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[Ryel ril Ers]

Sorry for the offtopics but i have an idea for the cleric kit. Because it doesn't depends on any god, doesn't necessery modify the stronghold quest.

Warpriest

"Warpriests are fierce, earthy clerics who pray for peace, but prepare for war. Their strong wills, powerful personalities and devotion to their deities make them fearsome combatants."
Complete Divine 74. page (D&D 3)

Advantages
Can put 2 star every weapons, sword and shield style and two weapon style.

Every 4 level they gain an Inflame (see above) and Remove fear and every 8 level a Mass Cure.

Inflame: The warpriest flaming his soul. They filled by the will of their god.
Get one more attack and immunity to fear, charm, confusion, hopeless and command effects.

Able to learn Whirwind HLA

Disadvantages
Needs at least 13 Charisma (or it is advantage?) //Because he need good charisma for leadership
Cannot dual class

1)Cannot turn undead //There isn't undead army in the world
or
2)-1 spell per level //Because they don't have enough time to pray
or
3)-2 wisdom //the church not allow to the best talents wasted on the battlefield



I think this is a balanced class with unique power but not necessery better than a berserker->cleric.

[rbeverjr]

There have been many new kits made by fans of BG2. I haven’t played any of them except the Morituri (one unfinished game), vagrant (just started), and auramaster (part of a game in IA4.2).

The morituri appeals to me because it results in a character that is powerful because of innate power rather than just equipment (all other warriors and warrior kits) or even studied tomes (i.e. wizard). The closest that comes to an innately powerful character is the monk, but I doubt that the monk is as powerful as a well equipped warrior in IA. After much deliberation, I REJECT the morituri because it becomes too powerful in the end. I still feel like the fighter-mage was more powerful in IA4.2, but I never played the fighter-mage either. I would love it if someone could make a fighter kit that was innately powerful and could compete against the fighter-mages and blades without being overpowered. Of course, it is debatable that the fighter-mage and blade can become overpowered too. (However, Sikret has done a very good job of curbing some of the power of the fighter-mage with the fixed XP leveling progression and delayed HLAs.) The riskbreaker has some innate abilities that go along this line of thought. Still, I *speculate* that the kensai, barbarian, and berserker are more powerful than the riskbreaker for the majority of the game. I will probably give this kit a try later in my game just to further evaluate it in play. Any way, a warrior kit with a lot of innate power does interest me. Any suggestions are willing programmers?

I think the vagrant will be very powerful. He’s just a warrior; so, he will never be overpowered. However, the little advantages and the big advantage of the swanmay add up to an impressive kit. Still, I am only speaking speculatively as I haven’t played the kit enough yet to realize its full potential.

The auramaster is impressive. It’s an excellent druid. This kit makes me wish I had more places on my team. However, typically I choose only one cleric. The power of Greater Restoration is simply too much to give up for a druid. I also would not give up my 2 slots assigned to full mages for the druid. Even though the auramaster has some excellent arcane spells, there are many that it does not have. But for those that aren’t powergaming and like druids, I heartily recommend the auramaster.

[Raven]

I think the vagrant will be very powerful. He’s just a warrior; so, he will never be overpowered.

I agree that the Vagrant is not overpowered in IA but what you say does not make too much sense: you have just said that the Morituri is too powerful (again I agree). Yet the Morituri is 'just a warrior'...

[rbeverjr]

I think the vagrant will be very powerful. He’s just a warrior; so, he will never be overpowered.

I agree that the Vagrant is not overpowered in IA but what you say does not make too much sense: you have just said that the Morituri is too powerful (again I agree). Yet the Morituri is 'just a warrior'...

That's what has kept me pondering about the Morituri. He is a warrior, and any high level mage, fighter-mage, and blade (with unnerfed spell tables) should kill him. Possibly, the buffed cleric could kill him too depending on your modded game. On the other hand, considering the morituri's advantages and the scale they reach at the end, perhaps it is no longer fair to the other warriors to refer to the Morituri as "just a warrior." At least, that was the conclusion that I finally reached...