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Sergio1992
post Sep 30 2019, 03:46 PM
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Install Component 3 [Dual-Class Erevain NPC for NeJ3 (by Bill and Vlad)]? [N]ot Install

Do not install it. It's not complete.

For some strange reason I didn't tongue.gif. Luckily...

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// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]
~DDRAWFIX/DDRAWFIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // DDrawFix -> Force DirectDraw Emulation: v1.0
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #0 // MY COMPILATION
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Monk Class (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #2 // "Firewalker" Shar-Teel (custom kit and continuous character)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #3 // Leina - New Bard NPC Character and Quest (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #4 // Priest of Sylvanus (Druid) Kit and Improved Character Jaheira (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #5 // New Jaheira Portrait (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Anti-Dragon Items and Powerful Swords (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Twisted Rune Quest (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #8 // Improved Copper Coronet (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #9 // Improved Shadows and Shadow Dragon (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Dak'kon's Blade (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #11 // Improved Nymph (Woodland Being) Script (by Goeran Rimen)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #12 // Dual Wielding Fix for Rogues (by aVENGER)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #13 // Cromwell in Brynnlaw and Item Upgrade (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #14 // Improved Character Anomen - Stats and Items (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #15 // Improved Character Nalia - Stats and Items (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #16 // Improved Character Jan Jansen (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #17 // Improved Character Aerie - Wildwanderer of Baervan (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #18 // Improved Character Edwin - Red Wizard (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #19 // Improved Character Viconia - Darkcloak of Shar (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #20 // Continuous and Custom Kit Imoen (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #21 // Enhanced Encounter with Illasera in ToB (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #22 // Enhanced Encounter with Gromnir in ToB (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #23 // Enhanced Encounter with Yaga Shura in ToB (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #24 // Enhanced Encounter with Abazigal in ToB (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #30 // Items Upgrade (by Vlad)
~SETUP-VCV21.TP2~ #0 #31 // Textupdatepack -> Baldurdash English Text Update Pack for ToB, v1.4 WeiDU (by Kevin Dorner)
~SETUP-NEJ3V71.TP2~ #0 #0 // Never Ending Journey Third Edition v7.1
~SETUP-NEJ3V71.TP2~ #0 #1 // Frostbite Animation (Turns a big wyvern into the frost wyvern. You may install and uninstall this component at any moment in the game.)
~SETUP-NEJ3V71.TP2~ #0 #2 // Areas & Sounds (This component is required to play NeJ2!)
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Vlad
post Sep 30 2019, 04:31 PM
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Sergio, please disconnect from BWP. It won't help you much to read their installation guide. Just follow my proposed installation, please.
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post Oct 5 2019, 04:18 PM
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Okay I started NeJ.

1) I've got a party made of myself, Minsc, Jaheira, Imoen, Shar-teel and Gar. But it seems that Accalia and Hhtogar can join me. What am I supposed to do... I mean, should I drop every character but Imoen?

2) I've seen a few interactions from Imoen, Jaheira and Sharteel and these seems to be on point. But only one interaction from Minsc (the one where he tells the snow reminds him of Rashemen). I get that you're supposed to drop him for Hrothgar?

3) Minsc doesn't have a custom kit, am I wrong? His usefulness seems kinda limited compared to the others.

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post Oct 5 2019, 06:53 PM
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1. This is no necessary to pick Accallia. You must have Hrothgar.
2. Do you want to leave him in past? This is not honest ) Let him go to inn from the very beginning.
3. His stats and skills just upgraded.
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post Oct 6 2019, 08:19 AM
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1) Got it.
2-3) I get it. My character wouldn't like to leave Minsc in the past but.... it's not like I have many chances. I brought with myself 4 people (so the party is made of me, Jaheira, Imoen, Minsc, Sharteel). The sixth slot is now occupied by Gar and I may drop him for Hrothgar.

4) I take that probably rather than focusing on doing all at once, I should just be "resigned" that I'll have to play it again (not that I mind for now, given that from the little I've seen I like it).

5) By the way, there is good loot in the houses, but I didn't steal it - because I'm good.

6) Will Hrothgar behave toward charname differently if it's a she?

7) I forgot to choose female and now I'm not exactly sure if I could swap his sex during the gameplay to do Keldorn romance.

8) This one is for Vlad: Vlad, are there evil options in Nej? Evil as profitable options, not stupid evil options tongue.gif

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post Oct 6 2019, 12:42 PM
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2. Can you start from the very beginning?
5. Never steal too )))
6. No
7. I believe yes. This simple: change sex and check KeldornMatch in Global ) Before meeting Keldorn of course
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post Oct 6 2019, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Senka @ Oct 6 2019, 12:42 PM) *
2. Can you start from the very beginning?
5. Never steal too )))
6. No
7. I believe yes. This simple: change sex and check KeldornMatch in Global ) Before meeting Keldorn of course

2. I noticed that you can't drop people in Easthaven. So I basically CTRL+y Minsc then dropped him.

Or maybe I should just drop Gar and be done with it. The problem is that I'm not sure which one is the right approach: enter Nej without any other npc in the party or just get two\three of them according to what you're supposed to have.

Beside, I'm good but I still took Sharteel in my team. I think I should have left her behind.
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:28 PM
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Hi Sergio,

This is true role-playing, so you decide which characters and party to compile and take with you. smile.gif))

To help you with planning:

Minsc-Boo-Sime have a common plot.

Accalia falls for Hrothgar, but she won't follow you back in time.

Hrothgar is the main character, the NeJ is about him, so you definitely need him in the group. Dropping him will stop all the NeJ quests and story.

Dar has a long and interesting quest when you come back in time. He is also a good and formidable character. Senka likes him.

Sharteel has a long and interesting quest when you come back in time. She has a lot of interjections, particularly when she does not like your decisions. She is evil and probably the best fighter in the game. You can dual her to thief though. Keldorn will probably attack her when she really bothers him.

You cannot really drop Imoen, she is your sister, right?

Jaheira is great with a lot of interjections, but Senka doesn't like her.

Also, when you come back in time, you'll have Melora, Taffic and romancable Leina - all with their own big quests.

We have played this game many times and tried different combinations, so now it's up to you to decide about your own role-playing. smile.gif

And there are always evil options in the RPG such as BG.

For romancing Keldorn, you need to start as a smart and charming lady with a good nature and not to associate yourself with thieves.

Good luck.
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post Oct 6 2019, 04:32 PM
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For TS - you'll need a pair of Kachiko-Yoshimo, of course.
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:49 PM
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Thanks a lot Vlad. There is really a ton of content: that's great. From the little I’ve seen, the dialogues by the characters are on point and I'm looking forward to playing.

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post Oct 6 2019, 07:00 PM
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Dar has a long and interesting quest when you come back in time. He is also a good and formidable character. Senka likes him.
His banters with Keldorn is really brilliant smile.gif
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aheira is great with a lot of interjections, but Senka doesn't like her.

Not true smile.gif I like her very much but druid-class is a piece of shit.

Good luck Sergio!
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post Oct 7 2019, 08:53 PM
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Thanks Senka.
Some notes....

My current party is made of myself, Gar, Accalia, Hrothgar, Imoen. Damn the mod is pretty hard. I think I've done wrong by going multi fighter/mage, I'm almost useless. If I had a barbarian charname in these lands I would crush many enemies with my indomitable rage.

1) Did you face the "issue" that sometimes the bone cleaver axe will say "undead destroyed" but the undead will still be alive without no issue? Could it be related to the weapon or is it an engine quirk?

2) I read that in Icewind Dale the priestess of Auril won’t spawn before Knesselack asks you to kill her. Are these informations correct? If they are correct, you did a great thing by making it possibile to kill the priestess a soon as you wish to do so.

3) Is the full plate +2 supposed to cost only “30 gp”?

4) I like the possibilities you have when answering to Hrothgar. Most of the times I can see myself actually choosing another answer if I was playing a different charname. That’s neat. I admit I’m revealing him everything and I’m still wondering when he will ask about my heritage.

5) The party felt pretty silent until we reached the second level of the black wolf temple. In fact for a brief moment I regretted that I took Accalia with myself, only to see in 60 seconds a banter between her and Hrothgar. And also with Gar.

6) I reached Dragon Eye. Right now I’m kinda broke... there is so much stuff I would like to buy but I don’t have the money to do so. Beside, I’m thinking to actually give wisdom and int tomes to someone else rather than my charname, only to stop by thinking that if I have to romance Keldorn I need all I can get.
I know I could check the readme with spoilers, but I don’t feel like doing so.

7) Would you be interested if I sent you a link/or publish here/ some images with “text errors”? I’ve found only three and that’s a really huge achievement considering that I usually find many in huge content mods.

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post Oct 8 2019, 05:45 AM
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My current party is made of myself, Gar, Accalia, Hrothgar, Imoen. Damn the mod is pretty hard. I think I've done wrong by going multi fighter/mage, I'm almost useless. If I had a barbarian charname in these lands I would crush many enemies with my indomitable rage.

I said you: use dual wink.gif Actually you don't need mage in first part. And Shar and Hrothgar is really good fighters. Dar too.
And he is not Gar. He is Dar!
1. Don't understand. Bone clever kills undead perfectly
2. No. And in IWD too. You need to speak with her in Kuldahar inn.
3. Vanilla, hahaha
5. A lot of banters start when you go to sleep. Do it often.
6. As I remember Vlad removed any stats requirement but I strongly doubt wisdom and int below 10 is a option. Alignment and race are checked. But... you always can roll sufficient stats. I prefer to keep stats books for casters who stay with me.
7. Sent it to Vlad please.
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post Oct 8 2019, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE(Senka @ Oct 8 2019, 05:45 AM) *
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My current party is made of myself, Gar, Accalia, Hrothgar, Imoen. Damn the mod is pretty hard. I think I've done wrong by going multi fighter/mage, I'm almost useless. If I had a barbarian charname in these lands I would crush many enemies with my indomitable rage.

I said you: use dual wink.gif Actually you don't need mage in first part. And Shar and Hrothgar is really good fighters. Dar too.
And he is not Gar. He is Dar!
1. Don't understand. Bone clever kills undead perfectly
2. No. And in IWD too. You need to speak with her in Kuldahar inn.
3. Vanilla, hahaha
5. A lot of banters start when you go to sleep. Do it often.
6. As I remember Vlad removed any stats requirement but I strongly doubt wisdom and int below 10 is a option. Alignment and race are checked. But... you always can roll sufficient stats. I prefer to keep stats books for casters who stay with me.
7. Sent it to Vlad please.

AHAH I've got to make errors rolleyes.gif concerning dual or not.
1. In my game it doesn't. I faced this weirdness only three times, but all in all, the issue is there.
2. Got it.
3. Okay
5. Okay
6. Okay
7. Will do.

New questions:
1) I've found an ancient armor. Should I take it with me?
2) I've found wine inside Dragon's eye. Should I take it with me?
3) Will I be able to use Myrkul's simbol to upgrade stuff or not ?

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post Oct 8 2019, 06:28 PM
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As Senka said, to get most of the banters, you need to rest. You'll sure need to rest to heal the party. smile.gif

I use all tomes on myself, because I always rotate NPCs in the group.

You won't need an ancient armor. You'll need a Symbol of Myrkul to open a tomb in the quest. After the Vale of Shadows, you can sell it to the antiquarian merchant in Kuldahar.
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post Oct 8 2019, 06:42 PM
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I think I may be finishing NEJ 1

SPOILER!
I've liked all of it, but there is a but... when you are in the astrolabe's room, you have two choices:
- either you ask the lich info about the astrolabe and its possibility to bring you to the past
- or you can say that you wish to take the portal to Kuldahar.

Choosing the first option will make your companions Dar and Hrothgar mention Kuldahar, but I've never said about going through that portal.

See here: https://imgur.com/a/5inCRCI


2) me being a bit paranoic about the items is due to the fact that there is an item upgrade mod tongue.gif included in Nej

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post Oct 8 2019, 06:54 PM
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I've added the option of Kuldahar, so you could restock before stepping through a portal and complete side quests (to get a very nice cloak from Orrick for bringing him the book he asked, for example). My advise is to go back to Kuldahar.

You're fast, by the way. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Vlad @ Oct 8 2019, 06:54 PM) *
I've added the option of Kuldahar, so you could restock before stepping through a portal and complete side quests (to get the great Robe of Orrick, for example). My advise is to go back to Kuldahar.

You're fast, by the way. smile.gif

1) You mean that there is also an option to go through the astrolabe's portal? Because choosing that option has no effect. And yes, I liked the option to go back to Kuldahar tongue.gif
2) By the way, I didn't get the robe aftering delivering the book to Orrick; I got "mithran's cloak"
3) After Irenicus got Imoen, these are the dialogues I've got: https://imgur.com/a/cQ8JHe6 - why is she referring to the old druid? To whom is she referring to?
4) I will save all the text errors in a folder, so you can check them whenever you want if you will ever release a later-than-final version tongue.gif

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post Oct 8 2019, 08:48 PM
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2. This is cloak of course
3. Arundel. But this is smtg wrong. This dialogue takes place before you go to the Severed Hand. I think this is due to you hadn't Shar early.
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post Oct 8 2019, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(Senka @ Oct 8 2019, 08:48 PM) *
2. This is cloak of course
3. Arundel. But this is smtg wrong. This dialogue takes place before you go to the Severed Hand. I think this is due to you hadn't Shar early.


3. I've got a savegame if Vlad wants to test. And yes, I didn't have Sharteel before wink.gif

I've been doing Firkraag's quest with sharteel and I'm enjoying it! biggrin.gif

Edit: I payed Esmond 5k gold, but I'm not getting any item. Is this "normal"? I got a savegame right before entering the cavern in Umar Hills where he is hiding.
SPOILER!
Beside, if he uses the portal to flee, have I lost the items or not? If not, where should I go to find them?


Edit 2: is there anywhere where can I read who contributed to what? For example, who wrote Sharteel, who wrote Dar and so on.

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