Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] Options

[Domi]

BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"

The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously.

I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc

And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin).

In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM

[Domi]

In films about medieval age, do you always see the "evil" side (or just the "enemy") raping helpless people all the time?

The Gladiator had a dialogue discussing the rape of the main character's wife. Robin Hood Prince of Thieves has a rape scene. I am sure there are more, but I am not a movie kind of person, sorry.

It comes together with the war (in every age), but it is not so special that it should be represented, especially not in a D&D mod where evil player options can be much better, much more interesting than this.

Like say something rude or kill someone? That's about the extent of "evil" options.... (sigh)

I remember that someone (maybe it was you, I am not sure) said the she would make the mod exactly in the way she likes it even if no player would prefer it in that way at all, i.e. that players needs/requests/feedback are not important at all when developing, only what the author likes. I say yes to this, but then such a mod shouldn't be published.

The feedback/ideas/etc are fine, but the descision is ultimately the author's. And I don't understand why it *should not* be published? Especially the use of *should* . I think the author have the right to ultimately decide if s/he wants the feedback during the developmental stage or not, and if s/he wants to put the mod up for download or not. It is also the author's decsision on what to do with the mod after the release - to keep it up for download, discontinue it after a while, etc.

Dorotea's Long Road was done under the heavy stream of critisiszm, and strictly following her own ideas, with heavy editing on her part of everything that was not written by her, solely because she wanted the mod. It was published and proved to be one of the most interesting, unusual, love-or-hate mods. I think, it would have been a pity if she either kept it on her own hard-drive, or have compromized.

You took everything personal. (Not the first case.) I haven't written "a real modder (UNLIKE Domi)", I have written "a real modder" which means a "a real modder in my opinion". And I wasn't dividing anything, this "community" stuff is brought up by you. Don't take things always personal.

But of course I take it personaly, because I gave examples of actually using rapes in my mods. Quite often, really. In your opinion, a real modder won't do that. Hence, I am not a real modder. On another hand, if I am a real modder (in your opinion), than you agree that a real modder can use rapes in his or her stories.

Exactly. I never said that you (or anyone else) shouldn't. I just said my own opinion. 

Then, perhaps, you might try to use the constructions like "I think", "In my opinion", as opposite to the "players need", "we want/do not want", "that should not/should be done". In other words, less "we", more "I". Then I won't be tempted to tell you: "You and what army?"

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 14 2006, 02:55 AM