Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] Options

[Domi]

BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"

The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously.

I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc

And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin).

In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM

[Rabain]

Practically all of your post is a point of view that you hold and in no way true or false in one way or another. You can't say because nazi's thought they were cool they actually were cool, sure they might have been cool to themselves but not in the eyes of their victims.

2. <CHARNAME> isn't a normal person, it's a traumatised young man/woman that lives in constant danger and has tainted soul and has power, so I think that he/she is more prone to become a criminal than a common hero/citizen.

This is a point of view you have and not necessarily the point of view that nearly all players of BG would have. Most players do play good characters even if there were more evil options still most players I think would play good. How is <charname> traumatised? It doesn't say that anywhere in the game, the only bad thing that happens early in BG1 is that you are a witness to Gorions death...actually I don't think you even see Gorion being killed as you run away before that happens. Your life before that was a life of peace and plenty in Candlekeep. <charname> probably had a better childhood than most of the people raised on the Sword Coast, probably the one person without a traumatic childhood of all the npc's that you meet. If you choose to play as evil I sincerely doubt you can play the traumatic childhood card with any plausibility.

Therefore saying that rape is low because it touches higher emotions of victim than for example beating is contradictionary.

Sure it is contradictory but I didn't make a comparison between rape and beating I made a comparison between rape and murder. Misquoting me won't make what I said contradictory.

IMO staying alive and with all senses/limbs/organs relatively intact is a priority.

This statement has little meaning as we were discussing actually being raped or being murdered. You can't choose to stay alive if you are murdered. Likewise I am sure rape victims don't console themselves with the thought "at least I wasn't murdered".

Evil is cheap and dirty by definition and coolness and grandour of perpetuator doesn't make it less cheap and dirty.

This statement contradicts everything you just said. It is not the "coolness" of a character but the acts they commit, this is exactly what I have been saying all along.

It all depends on your point of view. If you have the point of view that evil characters can be "cool" and still commit murder and rape I would say that you are part of a small minority of the general population. The mainstream view would be that murderers and rapists are in no way cool and this is where I base my point of view from.