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Are you happy with Nalia's class (= A weaker duplicate of Imeon)? Or do you prefer her to be a sorceress? Of course, she says things about lockpicking in her dialogues, but perhaps they are not really too many or too important. Another alternative is to increase her level in thief class to make her a better thief for those who want to save a slot for a party member (though in this way she will become even more identical with Imoen).
Another option is to leave Nalia as she is and change Imoen to a Sorceress when you find her in Spellhold. The justification can be that through the rituals and experiments performed on her, amazing and radical changes have occurred in her mental status. A last and moderate choice is to leave both of them as they are but just re-distribute Nalia's thieving skills to make her a better trap finder/disarmer. 10% of her pick pocket skill can be safely moved to her remove trap. Any comments? This post has been edited by Sikret: Jul 3 2007, 07:33 AM -------------------- Improved Anvil
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Jul 3 2007, 09:32 PM
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Forum Member Posts: 154 Joined: 8-May 07 From: Germany |
Sorcerers:
While some reasons are given why they have their power to cast arcane spells (heritage, that is) I think they don't really "learn" it. To me it appears more to be some sort of "weave manipulation". What I mean is that they manipulate that magical weave thingy in such a way that a spell similar to the one wizards can cast is created (cast). Who says a sorcerer's fireball is orange or red? Why not white or violet or whatever? This idea of using pure arcane power instead of copying some magical words and gestures written on a piece of paper is a reason why I - as a DM - would always allow my players' sorcerers to learn "Iceball" (or whatever name you want) as well as "Fireball" - it's almost the same, just a little bit different in terms of manipulating the magical energies. Of course wizards could research such a spell Nalia and Imoen + my opinion: Nalia sucks. 'nuff said. She's annoying as hell and a crappy thief on top of that. I redistributed her thief points myself until I kicked her out in the asylum to get Imoen - not only because she is the better thief but because she has more (right? From a power gamer's point of view there's no reason to get Imoen instead of Nalia though... because of Nalia's ring. So I would agree to have Imoen as a sorceress and Nalia with redistributed thieving points. But there are some things you might want to think about: 1. Make this an optional component. Not everyone would like this change - and those wouldn't be forced to accept it. 2. Make Imoen a low level sorceress with her basic experience points she has got normally. This way players can choose most spell as they level her up. It's similar with Kelsey and Tashia: they have a start level and from then on only gain experience and no more levels, allowing for individual spell picks. 3. Change Imoen's paperdoll to a mage please |
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Sikret Nalia & Imoen Jul 3 2007, 07:32 AM
Stu
I'm doing this in my current game atm with a ... Jul 3 2007, 07:59 AM
Sikret Thanks for the comments, Stu!
Atm Nalia... Jul 3 2007, 08:55 AM
Toxeus
Well, none of these two NPCs have the best select... Jul 3 2007, 06:43 PM
shadan Agree, Nalia and Imoen are very similar to each ot... Jul 3 2007, 10:43 AM
muddymissfit
Another option is to leave Nalia as she is and c... Jul 3 2007, 12:56 PM
rbeverjr Personally, I wouldn't mind a change in one or... Jul 3 2007, 01:28 PM
Raven I would say tweak Nalia's thief points but oth... Jul 3 2007, 02:17 PM
rbeverjr
Also it's clear from what she says that Nalia... Jul 3 2007, 02:34 PM

Sikret
A sorcerer learns magic too. It takes XP for them... Jul 3 2007, 02:52 PM

Raven
A sorcerer learns magic too. It takes XP for them... Jul 3 2007, 06:28 PM
Sikret
Also it's clear from what she says that Nali... Jul 3 2007, 02:45 PM
thetruth
In general, I agree that Nalia's dialogues m... Jul 8 2007, 06:37 PM
nataben1314 Well I'm personally not a big fan of Nalia or ... Jul 3 2007, 03:34 PM
rbeverjr Off topic (unless this trivia matters to someone v... Jul 3 2007, 03:55 PM
Sikret I have also read somewhere that sorcerers have dra... Jul 3 2007, 04:07 PM
Baronius My vote goes for Imoen as a sorceress. It would al... Jul 3 2007, 04:28 PM
coaster I quite like the idea of Immy as sorceress, but in... Jul 3 2007, 04:39 PM
Baronius I really liked her as a thief in BG1, and absolute... Jul 3 2007, 04:50 PM
leonidas Nalia is already the most powerful mage choice, an... Jul 3 2007, 05:05 PM
(Ø=M)^42 I would like to see Imoen as a Thief->Sorcerer,... Jul 3 2007, 08:04 PM
Clown Personally I've always missed the chance to ke... Jul 3 2007, 09:18 PM
sturmvogel I refuse to suffer any penalties when adding in a ... Jul 3 2007, 09:24 PM
Marceror I've been reading up on this topic and the mor... Jul 3 2007, 09:42 PM
Roy Usually I don't even take Imoen or Nalia.As th... Jul 4 2007, 07:31 PM
Romulas I vote for immy to be a sorceress, straight and tr... Jul 5 2007, 09:46 PM
Marceror Oh sure, leave the guy with the greatest phobia ab... Jul 6 2007, 12:10 AM
Ryel ril Ers I vote for Imoen as a sorcerer one condition. Pick... Jul 8 2007, 12:32 PM
Stu
I was pretty annoyed that the game designers sudd... Jul 9 2007, 05:49 AM
Shaitan If it isn't to late I'll say keep Nalia as... Jul 9 2007, 07:52 AM
Sikret Nalia will remain a theif-mage for sure. I've ... Jul 9 2007, 08:34 AM
muddymissfit
considering the actual role of thieves in game -... Jul 9 2007, 10:11 AM
Exor I vote for Immy to become a Thief/Wildmage and Nal... Jul 9 2007, 11:13 AM
Shaitan
There's a mod out there making Nallys thiefs... Jul 9 2007, 11:55 AM
Raven
Making her a sorcerer on the other hand increases... Jul 9 2007, 12:53 PM
rbeverjr I still agree that it was not a good idea for Biow... Jul 9 2007, 01:30 PM
lroumen After having played IA version 2 or something alon... Jul 9 2007, 02:59 PM
Sikret Welcome to the forum, Iroumen!
Nalia's pi... Jul 9 2007, 03:06 PM
lroumen Thank you.
That's a good point. I hadn't ... Jul 9 2007, 03:22 PM
Magnus_025 What worries me the most is that if Immy is change... Jul 28 2007, 10:17 AM
Sikret I moved your post to the right topic, Magnus!
... Jul 28 2007, 11:45 AM
lroumen Yoshimo is a weak character in IA (regardless of c... Jul 29 2007, 09:49 AM
Sikret Yoshimo is a weak character in IA (regardless of c... Jul 29 2007, 10:56 AM
lroumen Ah yes, I didn't mean to suggest it for an Anv... Jul 29 2007, 04:52 PM
berelinde Zyraen's Miscellany at PPG offers the opportun... Jul 29 2007, 05:33 PM
lroumen Thanks for the information. Now I remember... that... Jul 29 2007, 07:11 PM
Magnus_025 Ok Sikret, let's make a deal then: I continue ... Jul 29 2007, 07:19 PM
Raven I want to say that I really like the idea of Immy ... Jul 29 2007, 07:30 PM
Silverstar Hmm, will there be a seperate component to make Im... Jul 29 2007, 10:54 PM
Demivrgvs I've always seen and played Imoen as a Swashbu... Aug 1 2007, 07:32 AM
lroumen I've always seen and played Imoen as a Swashbu... Aug 1 2007, 09:56 AM
Magnus_025 A little change is always welcome, but everyone kn... Aug 2 2007, 09:03 AM
Baronius And wasn't it shocking to see her degraded to ... Aug 2 2007, 09:45 AM
Magnus_025 Yes I was surprised that she was changed into a Du... Aug 2 2007, 10:34 AM
lroumen I think that if written well in a few banters, the... Aug 2 2007, 11:16 AM
Magnus_025 And couldn't it be Nalia the one who changes i... Aug 2 2007, 11:23 AM
Baronius I believe the other thread is supposed to be only ... Aug 2 2007, 11:34 AM
Sikret @Magnus:
Yes, Nalia was also a choice. As you can... Aug 2 2007, 02:19 PM
berelinde The biggest argument for Imoen's theiving skil... Aug 2 2007, 03:02 PM
Providence The biggest argument for Imoen's theiving skil... Aug 2 2007, 09:13 PM
Magnus_025 Yeah, they probably wanted us to dual her to a mag... Aug 2 2007, 10:47 PM
Providence Yeah, they probably wanted us to dual her to a mag... Aug 2 2007, 11:11 PM
lroumen They could have kept her a thief, given her a Wand... Aug 2 2007, 11:53 PM
Shaitan Besides BG1 didn't really need a mage thus per... Aug 11 2007, 08:18 AM![]() ![]() |
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