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rbeverjr
post May 11 2007, 03:33 PM
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The Inquisitor class seems to be a specialized mage killer in the regular game. His quick cast True Seeing and double strength Dispel Magic combined with an unbugged, unnerfed Carsomyr made him a terror to mages. As far as I'm concerned, I'd only choose this class for added challenge in IA. I've got plenty of people who can cast True Seeing, but usually persistent area effect damage spells seem to work better. Dispel Magic isn't as effective as I would like. In the beginning, it seems like the improved opposition is often 20+ levels, and I expect that increases in ToB. That means Dispel Magic at double power can still fail. However, the real problem is Immunity-Abjuration. If not for that, the mage would die quickly anyway. Ruby Ray often isn't a big help unless you can chain it or use several mages, because you must peel back layers of spells to get rid of the immunity abjuration. And I hope that you can't put that spell in a contingency! The nerfed Carsomyr may still be worthwhile, but a fighter-thief would probably be better served through using it than the inquisitor. At least, the fighter-thief has the useful time traps.

Spell strike should work. However, I don't think it defeats Immunity Abjuration in IA even though it belongs to Alteration as well as Abjuration schools. Right? If you are worried about that making things too easy, let Spell Strike work 50% of the time or some such. After all, it is a level 9 spell.

Any way, I think it would be nice to make a better mage killer. The Wizard slayer has always been regarded as somewhat of a bad joke and now the inquisitor is not so good in my opinion. I hope Sikret will offer us some tweaks and/or items to enhance these 2 classes in the next edition.
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Ardanis
post May 27 2007, 09:07 AM
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I'm getting a strong feeling that I should leave BWL completely... Whenever I say smth here I get silly accusations in my adress. Just thoughts aloud...

Back on topic. I know that in bg2 it's an abjuration spell. What I said was related to PnP rules. According them Spellstrike is alteration spell. Ok, at least according the version/edition/whatever sounds better I have.


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post May 27 2007, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Ardanis @ May 27 2007, 01:37 PM) *
I'm getting a strong feeling that I should leave BWL completely... Whenever I say smth here I get silly accusations in my adress. Just thoughts aloud...


That's because you say silly things or you say them in silly ways.
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Back on topic. I know that in bg2 it's an abjuration spell. What I said was related to PnP rules. According them Spellstrike is alteration spell. Ok, at least according the version/edition/whatever sounds better I have.


If that's what you meant you should have stated it in a way such as "In my opinion, it's better to change it to alteration school" instead of "Actually it's you who's incorrect. etc..."



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rbeverjr   Spell protections   May 11 2007, 03:33 PM
thetruth   Dispel Magic isn't as effective as I would l...   May 11 2007, 03:56 PM
rbeverjr   Of course you can put Ruby Ray in a CC ;) . W...   May 11 2007, 04:01 PM
Sikret   I don't know, Keldorn's Dispel Magic neve...   May 11 2007, 05:16 PM
thetruth   No you can't put an SI in Contigencies,Sequenc...   May 11 2007, 04:05 PM
Romulas   This might be a good time to suggest this, and I c...   May 13 2007, 04:32 PM
Sikret   In my opinion a spell like spellstrike (9th level...   May 14 2007, 05:09 AM
Ardanis   Actually it's you who's incorrect. Spells...   May 13 2007, 10:37 PM
Sikret   I forgot to reply to the following: Actually it...   May 27 2007, 07:03 AM
Romulas   Thanks for the feedback. Just trying to throw out...   May 14 2007, 01:41 PM
luan   I just carry around non-enchanted swords/slings/et...   May 14 2007, 06:25 PM
Romulas   I just carry around non-enchanted swords/slings/e...   May 14 2007, 10:04 PM
rbeverjr   I just carry around non-enchanted swords/slings/...   May 14 2007, 10:40 PM
rbeverjr   I've seen mantles... I also carry around non-m...   May 14 2007, 07:02 PM
luan   I think it'd be awesome to script the enemy sp...   May 14 2007, 07:39 PM
luan   Both of you guys make good points, which is why I ...   May 14 2007, 11:15 PM
Arkain   As this topic was renamed to something perfectly f...   May 16 2007, 05:49 PM
thetruth   As this topic was renamed to something perfectly ...   May 16 2007, 06:16 PM
Arkain   Hmm... I was just going to reinstall the whole gam...   May 16 2007, 06:27 PM
leonidas   Just checking in to say I've repeatedly experi...   May 16 2007, 06:55 PM
thetruth   Yes it doesn't have to do with IA. Just tried ...   May 16 2007, 07:10 PM
Arkain   Hmm... maybe Sikret should abandon SS from the lis...   May 16 2007, 07:22 PM
BotD   So I finally learned Ruby Ray on Edwin and was thi...   May 25 2007, 12:46 AM
Mongerman   BotD, what is the bug? If its RR not bringing down...   May 25 2007, 01:05 AM
Arkain   It's this awful bug which makes magefights a h...   May 25 2007, 07:25 PM
BotD   Yes, I was referring to the Spell Shield bug. It ...   May 26 2007, 06:43 AM
Sikret   Yes, I was referring to the Spell Shield bug. It ...   May 28 2007, 09:22 AM
Arkain   That's why I usually protect my party (all, if...   May 26 2007, 07:41 PM
BotD   Oddly enough, Protection from Magical Energy does ...   May 26 2007, 11:27 PM
Arkain   PfME protects you only from pure magic damage, lik...   May 27 2007, 04:02 AM
Ardanis   I'm getting a strong feeling that I should lea...   May 27 2007, 09:07 AM
Sikret   I'm getting a strong feeling that I should le...   May 27 2007, 10:13 AM
Arkain   Maybe I'm blind or something, but IA v4.3 isn...   May 28 2007, 07:25 PM
leonidas   Maybe I'm blind or something, but IA v4.3 isn...   May 28 2007, 07:34 PM


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