Demon Lord vs Judgement Day (Spoilers) Options

[rbeverjr]

I just installed IA at the end of SoA. It's been nice for the most part. Irenicus at the Tree seemed to be Unbreechable - that's not fair. I did kill him with Dragon's Breath, no characters died, and no reload, but still. Irenicus in hell was a nice improvement over the stock game without being totally overboard like Tactics Improved Irenicus. I then went through Saradush and Watcher's Keep (through level 4). I have no major complaints there either. The game has become more challenging. However, when I received Angurvadal and left the Watcher's Keep to face the demon lord (upper right area at Watcher's Keep's exterior), I was VERY disappointed.

This is the cheesiest encounter that I've ever had the misfortune to see. Please spoil me. How do you defeat this crew? Specifically, I am talking about the demon lord and his 2 buddies.

As near as I can tell, the demon lord is immune to high level traps as well as time stop. If you normally do 30 HP damage/strike, you may do 8 - provided that you can strip his protections. A level 30 inquisitor's dispel magic (that'd be level 60 spell power) wasn't keeping things under control - I'm not sure it was working at all! Does everyone always have immunity to abjuration and divination (vs True Seeing)? Both his buddies wield Soul Reavers. I started with a -20 THACO or so and ended up with a +50 THACO or so. Isn't that sweet... I've tried many things and none seemed to work. He seems to have an inexhaustible spell supply. So, I doubt hit and come back later cheese would help. Mord's swords are only distractions. Planetars and elementals are lunch. Of course, dragon's breath is useless. So, what's the solution?

I hope the author tones this encounter down a lot.... If he thinks the weapon you may get some day from this encounter is too powerful - then dump the weapon. As it is, this encounter is STUPIDLY difficult. (Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's mine!)

I have been playing DnD from the first version until the latest. I am also a very experienced BG2 player. I generally/usually avoid using spells and tactics that would not be allowed/couldn't succeed while a human judge was running a DnD 3.5 table. That alone makes the game MUCH, MUCH harder. But for the game's replay value, I like new mods. Unfortunately, some tactical mods go far overboard, such as this encounter and Tactics Improved Irenicus (to name 2). Some people like tactical puzzles, but I play for enjoyment when I'm really too tired to solve some tough puzzles. If I have to reload more than 3 times on Core difficulty to beat and encounter, I consider it too much. Tactics Pontifex is one I had to reload more than 3x to succeed with all my team intact; although, I did luck out and kill him in 2 rounds on Insane once. I say this only to indicate that I am an experienced player to hopefully convince the author that this encounter is a little too difficult for the general player population.

I'm sure there's something my tired brain overlooked. So, please tell me how to defeat these guys. If someone can't help me, then this encounter will receive the ultimate rebuff, CTRL-Y the baddies and leave the treasure on the ground except for the component.

[darkjeshush]

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I am getting owned too, HALP MEH! The first fight with demon + 2 lords is easy enough fully buffed, fully summoned, but second part you cant buff or summon. Does anybody know which enemies spawn what? or if those marileth+lord+elemental golem spawns are limited? My best shot so far was to kill the first lord fast, then triple remove magic to down a noble marileth hoping and praying those had similar functionality to master assassins and coordinators. But after they died, the spawns kept on coming. Within 15 more rounds or so, the screen was filled with enemies. So I guess the prince himself is the focal spawn point, like a grandfather assassin on crack.

I then tried to go 5-alpha on the prince, and he is so hard to hit (with massive regen too I think), and that turned out to be epic fail as well. Got him to barely injured and screen was full of spawns. I sit one greater resto guy somewhere off in the distance summoning fodder and sending them in one by one to die, but about 20 rounds into the fight, demon prince casts "destroy mortals" or something like that and disrupted a greater resto, instantly killing half my team. GG.

I don't want to cheese it, ie. run to that pier in the back and spam wishes and greater restos, with infinite hardiness on frontliners. Even if I did cheese, I suspect I would still lose. Pfmw goes a long way here, but the enemies just retarget something that I cant pfmw, even from half a screen away. Do I need to be level 40 across the board? There's no way I can do that. I have alot of multiclasses.