Minotaurs, Too easy to knockout? Options

[Frazurblu]

I loved the improved minotaurs and their smite like ability and I appreciate the fact that because of their legendary affinity for labyrinths they are immune to maze and imprisonment spells. I am a little disappointed however that they are so easily knocked out by emotion and greater command. If their mental powers are so strong that the fore mentioned (very powerful) spells have no effect then surely it makes sense that the latter (much weaker) mind spells should have no effect as well. They would become a more worthy mid level opponent. Any thoughts about introducing a minotaur king or two?

[Frazurblu]

Thanks for the prompt answers guys.
I just assumed that because maze and imprisonment are similar in nature that minotaurs would be immune to both. It seemed too easy to emotion/G. Command these otherwise quite powerful creatures. I have gone to Kangaax's upper room and taken them out right after chateau Irenicus to get some easy gems and +2 axes. It is esp. easy if you use G. Malaison first although their saving throws are already not great.

Vik wrote;

the way you compare the spells are rather strange, because emotion and command are mental spells, thats right.but imprisonment and maze are not mental at all if you think about it they are physical since what is "mental" about being jailed in a small sphere under the ground??? cool.gif

While you are most likely correct on imprisonment I believe there is a strong mental component with regard to maze as your susceptibilty to it is dependant on intelligence. In the game you disappear but I believe that it is your mind that is trapped.

A minotaur king may not be an entirely new creature but simply a regular minotaur with extra HD , better THACO and maybe a special attack or power.