Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] Options

[Domi]

BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"

The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously.

I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc

And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin).

In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM

[Domi]

Boo was killed? PC was raped?
Sounds interesting.
What mod are you speaking about?

An abandoned one, the Midnight Visitor, at G3. PC did not have to be raped, she could have defeated the male in question long before it came to that, or enforced her "no" in that talk, if her willpower was sufficiently high, or she could have been extatic about bedding the man to begin with.

There is also one (perhaps controversial) side point which deserves consideration. Being the slave of one's own sexual desires makes it too difficult for a character to gain great powers. Power calls for discipline and self-control. I cannot imagine a very high level character whose hands and knees start trembling on seeing the opposite sex. High level characters need to have focus and self-control and avoid cheap manners, in my opinion.

As for making a mod in which an evil PC will be given opportunities to rape others and to act cheaply:

1- Such a mod will give the PC the chance to be a cheap character. The PC should also be allowed to avoid those opportunities and to aim for being a great evil character. Perhaps, each time the PC behaves cheaply some penalty to experience points should be applied, to insure that progress needs focus and discipline and a man with sexual lust is hardly a choice for becoming great in his career even as a evil character.

It is an interesting point, but as far as I know, raping is rarely about lust, it is about control and power. Kay's Fionavarian Tapestry -*higher* fantasy than Tolkien (if someone doubts Kay's credentials, he was retained by Tolkiien's estate after Tolkien's death to work on the literary heritage and one of the best fantasy writers today in his own right), if such thing is possible- makes a powerful use of rape as the way to drain goodness from one of the heroines; it is one of the scariest and revolting scenes in fantasy.

In Baldur's Gate PC, the situation is also unique, because by raping PC might acertain his connection to his sire, Bhaal, who concieved the Children by raping women of all races accross Faerun. So, in a way, the dark power can build up in him through such despicable acts.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 13 2006, 02:09 PM