Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] Options

[Domi]

BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"

The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously.

I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc

And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin).

In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM

[Domi]

Reading Decameron, I was thinking that the society was obssessed with sexual topics and references in quite the same way in Real World. I was reading that Medici's book lately, and not only it gave me an impression of free morales, where males were concerned -it was normal to keep a pleasure slave girl, and have the bastards raised in the household with the true-borns- but the amount of children fathered per male, ye gods! Eight true-borns and thirteen known bastards.... And that's on sickly males too.... There is just absolutely no way that there were no overt sexual references in the conversations. I think it was Lorenzo himself, or some of the early Medicis who was renown for his bawdy songs. Why, if I remeber correctly, Cezare wrote boasting about six trips he made on his wedding night...

FR is an Americain franchise marketed for teen audience, and we all know that US is quite puritanistic in general. We had it out of Greenwood's own mouth that he was heavily cenzored, with the ridiculous substitutions such as festhalls instead of brothels...

~Oh yes, that pig is down there. The son of a b**ch got himself hurt too. But what the f**k, why should I care about such a brat. Now p*ss off, pathetic peasants.~

~Oh yes, your son is down there. Got himself hurt quite badly too. If you are quick you might still watch him die though, he was still twitching a bit when we left.~

Hmmm, those two are not equivalents, actually. First conveys the "I don't give a damn" attitude of a brawny huge guy, you've bumped into while making your way around the inn, second is solicitous and shows that the character actually enjoyed the show, and expects the others to do so too; I would expect the second to speak up to the PC, while the first answers. If they were both PC options, I would not mind having both to chose from.

In RL there is little I have less patience for than gratuit profanity and uncalled-for rudeness, so you're NPC might go down the drain rather fast on my comp., unless you give him a very good reason to talk like that, a good background story and/or interesting side-quests and write him/her very well. But if the profanity is overdone and gets on my nerves, even that might not save him.

Sorry, cannot help but smile at "gratuit", was listening to Martin yesterday, and he was talking a bit about "gratuit" questions that are asked of him (Not many people object to graruit feasting... ) anyways, I am digressing. And yes, the NPC does have more to him than swearing to it.

Oh, yes - mods which employ open rape at the moment do it rather clumsy, to my mind - and I doubt there's any real need for it in BG. The original story is excellent in this regard - and it only got hints. Just look at "Did Irenicus rape Imoen?" thread.

Rape is a common crime though, and always comes in package with wars... One of the things, I would not have minded is a bit more actions after the fall of Saradush for the PC who'd like to actually save someone, and succeed in a few case; that he will see those he could not save, etc, instead of just Mellissan showing up and summarizing it for him in a couple of sentences.