Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] Options

[Domi]

BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"

The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously.

I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc

And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin).

In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM

[Sorrow]

(by the way, where will you make it end. It doens't take the PC too long to become so powerful that he might be able to rape anyone he wants - are you going to include additional options for every female in the game then, from peasants to NPCs?)

So, if male is raped by a woman or other male it isn't rape?

I think stealing, hurting, and killing innocents, looting tombs and betraying people who trust is enough for <CHARNAME> to act out her feelings of ill mindedness without the need of diving into the deep, dark area of sexual harassement. The latter is much too real to be included into this fantasy game, thank you very much.

I think that the deep, dark area of sexual harassement is more interesting than gutting people and smashing their heads and being stabbed and slashed with sharp objects if one looks at it from a right perspective.
Of course having PC succesfully raped or harassed is bad, but having PC succesfully rape someone is good (Kali's morality in working ).

Also, I find topic of murder, thievery and having trust betrayed as real as rape and frankly, I would prefer to play game where PC is rapist than to play a game where PC is attacked by assasins and other unkind people that want to hurt her.
The latter is much too real to be included into this fantasy game .

The thing is, that evil deeds have ridiculously little psycological consequence in Baldur's Gate. I was walking around, my reputation 5, SHar-Teel scowling from behind my back, and nobody cared that I killed out of spite from time to time; nobody accused me of killing/raping/mutilating their mother/father/brother whatever and brought the guard, or called for the city to burn me. Duke does not know about your bad fame, you are scolded and jailed for killing Rieltar, when you should have probably be called to justice way before that...

That part of the game sucks. Sometimes I think that they made this game for feeblehearted goody-goodies.
Abominable lack of psychological realism made me hate that game.
I liked Fallout 2 a lot more, because it was a lot harder to become a shining goody goody from frenzied berzerker childkiller.

What annoys me when I try to play an evil NPC - but if he makes Beregost he's lucky, they tend to annoy me sooo fast - just because all the evil options Bioware has given are so totally devoid of meaning or purpose. Playing an evil PC eventually always means playing some contradictory, unbelievable lunatic - acting evil but constantly fulfilling good quests. Rape would only add to that immensely.
So rape, no thanx.

I disagree.
I think that adding rape would allow evil PCs an option of doing something evil without getting into the absurdal mass murderer cliche.