Vadek (spoilers), Don't read if you've not met Vadek yet Options

[rbeverjr]

What tactics will allow a level 13 party to kill Vadek? I have no problem chopping up Lady Galvenus, but my only +4 weapon is Melf's Minute Meteors. The space is constricted with a "good" girl in the midst of the area of effect (don't want to hit her) and of course there is no way that I know of to bring down Vadek's spell protections (don't have multiple scrolls of Ruby Ray). My current party consists of kensai 13, fighter 7-mage 13, sorcerer 13, ranger 7-cleric 13, swashbuckler 15, and fighter-illusionist multi - levels are apx.

[Sikret]

Yes, Vadek has one Absolute Immunity and two Improved Mantles. So, once his stoneskins are removed (you need to attack him to remove the skins), he will be invulnerable for a maximum duration of twelve rounds. After that period of time, he will be vulnerable to your attacks. (BTW, why did you go to chapter 4 with such a low level party? You will probably have more problems later.)

[thetruth]

BTW, why did you go to chapter 4 with such a low level party? You will probably have more problems later.

This is true.
I understand that many players want to go as soon as possible at Spellhold for Imoen but IMO it would be better if you had at least 1.7-2 M of XP.

Imoen will lose some XP, but you will have easier time with the difficult battles of the Underdark.

Anyway it's still doable so rbeverjr don't worry about it.

This post has been edited by thetruth: Apr 26 2007, 03:47 PM

[Sikret]

BTW, why did you go to chapter 4 with such a low level party? You will probably have more problems later.

This is true.
I understand that many players want to go as soon as possible at Spellhold for Imoen but IMO it would be better if you had at least 1.7-2 M of XP.

Imoen will lose some XP, but you will have easier time with the difficult battles of the Underdark.

I'm thinking of doing something about this. In the original game, Imoen can be (at most) 13th level, right?

What if I add something here to have a higher level Imoen if you go for him with a high level party?

As about the FoA I don't know if it's possible to CLUA-in the FoA +3 in your game. Maybe Sikret could suggest a solution for this, since you would have the flail without that problem in the DeArnise keep.

With not returning to a saved game before D'Arnise keep, rbeverjr has not only lost the possibility to forge the +3 Flail, but also has not seen some of the challenges of the area (Keep Viper, additional spiders, etc). So, now, he shouldn't perhaps have the flail without having faced those challenges.

[thetruth]

I'm thinking of doing something about this. In the original game, Imoen can be (at most) 13th level, right?

What if I add something here to have a higher level Imoen if you go for him with a high level party?

This is a good idea. Yes Imoen's highest level can be 13.
You could make her highest level 15 (about 2M of XP) for example (and only if the PC has >2M of XP).

My only problem is if this XP can be justified, since Imoen had been imprisoned during this time.

With not returning to a saved game before D'Arnise keep, rbeverjr has not only lost the possibility to forge the +3 Flail, but also has not seen some of the challenges of the area (Keep Viper, additional spiders, etc). So, now, he shouldn't perhaps have the flail without having faced those challenges.

Hehe yes, maybe now he has to suffer the consequences

On the other hand though, since he has killed Torgal and he has already missed the FoA until now, maybe we can forgive him.
Besides I am sure that he will meet again these enemies in the near future.