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rbeverjr
post Apr 26 2007, 01:02 PM
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What tactics will allow a level 13 party to kill Vadek? I have no problem chopping up Lady Galvenus, but my only +4 weapon is Melf's Minute Meteors. The space is constricted with a "good" girl in the midst of the area of effect (don't want to hit her) and of course there is no way that I know of to bring down Vadek's spell protections (don't have multiple scrolls of Ruby Ray). My current party consists of kensai 13, fighter 7-mage 13, sorcerer 13, ranger 7-cleric 13, swashbuckler 15, and fighter-illusionist multi - levels are apx.
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thetruth
post Apr 26 2007, 02:51 PM
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IIRC Vadek doesn't use Remove Magic (or at least he doesn't use it more than 1 time).

So first of all give protection from Fire and Electricity to your characters.
Prot. from M.Energy would be also very good since he casts many ADHWs IIRC.

Also he uses MMMs, so keep the character he is targetting as close as possible to him in order to get a penalty to his THACO (since MMMs are a missile weapon).

Unfortunately you won't be able to bring down his SI since you don't have Ruby Ray. But attacking in melee and with the above protections he will not be able to damage you enough.
(BTW Sikret had correctly given SI: Divination to some of the Mages of early-mid game and I suggested that they would be more effective with Abjuration without thinking that the player can't have Ruby Ray in early game. Sorry grinteeth.gif )


If he uses A.Immunity wait for its duration to run out.
And MMMs have been tweaked in IA, they are now +3 enchanted.

If you still have problems with him, summon a couple of lesser summons to waste his Death Spells (or use the Wand of Monster Summoning) and then give him a Nishruu to play with.

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post Apr 26 2007, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(thetruth @ Apr 26 2007, 07:21 PM) *

If you still have problems with him, summon a couple of lesser summons to waste his Death Spells (or use the Wand of Monster Summoning) and then give him a Nishruu to play with.


Vadek is one of those smart mages who won't waste all of his Death Spells on your lesser summoned creatures and will reserve some for your powerful summons (such as Nishruus). groucho.gif



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post Apr 26 2007, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(Sikret @ Apr 26 2007, 05:06 PM) *

Vadek is one of those smart mages who won't waste all of his Death Spells on your lesser summoned creatures and will reserve some for your powerful summons (such as Nishruus). groucho.gif



Hmm OK dry.gif .

Rbeverjr don't forget that you have a powerful party with 3 Mages.
Even if you don't have PfMEnergy you can use Mirror Image or SI: Necromancy on your Mages for those ADHWs wink.gif

Besides you don't have to attack with all your characters.
I am sure that with all these protections you can kill him.
It's just a matter of time.



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post Apr 26 2007, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(thetruth @ Apr 26 2007, 11:17 AM) *

Rbeverjr don't forget that you have a powerful party with 3 Mages.
Even if you don't have PfMEnergy you can use Mirror Image or SI: Necromancy on your Mages for those ADHWs wink.gif

Besides you don't have to attack with all your characters.
I am sure that with all these protections you can kill him.
It's just a matter of time.


Thanks for your vote of confidence. smile.gif All my mages and the kensai start the fight with mirror image.
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rbeverjr   Vadek (spoilers)   Apr 26 2007, 01:02 PM
thetruth   IIRC Vadek doesn't use Remove Magic (or at lea...   Apr 26 2007, 02:51 PM
Sikret   If you still have problems with him, summon a co...   Apr 26 2007, 03:06 PM
thetruth   Vadek is one of those smart mages who won't w...   Apr 26 2007, 03:17 PM
rbeverjr   Rbeverjr don't forget that you have a powerfu...   Apr 26 2007, 03:28 PM
rbeverjr   I need to check to see if Prot from Magical Energy...   Apr 26 2007, 03:03 PM
rbeverjr   Hah, Sikret answered as I edited. I suspected he (...   Apr 26 2007, 03:08 PM
Sikret   Yes, Vadek has one Absolute Immunity and two Impro...   Apr 26 2007, 03:27 PM
thetruth   BTW, why did you go to chapter 4 with such a low ...   Apr 26 2007, 03:46 PM
Sikret   BTW, why did you go to chapter 4 with such a low...   Apr 27 2007, 01:05 PM
thetruth   I'm thinking of doing something about this. I...   Apr 27 2007, 01:28 PM
rbeverjr   Yes, Vadek has one Absolute Immunity and two Impr...   Apr 26 2007, 03:53 PM
thetruth   I wonder if I can cast area of effects that won...   Apr 26 2007, 04:01 PM
rbeverjr   You're right, thetruth. I managed. I kept Vade...   Apr 26 2007, 11:40 PM
thetruth   Good job rbeverjr; yes some of the difficult battl...   Apr 27 2007, 12:52 PM
Fillian   By Golly, if I had to reload at a pre-Keep save to...   Apr 27 2007, 02:00 PM
thetruth   Re: increasing Imoen's Spellhold level, I thi...   Apr 27 2007, 02:41 PM
Sikret   The same problem of justification exists even for ...   Apr 27 2007, 02:30 PM
Magnus_025   For me it's a need to have Imoen a little more...   Apr 27 2007, 02:47 PM


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