 Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] |
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 Jan 9 2006, 09:02 PM
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BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"
The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously. QUOTE I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin). In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done. This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM -------------------- Worry not about the arrow with your name on it, for there is but one. Instead, occupy yourself with the arrows addressed 'To Whom it May Concern'...
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Jan 13 2006, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Domi) An abandoned one, the Midnight Visitor, at G3. Oh  .QUOTE(Domi) It is an interesting point, but as far as I know, raping is rarely about lust, it is about control and power. I have to disagree here. I think that raping is more often about lust than about power. QUOTE(Domi) Kay's Fionavarian Tapestry -*higher* fantasy than Tolkien (if someone doubts Kay's credentials, he was retained by Tolkiien's estate after Tolkien's death to work on the literary heritage and one of the best fantasy writers today in his own right), if such thing is possible- makes a powerful use of rape as the way to drain goodness from one of the heroines; it is one of the scariest and revolting scenes in fantasy. Hmm... I have a thought  .I think that the problem of including or not including darker elements of reality is more about pure escapism vs. exploring another reality than about high fantasy vs. low fantasy. I think that some people want to escape reality by playing fantasy games and some poeple, like me want to explore another reality. This post has been edited by Sorrow: Jan 13 2006, 04:17 PM |
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Domi Profanity in mods Jan 9 2006, 09:02 PM
Sorrow I second that.
I hate cRPGs aimed for early teens... Jan 9 2006, 10:43 PM Rabain @Sorrow - Real world profanites detract from the g... Jan 9 2006, 11:24 PM Sorrow Profanity *is* neccesary, because it can be used t... Jan 10 2006, 12:29 AM Galactygon
To a certain extent, profanity is necessary to a... Jan 10 2006, 03:02 AM Rabain Give me an example of where profanity is used effe... Jan 10 2006, 08:48 AM Sorrow
Creators of the core game failed to use profanity... Jan 10 2006, 10:09 AM Domi Baldur's Gate/mods uses whore and whoreson qui... Jan 10 2006, 11:11 AM Rabain As I pointed out some profanities are acceptable o... Jan 10 2006, 02:52 PM Domi I was enjoying the discussion with Rabain, and we ... Jan 10 2006, 04:07 PM Baronius Split done. :)
Now, since we are in the appropria... Jan 10 2006, 04:18 PM Domi Found it! Was looking for it in the General Mo... Jan 10 2006, 05:03 PM kulyok It depends on the writer.
It very much depends on... Jan 10 2006, 05:24 PM Domi
Hmm, to be honest, I did long for f-word for Ire... Jan 10 2006, 06:13 PM Rabain The problem with modern swear words is that they h... Jan 10 2006, 06:44 PM Domi From Korgan or similar type, I would actually pref... Jan 10 2006, 07:23 PM Thauron When I read the original 'so far, sooooo good... Jan 10 2006, 08:11 PM Sorrow
I second that.
Personally I think that old prof... Jan 10 2006, 08:33 PM Domi
Yes, agreed.
Basically, I was thinking about th... Jan 10 2006, 08:54 PM Baronius
They may not have such impact, but the modern one... Jan 10 2006, 11:11 PM Sorrow I think that if PC is offended by profanities, she... Jan 11 2006, 12:32 PM Thauron I think profanities should fit in the setting firs... Jan 11 2006, 12:35 PM kulyok
Yeeeeees?
(You are really, really making such a... Jan 11 2006, 01:21 PM NiGHTMARE
I strongly disagree with that. The subject may h... Jan 11 2006, 01:25 PM Thauron
Well, I have been thinking about one such scene ... Jan 11 2006, 03:00 PM kulyok
Oh, yes - mods which employ open rape at the mom... Jan 11 2006, 03:28 PM Domi Reading Decameron, I was thinking that the society... Jan 11 2006, 05:13 PM jastey Domi: Who is Martin? Jan 11 2006, 06:13 PM Domi G.R.R. Martin is the best fantasy writer -though o... Jan 11 2006, 07:44 PM Sorrow
I think that sexual harassment would be very int... Jan 12 2006, 01:39 AM jastey
Including Aerie, I guess. Would you please take t... Jan 12 2006, 04:49 PM Rabain To be honest I don't think you could do rape i... Jan 12 2006, 05:40 PM Domi You can probably do an option that summarily allow... Jan 12 2006, 06:38 PM Thauron I don't believe inlcuding rape as an option fo... Jan 12 2006, 08:00 PM Domi I did not mean it as an attack, but I feel that it... Jan 12 2006, 08:40 PM Thauron
But is the same scene not as effective when you ... Jan 12 2006, 09:03 PM Domi Re: Sarevok/Iernicus - the footwork is usually res... Jan 12 2006, 09:20 PM Rabain In order to truly represent evil you would have to... Jan 12 2006, 09:27 PM Domi Then let him step in! Just don't give him ... Jan 12 2006, 09:31 PM Rabain You could create a mod that does that yes but to w... Jan 12 2006, 09:45 PM Sorrow
So, if male is raped by a woman or other male it... Jan 12 2006, 09:48 PM jastey
I didn't say it's perfectly OK. I said I ... Jan 12 2006, 09:59 PM Domi
Let me try to explain it this way - I have no pr... Jan 12 2006, 10:00 PM Domi
His wife, Arwen's and her twin brother mothe... Jan 12 2006, 10:06 PM Sorrow This is sick, sorry. [/quote]
Why? Jan 12 2006, 10:11 PM Rabain You cannot have it both ways, which is essentially... Jan 12 2006, 10:31 PM Sorrow
I don't think it would make a big difference... Jan 12 2006, 11:14 PM Domi
Indeed. I will always speak against indulgence, ... Jan 12 2006, 11:34 PM Baronius Adding rape to a game might be tempting because yo... Jan 12 2006, 11:58 PM Domi
Excuse me? I worked on BG1NPC solely for my own ... Jan 13 2006, 03:16 AM Sikret In my opinion, Evil creatures are of different sor... Jan 13 2006, 04:01 AM Sorrow
Boo was killed? PC was raped?
Sounds interesting... Jan 13 2006, 12:56 PM Domi
An abandoned one, the Midnight Visitor, at G3. P... Jan 13 2006, 02:08 PM Domi
I am not sure if I like the term "escapism... Jan 13 2006, 04:29 PM Rabain Can we move off the topic of rape now? I think th... Jan 13 2006, 05:04 PM Domi I think we are already off rape into the "Wha... Jan 13 2006, 06:08 PM Rabain Escapism to me has two aspects, they can be separa... Jan 13 2006, 06:31 PM Domi
I am not sure where you are taking the idea that... Jan 13 2006, 06:56 PM Rabain I was talking about dark fantasies in your mind, n... Jan 13 2006, 07:03 PM Domi
Then I don't understand how that can be legi... Jan 13 2006, 07:35 PM Sorrow Dark fantasy of some persons mind who thinks about... Jan 13 2006, 07:44 PM kulyok
What is wrong with it? Ss long as they do not ac... Jan 13 2006, 08:00 PM Domi I think he probably meant dreaming of the activiti... Jan 13 2006, 08:20 PM Rabain The topic was escapism, I stated what I consider e... Jan 13 2006, 08:31 PM Baronius Excuse me? I worked on BG1NPC solely for my own en... Jan 13 2006, 10:56 PM Sorrow
Actually I was talking about a small TC and a TC ... Jan 14 2006, 01:22 AM Domi
The Gladiator had a dialogue discussing the rape... Jan 14 2006, 02:45 AM Sikret As I said before, the main point is to know that ... Jan 14 2006, 06:06 AM Sorrow Death is dirtier and cheaper than rape.
Especially... Jan 14 2006, 02:04 PM Rabain None of which you are going to simulate with any s... Jan 14 2006, 02:28 PM Sorrow I'm just pointing out that words noble or gran... Jan 14 2006, 03:02 PM Domi
Well, again, in the context of BG and BG alone, ... Jan 14 2006, 03:42 PM Rabain And pretty much the only way of adding these optio... Jan 14 2006, 03:45 PM Sorrow
I think that there are two reasons to introduce ... Jan 14 2006, 05:08 PM Rabain Practically all of your post is a point of view th... Jan 14 2006, 05:51 PM Sikret Perhaps an example can be helpful here:
"Vil... Jan 14 2006, 06:07 PM Sorrow Villain A plainly stupid.
1. She doesn't respe... Jan 14 2006, 07:28 PM Rabain
That is pure fantasy on your behalf. Evil could ... Jan 14 2006, 08:01 PM Sorrow
That is pure fantasy on your behalf. Evil could ... Jan 14 2006, 09:48 PM Baronius
I didn't say you're not a real modder (wh... Jan 14 2006, 11:57 PM Rabain My point was that you assumed it was fun when you ... Jan 15 2006, 01:19 AM Sir-Kill There 254 distinguished shades of gray between bla... Jan 15 2006, 03:15 AM Baronius
You are right here. Also, when I said that a mod ... Jan 15 2006, 03:50 PM Sorrow
Yes, but becoming an embodiment of evil may also... Jan 15 2006, 04:21 PM Domi Gods be good, Sorrow, you just have to get A Song ... Jan 16 2006, 04:30 PM
Sorrow I will get them as soon as I'll pay penalty fo... Jan 16 2006, 06:45 PM |
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