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Aro
post Jul 31 2009, 03:36 PM
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Hi all.

I want some help with these guys in the tavern at the Docks. They are very tough. My party is:

Vagrant PC with proficiency in clubs and uses the +3 acid one from Trademeet
Valygar
Anomen
Jan Jansen
Edwin

Jan and Edwin can cast only 5 lvl spells and less.

That mage casts Remove Magic and emotion and abi-dalzim, and my characters die very quickly. The captain I cannot kill, he's scary. Help! My fighters deal very small damage to him.

I want another party member, but all NPCs are so weak. Any recommendation?

And where to find a permanency scroll or manual of elaboration or scroll of memory? I want a scroll for the club +4. It costs 50 000, is it worth it?

What weapons to buy?
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Aro
post Aug 1 2009, 10:01 AM
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Thank you critto.

My mages leveled to 12 and I set difficulty to easy and killed the pirates, those adventurers in the promenade and Lilalcor monsters and slavers in slums.

I read some spoilers here and also googled Improved Anvil. I found tons of spoilers on biowares forum and got some more permanency scrolls.
Maybe I should start with a different party? The vagrant looks powerful later on, but how about this:

fighter-illusionist gnome leader with wisdom 18
fighter-cleric-mage or only cleric-illusionist gnome - advice please
sorcerer with wisdom 18 because Imoen is too far away
a bard - maybe Haer'dalis? or custom

I read that arcane magic is very important and with smaller party they will level up quicker and I won't decrease difficulty with this party.
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post Sep 2 2009, 06:20 AM
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QUOTE(Aro @ Aug 1 2009, 10:01 AM) *
Thank you critto.

My mages leveled to 12 and I set difficulty to easy and killed the pirates, those adventurers in the promenade and Lilalcor monsters and slavers in slums.

I read some spoilers here and also googled Improved Anvil. I found tons of spoilers on biowares forum and got some more permanency scrolls.
Maybe I should start with a different party? The vagrant looks powerful later on, but how about this:

fighter-illusionist gnome leader with wisdom 18
fighter-cleric-mage or only cleric-illusionist gnome - advice please
sorcerer with wisdom 18 because Imoen is too far away
a bard - maybe Haer'dalis? or custom

I read that arcane magic is very important and with smaller party they will level up quicker and I won't decrease difficulty with this party.


Automatic saving throw pretty much ruins this encounter.

Also, how is Imoen too far away? You don't need 18 wisdom until your mage/sorcerer hits level 18 anyways, and Imoen joins around level 14.

Gnomes can only roll 17 wisdom, but that doesn't matter either since a multi class wont get wish for a long long time regardless. By then you can use +1 wis +1 cha Bhaal's tear, or you can use mad lum's machine.

Also, level 12 mage is still very early in the game, and pirates are doable on core if you have a balanced party. You seem to be asking a wide array of questions that are relevant to many parts of the game you haven't even reached yet. I think you'd have a much easier time learning everything from personal experience if you made a more powerful party, for example the party Sikret used in his v5 thread, except with better stats. It will still be challenging.

I think Sikret said sliding the bar to easy is not a cheat, but imo it ruins alot of encounters. They're not just slightly easier, they become NOTHING like the way they were originally.

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Aro   The fight with pirates   Jul 31 2009, 03:36 PM
critto   Hi, Aro! What are your party levels are? IF y...   Jul 31 2009, 05:05 PM
Aro   Gee thanx. I did some pickpocketing with Jan and ...   Jul 31 2009, 06:51 PM
Vuki   The quest order I saw, and it is good and I follow...   Aug 1 2009, 09:47 AM
critto   Well, the fights are tough but with some thinking ...   Aug 1 2009, 08:57 AM
Aro   Thank you critto. My mages leveled to 12 and I se...   Aug 1 2009, 10:01 AM
Raven   I read some spoilers here and also googled Improve...   Aug 1 2009, 10:53 AM
Aro   I think you should stick to your original party (o...   Aug 1 2009, 01:17 PM
Sikret   I found tons of spoilers on biowares forum I real...   Aug 1 2009, 11:10 AM
darkjeshush   Thank you critto. My mages leveled to 12 and I se...   Sep 2 2009, 06:20 AM
critto   This two guys are great for IA, but they are not e...   Aug 1 2009, 02:50 PM
Aro   I don't know about another warrior in this par...   Aug 1 2009, 03:09 PM
critto   Your characters will level up just fine. One of th...   Aug 1 2009, 04:08 PM
Aro   Yeah I know about those competent mages. Wanted to...   Aug 1 2009, 04:30 PM
Vuki   About those mages you mentioned - I have not met e...   Aug 1 2009, 05:04 PM
critto   Of course, it will. But do expect enemy mages to t...   Aug 1 2009, 05:00 PM
Aro   Thanks. I asked about those expensive powerful upg...   Aug 1 2009, 05:20 PM
critto   Sorry, I can't seem to find it on a quick sear...   Aug 1 2009, 06:42 PM
Raven   Sorry, I can't seem to find it on a quick sear...   Aug 1 2009, 07:17 PM
critto   Oh, sorry, my bad. I've mistaken it with +4 r...   Aug 1 2009, 07:57 PM
Aro   Thank you critto for this topic. The gold for repu...   Aug 1 2009, 08:19 PM
Raven   Thank you critto for this topic. The gold for repu...   Aug 1 2009, 08:40 PM
Sikret   You shouldn't plan your strategy around forgin...   Aug 1 2009, 09:43 PM
Kerkes   I recommend Core difficulty, regardless of your pl...   Sep 3 2009, 12:21 PM


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