Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] Options

[Domi]

BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"

The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously.

I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc

And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin).

In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM

[Baronius]

Exactly. I never said that you (or anyone else) shouldn't. I just said my own opinion. 

Then, perhaps, you might try to use the constructions like "I think", "In my opinion", as opposite to the "players need", "we want/do not want", "that should not/should be done". In other words, less "we", more "I". Then I won't be tempted to tell you: "You and what army?"

I used "we" in the meaning of "we, modders", I'm sure this has been clear from my posts. Feel free to tell what you feel, by the way. I don't have an army, but I do have many supporters in my viewpoint. From this aspect, the word "we" can also be understood as a reference to my "army", i.e. to those who share my opinion; which is correct.

But of course I take it personaly, because I gave examples of actually using rapes in my mods. Quite often, really. In your opinion, a real modder won't do that. Hence, I am not a real modder. On another hand, if I am a real modder (in your opinion), than you agree that a real modder can use rapes in his or her stories.

I didn't say you're not a real modder (which can't have an accurate definition anyway); but yes it's true that in this question (integrating that kind of violance to mods), you don't suit my picture of a real modder. I do have right to have an own opinion and picture of a modder.
But maybe I shouldn't examine your thoughts and opinion as the opinion of a modder (in the "strict" interpretation of the word), since you are mostly writing dialogues to my knowledge, which is only one part of modding, with less technical (file editing, complex scripts) work and much more writing work. So in this respect you're a dialogue writer primarily. (Dialogue writing is one of the most important parts of modding, so don't get me wrong: I said it is a part of modding only, but I didn't say it would be less important or less appreciated than other areas.)
And a dialogue writer has other motivations than a modder who creates the mod from the first brick to the last.

And believe me, hurting others can be veeeeeeery satisfying and therefore can be called "fun" .

Nonetheless Rabain may have a point there that the real personality and desires of villains might be much more complex than just a few bandits' who kill/rape/loot/humiliate/etc. people just for pure fun.