloli01". Changed to "jelgre01". 3) AR3020.BCS - incorrect parameters: ActionOverride("SHUPOL01",ChangeAIScript("one",OVERRIDE)) ActionOverride("SHUGAR01",ChangeAIScript("one",OVERRIDE)) ActionOverride("SHUGFG01",ChangeAIScript("one",OVERRIDE)) ActionOverride("SHUGMG01",ChangeAIScript("one",OVERRIDE)) ActionOverride("SHUGPR01",ChangeAIScript("one",OVERRIDE)) Must be: ChangeAIScript("",OVERRIDE) 4) AR4000.BCS - item name typo: was "DWCSW1H01" instead of "DWSW1H01". 5) BHCRYPT.BCS - local var typo for "LOCALCastHorror" fixed: Global("CastHorror","LOCALS",0) & SetGlobal("CastHorror","LOCALS",1). 6) CAULDRON.BCS - sound name typo: was "EFF_38" instead of "EFF_M38". 7) CUT01.BCS and CUTD1.BCS - SetDialog("") for Imoen. 8) CUT215A.BCS - used effect name fix: "SPDIMNDR" instead of old "SPDOOR". 9) CUT218B.BCS - removed nonexisting effects usage: CreateVisualEffectObject("SPIMPPT",Player1). 10) CUT31Q.BCS - reference to unexisting creature "bdcoun04" removed. 11) CUT49E.BCS - sound name typo fixed: was "ISC_03A" instead of "MISC_03A" (for BGT only). 12) CUT57C.BCS - visual effect name typo fixed: was "SPOWWRD" instead of "SPPOWWRD". 13) DDGUARD7.BCS - typo fixed: CreateVisualEffectObject("yself","SPFLESHS") to CreateVisualEffectObject("SPFLESHS","DDGUARD7"). 14) FINSOL04.BCS - effect name typo fixed: was "SPPLOYMP" instead of "SPPOLYMP". 15) IDIOT01.BCS - OR() fixed. 30 triggers - not 31. 16) KILLGOOD.BCS - script name typo fixed: was "DEATHK" instead of "DEATHKNI" (?). 17) PIPE04.BCS - wrong sound name fixed: was "MISC_02A" instead of "MISC_01A" (for BGT only). 18) PPSHAD01-PPSHAD06.BCS - wrong sound name fixed: was "MISC_15A,B" instead of "MISC_03A,B" (for BGT only). 19) RUFPAL.BCS - global var typo fixed: Global("PitFight","AR0406",3). 20) SPWNRAK.BCS - incorrect creature reference: was "dogre01" instead of "ogre01". 21) VICG, VICG1.BCS - OR() fixed. 2 triggers - not 4. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 22) AATAQAH.DLG - 1 statement fixed for trigger 25: Name("Imoen",LastTalkedToBy). 23) AERIE.DLG - fixed: StartDialogueNoSet() to StartDialogueNoSet([ANYONE]). 24) "OUTSIDE" changed to "OUTDOOR". This makes "happy" AERIEJ, BANOMEN, MINSCJ, YOSHJ.DLG. 25) BANOMEN.DLG - NEUTRAL_UPPER typo fixed. 26) AMMAN02.DLG - was ApplySpell("runrun",Myself), changed to ApplySpellRES("runrun",Myself) 27) BAERIE.DLG - 2 fixes for MoveGlobal("AR0607","Aerie",[1034.1034]) - extra parameters removed. 28) A LOADS of other dialogs typos are fixed (too many for detailed descriptions ![]() Total number of various fixes - ~200. ********************************************************************* *** *** Version 1.1 *** ********************************************************************* - custom fixes, not included in the original Baldurdash. 'Misc' category set for several books (now it's possible to use them from the quickitem slots): BOOK05.ITM, BOOK07.ITM, BOOK08.ITM 'Books' category set for several books (instead of 'Misc'): BOOK32.ITM, BOOK94.ITM, BOOK95.ITM, BOOK96.ITM They can't be put to a quickitem slot. Items Category fixed for many weapons: BOW07.ITM - Proficiency - Long Bow (was Short Bow) BRUENAXE.ITM - Proficiency - Axe (was 0) CHEVIL10.ITM - Category : Great Swords instead of Short Swords DAGG10.ITM - Category : Daggers instead of Misc Items usability and proficience fixes: MISC5T.ITM - Proficiency - quarterstaff MISC72.ITM, MISC73.ITM, MISC9Q.ITM, MISC9W.ITM, PLAT05.ITM, POTN56.ITM, RING08.ITM, RING22.ITM, RING35.ITM, RING36.ITM, RING40.ITM, RODS01.ITM, RODS04.ITM, RODS05.ITM, RODS06.ITM, SENDAI.ITM, WA2RING.ITM - usability fixes - detectable spells compatibility implemented (BP compatible) - BGT compatibility for texts ********************************************************************* *** *** Version 1.0 *** ********************************************************************* Original Baldurdash fixes implemented (see BG2ToBFixPack112ReadMe.txt for more details). |
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Forum Member Posts: 207 Joined: 5-October 04 ![]() |
Thanks
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Forum Member Posts: 146 Joined: 1-November 06 From: Saint-Petersburg, Russia ![]() |
QUOTE - Miscellaneous fixes and optional components - Full compatibility with TS and NeJ2 I suppose no one is going to enlist them, right? Gaah! Why must I always do everything by myself? Why do fixers in hell so love to provide fixes without explanation? "Don't ask, that's for your good..." They might indeed believe that it's good for player but what if player thinks otherwise? Especially since some fixes are really doubtful, like potion/spell "free action" providing immunity to stun. Not sure if that was baldurdash's one but still... So no one is willing to save me a time and say what those misc fixes are? This post has been edited by Ardanis: Dec 24 2006, 11:45 AM -------------------- aka GeN1e
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![]() Forum Member Posts: 80 Joined: 18-August 06 ![]() |
Especially since some fixes are really doubtful, like potion/spell "free action" providing immunity to stun. And what's wrong with that, I wonder? Descriptions quite clearly say: Ring of Free Action: The wearer is immune to everything, magical and otherwise, that affects mobility in any way Potion of Freedom: The drinker becomes completely immune to any effects which hinder action or movement, whether magical in origin or not. Free Action Spell: While under the effects of this spell, the recipient becomes immune to anything that limits his or her movement You won't argue with the fact that "Stun" does in effect limit movement, will you? This post has been edited by pro5: Dec 24 2006, 12:41 PM |
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Forum Member Posts: 146 Joined: 1-November 06 From: Saint-Petersburg, Russia ![]() |
That could be considered from different points. Mine is that stun paralyses mind rather than body; body is free though can't move without mind. I know that it's a bit complex for game engine but that's my point.
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![]() Forum Member Posts: 92 Joined: 22-July 06 ![]() |
One could also argue that movement is the result of CNS activity directing voluntary muscles to contract. Stun definitely puts a halt to that.
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![]() Master of energies ![]() Council Member Posts: 3315 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Magyarország ![]() |
None of the descriptions say anything about the source (mental, physical, magical...) of what causes the inability of movement, so this can be considered as a rational change, a fix.
-------------------- Mental harmony dispels the darkness.
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Forum Member Posts: 146 Joined: 1-November 06 From: Saint-Petersburg, Russia ![]() |
Ughh, that was only an example of why I don't like fixing all around.
I just can't hope that Vlad will tell me something about those fixes. So I've tried to explain my point in hope that someone will understand me and enlighten about BD161 (if he have a knowledge). If not then... the world is a cruel thing, what else can be said? And what "compatibility with TS, NEJ2" means? *Sighs* Don't mind me too much, I think I'll find answers. I just DO HATE unexplained things. *Sighs again* This post has been edited by Ardanis: Dec 24 2006, 05:00 PM -------------------- aka GeN1e
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Forum Member Posts: 19 Joined: 23-March 06 ![]() |
Well, (not trying to be a jerk here, I am just commenting
![]() CODE X#BG1NPC.tp2 line 1477 change: C_E ~DELORME.CRE~ updated to C_E_R G ~^[_,d]elorme\.cre$~ for Tutu compatibility X#BG1NPC.D line 5724 change: InParty("delorm") repaired to InParty("delorme") And of course the massive amount of time involved in listing all of these cuts into codefixing, in order to provide a list that most folks would not understand (and those that do understand could help contribute. So... if a person who is sufficiently interested (that's you, Ardanis ![]() the sufficiently motivated person could then provide them to the modder in order to put in the ReadMe ![]() |
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Forum Member Posts: 24 Joined: 31-August 06 ![]() |
And what's wrong with that, I wonder? Descriptions quite clearly say: Ring of Free Action: The wearer is immune to everything, magical and otherwise, that affects mobility in any way Potion of Freedom: The drinker becomes completely immune to any effects which hinder action or movement, whether magical in origin or not. Free Action Spell: While under the effects of this spell, the recipient becomes immune to anything that limits his or her movement You won't argue with the fact that "Stun" does in effect limit movement, will you? well.. you know, death also limits movement. -------------------- Unique Artifacts mod for BG2ToB or BGT.
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