Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] Options

[Domi]

BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"

The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously.

I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc

And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin).

In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM

[Domi]

As I said before, the main point is to know that "being evil" doesn't entail "being dirty and cheap". The two are not the same.

Well, again, in the context of BG and BG alone, Bhaal used rape as means of achiving his goal - producing the Bhaalspawn.

And, I would nod to Sorrow that killing or maiming a guy who just happened to cross the street in the wrong place, does not appear grand to me also.


But, since we are getting to the "As I said before..." "Once again..." zone, it seems that all that there was to discuss was discussed in the possibility of rape department.

So, I would go the way of the political debates, and have a shor closing statement to outline my position, and avoid repeating things again and again in a question and answer form:

I don't think that it is arguable that rape was a common-place, tragic and scary event of Medieval and Renaissance reality and warfare. It is a henous crime, and with a 100% certainty pinpoints an evil character. Good guys just do not rape (Tyrion vs Tysha can be an arguable case, but then again, it had happened because of Tywin) As such, it appears in all genres and medias of fantasy (appart from children's cartoons, obviously) that are losely modelled on these historical periods.

The way I see the implementation of the subject in the computer games, I think it is at least admissible to do the same thing BioWARE is doing - making rape a part of both PC and NPCs backstories; I will not disagree with adding a few encounters in the game, where a PC can have his way with the NPCs and vice versa to produce emotional content and instill an understanding of the "how low can you go" in the player, give him/her the feel of his/her own RP'd vileness; I would obviously want to see not just mechanical (such as drop in a reputation) consequences to that behavoir, but dialogues/encounters as well.

Now, that is about as much, as I have to say on the topic.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 14 2006, 03:42 PM