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Zarion
post May 6 2007, 05:17 PM
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I just found this mod a few weeks ago, and I've been playing this mod for about a week. In my current game I've just left the Underdark with my Evil Party (m/f, Korgan, Edwin, Viconia and Valen(without her lvldrain)) everyone have at least 4-5 high-level abilities and so far I've enjoyed the mod. The scripts are well done and make most battles more challenging. The upgrades are really cool, and the components from “harder” enemies makes them seem deserved.

But even though I like the mod I won't be using it after I'm done with this run-through. This is mainly due to the way you have made the enemies more challenging. You seem to have taken the use of resistances to the hearth, and that is ofcause one way of making the game harder, but I must admit I dislike it. At the moment the only spells Edwin and Viconia gets to cast are “pre-battle-buffs” and dispel effects since almost every (challenging) enemy I'm meeting are very resistant, not only to magic, but to most elemental and magical damage as well. For me that drastically cuts down on the “fun”, since it takes away the “group feel” where every class is needed to win a battle and have something to do during the battle... other then standing in a corner hiding so they won't die.

My suggestions to improve the feeling of the mod is to cut down on some of the 100% resistances this mod adds especially on “none-boss-fights” (ie insane dwarf, Firkraag-party ect.) and give them 75% resistances if you still want them to be “hard” or perhaps 50% with one or two 100% so the player have to try a bit before finding the right type of magic. Another way to do it could be to build up the resistances though the use of “forcecast” scripts on certain hp percentages. Ie; the opponent starts with 25% resistances to none melee damage, and then builds up to 50% at 75% hp and so forth.

The constant use of regeneration also bugs me a bit, especially in groupbattles where you it foceres you to focus on one target at a time, but it keeps the pressure on the player, since it means no more running out of combat to get healed, and that is a good thing smile.gif.

Well, I think that is about all I have to say, unless I find anything to add at a later time smile.gif, thanks for the mod, and all the hard work put into it.
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rbeverjr
post May 7 2007, 07:07 PM
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Of course, shop-lifting is realistic. It happens all the time, and many times the thief gets away with it. Putting up a rule of NO stealing certainly makes things harder, but at the expense of realism. People have stolen prized paintings recently among other "fabulous" heists. Yes, it is possible. I don't really like the no stealing rule (but I can live with it). I would like the Prized possessions to not be available for theft, but stealing from some of the lesser merchants - a few nice (but not too nice) scrolls, potions, and lesser items, which could be sold back only to fences and only for a tenth or twentieth of their price (not making it worthwhile to try to earn money that way).

I don't think we need to be so concerned in Improved Anvil about cheating. People load up IA for the challenge. If they cheat or seek exploits, then they are just cheating themselves. Some players may need some avenue to "cheat" to bridge the gap in difficulty between Improved Anvil and other BG2 games. After all, Improved Anvil is much harder than anything else that I've found. As far as I'm concerned, if someone wants to cheat, he usually will and as it is his game rather than mine, I don't care. My personal ambition is to beat IA on Insane (no cheating, of course) some day... or maybe some year. smile.gif

As far as forging IA items, well, it's a matter of opinion how easy it should be to make the items. Thetruth could beat IA with a fighter armed with a broom stick. I'm not there yet. I would like a little more money personally (in IA 5, maybe?). I personally think some of the new items should be more easily forged (money is usually the limiting factor) - those items that make the game a little easier rather than a lot easier. Of course, it should be very, very difficult to forge the Judgment Day sword and uber items. Regardless whether I can get these items, I'll improve my own tactical play, and it is improving already. smile.gif
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post May 8 2007, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(rbeverjr @ May 7 2007, 11:37 PM) *

I don't think we need to be so concerned in Improved Anvil about cheating. People load up IA for the challenge. If they cheat or seek exploits, then they are just cheating themselves.


I agree, but to be honest with you, one reason I disabled cheating of some items in IA was to save my own time. Some players used to cheat critical items into their games which would cause bugs if they were not gained normally during the game. Then they used to appear in forums to report bugs about IA. They were not honest enough to admit that they had cheated and then I needed to spend several hours investigating to know whether the reported bug was a genuine one or just one occurred because of the player's cheats.



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post May 8 2007, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(Sikret @ May 8 2007, 03:25 AM) *

QUOTE(rbeverjr @ May 7 2007, 11:37 PM) *

I don't think we need to be so concerned in Improved Anvil about cheating. People load up IA for the challenge. If they cheat or seek exploits, then they are just cheating themselves.


I agree, but to be honest with you, one reason I disabled cheating of some items in IA was to save my own time. Some players used to cheat critical items into their games which would cause bugs if they were not gained normally during the game. Then they used to appear in forums to report bugs about IA. They were not honest enough to admit that they had cheated and then I needed to spend several hours investigating to know whether the reported bug was a genuine one or just one occurred because of the player's cheats.


Well, I appreciate you doing what you must to keep the bugs out of my game. Now if I could just get control of the spiders. wink.gif

P.S. I just noticed that this could be read that I'm a big cheater (more like a little cheater, at least I would consider some of the mods and what I do to be cheats in the regular game). So, what you are doing may not be specifically protecting me, but I do appreciate all efforts to keep the game bug-free. Actually, I just now received my first Improved Anvil upgrade, at level 21. Hopefully, there will be more to come!

Now, having gone through Nalia's keep already in version 4.1, if I knew of some way to "cheat" FoA +3, I would. Is the poison head no longer found where it used to be in Watcher's Keep level 2? It wasn't there when I looked. I'm hoping I can somehow get the +4 weapon forged even if I am having problems forging the +3 weapon. I have a +2 FoA and the other appropriate (and found) head in my bottomless bag in hopes that somehow I can do something with it. If not, I'll get the real FoA in my next game.

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Zarion   First IA experience   May 6 2007, 05:17 PM
Sikret   My suggestions to improve the feeling of the mod ...   May 7 2007, 08:53 AM
rbeverjr   I’ll just park some of my initial impressions in...   May 7 2007, 03:04 PM
thetruth   After leaving the Underdark, I headed to Watche...   May 7 2007, 07:17 PM
leonidas   The problem with stealing from shops is that there...   May 7 2007, 03:27 PM
Razfallow   The problem with stealing from shops is that ther...   May 7 2007, 03:49 PM
Baronius   I know this isn't the reason (or at least not ...   May 7 2007, 06:10 PM
thetruth   I believe that Sikret disabled stealing from shops...   May 7 2007, 06:37 PM
rbeverjr   Of course, shop-lifting is realistic. It happens a...   May 7 2007, 07:07 PM
thetruth   Of course, shop-lifting is realistic. It happens ...   May 7 2007, 07:38 PM
Sikret   I don't think we need to be so concerned in I...   May 8 2007, 07:25 AM
rbeverjr   I don't think we need to be so concerned in ...   May 8 2007, 12:46 PM
leonidas   Hell, it's not even just a matter of realism. ...   May 7 2007, 07:11 PM
thetruth   @Zarion But even though I like the mod I won...   May 7 2007, 07:54 PM
Romulas   So if I might chime in here on the resistance issu...   May 7 2007, 08:51 PM
luan   Really enjoying my first experience with IA so far...   May 9 2007, 02:22 AM
Sikret   Decided to go with: Swashbuckler PC Don't you...   May 10 2007, 04:12 PM
luan   Yes I do! But first I just wanted to try a c...   May 10 2007, 05:46 PM
Sikret   Yes I do! But first I just wanted to try a ...   May 11 2007, 04:45 PM
amendara   Well I joined the forums just to offer my thanks f...   May 10 2007, 02:51 PM
Sikret   Welcome to BWL, Kudos/amendara! Well I joine...   May 10 2007, 03:41 PM
luan   Finished all the quests and boss mobs in chapter I...   May 14 2007, 04:15 AM
Sikret   IA has really improved my tactical playing. I fin...   May 14 2007, 07:50 AM
Mongerman   I can assure you money is not a big problem at the...   May 14 2007, 06:09 AM
luan   It was with Borinall's group. I thought thing...   May 14 2007, 10:13 AM
Sikret   I have a save game that I will play through to exp...   May 14 2007, 10:19 AM
Romulas   Sikret Speaking of mage content, is there anymore...   May 14 2007, 01:24 PM
Sikret   Speaking of mage content, is there anymore after...   May 14 2007, 01:35 PM
luan   Haha oh man... I can get -26 in my game, so I t...   May 14 2007, 06:18 PM
rbeverjr   Copied from a BG2 forum: AC. The game engine coun...   May 14 2007, 07:06 PM
Romulas   Copied from a BG2 forum: AC. The game engine cou...   May 14 2007, 09:56 PM
Sikret   Sorry for the delayed reply. I had somehow missed ...   May 15 2007, 11:13 AM
luan   I guess I engaged the encounter a little too early...   May 15 2007, 04:11 PM
luan   Just maimed the Chromatic Demon. To my surprise he...   May 15 2007, 08:49 PM
Sikret   Just maimed the Chromatic Demon. To my surprise h...   May 16 2007, 08:23 AM
luan   My goodness, just received Vanya's quest. Pret...   May 16 2007, 12:09 AM
luan   Made it down to level 4 in WK. It might be somethi...   May 16 2007, 08:16 AM
Sikret   I'm accumulating experience at a tremendous r...   May 16 2007, 08:31 AM
thetruth   Made it down to level 4 in WK. It might be someth...   May 16 2007, 08:47 AM
luan   I'd never want it easier! I am unaware o...   May 16 2007, 08:39 AM
Sikret   Is Improved Anvil the last mod you have installed,...   May 16 2007, 08:55 AM
luan   Yes, I completely agree. This is more an explorat...   May 16 2007, 08:57 AM
thetruth   For my next run through (IA v5), I'm most li...   May 16 2007, 09:27 AM
Sikret   Btw I think luan is one of the few players who don...   May 16 2007, 09:36 AM
Baronius   Edit: Did you receive my PM? I don't want to s...   May 16 2007, 01:05 PM
luan   Ah, good to know, thanks. Just went through hell...   May 17 2007, 04:51 AM
luan   Just successfully completed the post-firkraag adve...   May 17 2007, 10:07 AM
Sikret   He is the head honcho of the assassins for a very...   May 17 2007, 03:54 PM
thetruth   He is the head honcho of the assassins for a ver...   May 17 2007, 07:14 PM
luan   I think I'm going to have nightmares about cob...   May 18 2007, 01:11 AM
leonidas   Not so much a hint as making it blindingly obvious...   May 18 2007, 01:16 PM
Romulas   Just a few thoughts on the viper queen, a clue as ...   May 18 2007, 05:10 PM
luan   This particular battle also slowed my computer, ...   May 18 2007, 11:14 PM
Sikret   The point of the battle with cobras is that while ...   May 19 2007, 08:25 AM
Romulas   The point of the battle with cobras is that while...   May 19 2007, 03:48 PM
luan   Was finally able to take down the big scary Dracon...   May 20 2007, 06:14 AM
muddymissfit   Um first thoughts? Make teh bad man stop :blink:...   Jun 10 2007, 09:27 AM


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