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Jan 2 2008, 10:47 PM
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Forum Member Posts: 178 Joined: 24-May 07 From: Budapest, Hungary |
When Shadan started to play with IA 4.2, he opened a topic for write his experiences. I want to continue this with the v 5.0. So everybody who want to share his/her experiences could write it in this place and don't opened hundreds of topics wich tells somebody walkthrough. I want to gather lots of information in one place. (Sikret's walkthrough is too good so i don't want write to that place), and the starter player see which tactics, parties and quest orders works, and how use his/her money.
I ask everybody who write in this topic: -Use spoilers tag for the tactics -Don't write down serious spoilers -Don't write down statistics (like xy has 69% fire resist) and immunities. (except the weapon enchantment and spell level immunities) This post has been edited by Ryel ril Ers: Aug 1 2008, 06:05 AM -------------------- My experiences in IA 5.0
PART I updated: 2008.08.06. Hungarian water polo history God bless our boys and rest in peace György Kolonics!!! |
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Jan 4 2008, 02:27 PM
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![]() Gold Member Tactical reputation: 3 Posts: 959 Joined: 29-June 07 From: Budapest - Hungary |
I have found Haer'Dalis very very usfull in my 4.2 run... Yes at start he was not so powerful, but after some levels and items he was. Here is why:
1. High lvl - His Remove magic was very good. Rarely used Skull trap also. 2. 8 attacks (Improved Haste, Cutthroat, Offensive Spin). OK, Cutthroat is nerfed now, but that means 6 attacks, and usually I had enough spins per days to use offensive spin in battles. 3. improved bard armor: this was very powerful item. With this HD was able cast at any time, and many spells in a row. He was able to renew his buffs within 2 secs, Remove magic when needed, launchecd 9 Magic Missile to an enemy within 2 secs (even when majority was resisted and others caused 1 damage, it was more damage to Supreme golem then a warrior with 2-3 hits) 4. Mislead + improved bard song (only ONE of course He had almost same spells per day as Nalia with her ring, just max lvl was lower with 1 than at Nalia. If you play dual mage, that won't help you at start, when blade is weak also, especially because of slower leveling in v5. Your mage will be low lvl without fighter skills at that time. So with kensai/berserker-mage dual, you won't get stronger char at early game. Imho you will get a slightly better melee damage dealer at end game, but he won't have those nice features like permanent cleansed aura, improved bard song and high level Remove magic. If you want simple F/M multi, that is even worse with slower lvl progression. Imho your grp is not lacking of arcane magic if you use blade, but I think I would let that Spirit Armor to my blade instead of sorcerer, and I would pick that spell what I could use it a bit later also. Spirit Armor is useless when you get a bit better equipment. I would use some scrolls when it is important and my blade run out of them or he don't have the lvl for this. And last comment: Is Sunfire nerfed in v5? I haven't read it. |
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Jan 4 2008, 03:28 PM
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Forum Member Posts: 178 Joined: 24-May 07 From: Budapest, Hungary |
I have found Haer'Dalis very very usfull in my 4.2 run... Yes at start he was not so powerful, but after some levels and items he was. Here is why: 1. High lvl - His Remove magic was very good. Rarely used Skull trap also. 2. 8 attacks (Improved Haste, Cutthroat, Offensive Spin). OK, Cutthroat is nerfed now, but that means 6 attacks, and usually I had enough spins per days to use offensive spin in battles. 3. improved bard armor: this was very powerful item. With this HD was able cast at any time, and many spells in a row. He was able to renew his buffs within 2 secs, Remove magic when needed, launchecd 9 Magic Missile to an enemy within 2 secs (even when majority was resisted and others caused 1 damage, it was more damage to Supreme golem then a warrior with 2-3 hits) 4. Mislead + improved bard song (only ONE of course He had almost same spells per day as Nalia with her ring, just max lvl was lower with 1 than at Nalia. I decide not change my blade, because it is my most likely class, and i need versalitily, in weapons and items. The bard armor is seems very good also. He has katana (i buy the dakkon blade as soon as possible) and scimitar (i don't know how dangerous the guardians of Belm for my party) profs and i know the hammer too (my main target is the hammer of thor), later i will learn bastard sword for the purifier and the foebane. If you play dual mage, that won't help you at start, when blade is weak also, especially because of slower leveling in v5. Your mage will be low lvl without fighter skills at that time. So with kensai/berserker-mage dual, you won't get stronger char at early game. Imho you will get a slightly better melee damage dealer at end game, but he won't have those nice features like permanent cleansed aura, improved bard song and high level Remove magic. If you want simple F/M multi, that is even worse with slower lvl progression. Imho your grp is not lacking of arcane magic if you use blade, but I think I would let that Spirit Armor to my blade instead of sorcerer, and I would pick that spell what I could use it a bit later also. Spirit Armor is useless when you get a bit better equipment. I would use some scrolls when it is important and my blade run out of them or he don't have the lvl for this. I have a pure class kensai and i want him good armor, but don't exists any item in the game who add permanent armor for the kensai. The shield amulet grants only AC 4 and no save, and half duration, so i choose this spell instead. In the early game it is very powerful, and later it will be good for my kensai. And last comment: Is Sunfire nerfed in v5? I haven't read it. Yes, it has lower damage (read the tweaks in the documents) -------------------- My experiences in IA 5.0
PART I updated: 2008.08.06. Hungarian water polo history God bless our boys and rest in peace György Kolonics!!! |
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I tend to go thr... Jan 3 2008, 12:58 PM
Ryel ril Ers Thanks Shaitan! :)
I think the Spirit Armor i... Jan 3 2008, 02:16 PM
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Raven If you changed your Blade to a Kensai with a view ... Jan 4 2008, 11:43 AM
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Ryel ril Ers @Ryel
This is a good topic and you set good rules... Jan 4 2008, 09:32 PM
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trufa
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Ryel ril Ers
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trufa Off
Yes He did my first NPC (Halfling FT)... Jan 4 2008, 10:23 PM
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Sikret Without the multiple strognhold component of EoU i... Jan 5 2008, 04:18 AM
Ryel ril Ers Somebody ask how to use blades. Here it is:
-Gene... Jan 5 2008, 05:54 PM
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lroumen Interesting read so far.
I'm busy with a 5-6... Jan 7 2008, 02:32 PM
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Baronius
In the world of heros and dragons, everything is ... Jan 7 2008, 08:55 PM
Ryel ril Ers Thank you very much, Baronius! If you see we (... Jan 7 2008, 09:07 PM
shadan Ryel, while I have some times from my work for som... Jan 8 2008, 08:04 AM
Ryel ril Ers PART5 added.
I find two cheasy method:
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Sikret I find two cheasy method:
Tazok don't react if... Jan 11 2008, 09:30 AM
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Sikret @Ryel
I just discovered Tazok's problem in yo... Jan 11 2008, 10:28 AM
Ryel ril Ers @Sikret
I don't use cheese methods. I didn... Jan 11 2008, 11:06 AM
Shaitan I don't think Sikret meant to be hard on you R... Jan 11 2008, 11:36 AM
Sikret @Ryel
If you don't have a saved game before s... Jan 11 2008, 11:47 AM
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Ryel ril Ers @Sikret
I don't know how do you play or tell a... Jan 11 2008, 02:51 PM
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The minute meteor works with dual... Jan 12 2008, 11:15 AM
Sikret @Ryel
At first, I thought your only problem was t... Jan 12 2008, 09:29 PM
Ryel ril Ers @Ryel
At first, I thought your only problem was t... Jan 13 2008, 01:12 AM
Sikret At first my only problem really was i didn't h... Jan 13 2008, 02:00 AM
Baronius The topic can have a good place in our BG2 Gaming ... Jan 13 2008, 02:26 AM
Sikret Thanks, Baronius!
Needless to add that other ... Jan 13 2008, 05:09 AM
Ryel ril Ers First time you don't use the please so you com... Jan 13 2008, 11:21 AM
Sikret I'm tired of this thread, Ryel! I explaine... Jan 13 2008, 12:03 PM
Ryel ril Ers Good day to my readers, we moved here, because the... Jan 13 2008, 07:59 PM
Sikret Sikret don't want another tester
I always wel... Jan 14 2008, 10:45 AM
Ryel ril Ers A mistake happaned so i wrote to Sikret:
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Baronius Ryel, you mentioned in an Improved Anvil thread th... Jan 18 2008, 07:37 AM
Ryel ril Ers @Baronius
I didn't abandon my current game. I... Jan 18 2008, 08:53 AM
Mongerman Despite english obviously being your 2nd language=... Jan 27 2008, 06:19 AM
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I will continue it next ... Jan 30 2008, 04:07 PM
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