Profanity in mods, [split by Baronius; Domi's request] Options

[Domi]

BG1 is a PG13 game, so the developper to start with did not intend it for children. There are characters in BG1 that say stuff like "Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?"

The mods/mods components are sometimes rated as well (for example some of BG1NPC Romances are rated R for language or adult situations), while the mod itself is the same as the game, to avoid embaracing the selective players. It will be nice, if people used the rating system more vigorously.

I guess this is why most sci-fi/fantasy tv creates new profanities - frac, frell etc

And that is why the authors who have guts to carter to adult audience and have no pangs of guilt about it, read so real and have their own appreciative following. (Points to Martin).

In other words, do what you feel is right, just warn the consummer about it. I always make a point of explaining that Martin is gritty, uses the obscenities and does not draw curtains when his characters decided to make love, when I recommend his books. Yes, I love what he does. No, I don't expect everyone to agree with me that it is how it should be done.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 9 2006, 09:03 PM

[Domi]

Basically, I feel any word is appropriate - if the situation demands it (emotional outburst) and if the situation allows it (the setting is not romantic, it is not a major game path.)

Hmm, to be honest, I did long for f-word for Irenicus when he shows up for the third time and starts his tirade. Honestly, that was summarizing my feelings at that point adequately, and yep, I did have protagonists to fit the bill.

Also, character's traits must be accounted for: if one moment, she speaks like: " Although I would imagine everything else was... you always were a rather rampant one." and next moment "Fuck it then kill it" (Fade romance) it doesn't sound terribly convincing to me.

That's a tough one, actually. I have no trouble believing that highly educated and well-mannered people go rough in the field.

I have seen it, having worked in the oil fields. And once you spend months with the roughnecks who use f*ck as a noun, verb, adjective, adverb, and every other grammar form, and replace at will pretty much every other word with it (the joke is that F**in' is the supplier of all the oil-field equipment) it takes time to santize your own speech. In other words, I have no trouble beliving neither tha talk about the stars, no coarsest language possible in the field situation. Have seen both.

Then, there is a persistent joke, that noble ladies always demonstrate a surprisingly good knowledge of vulgur language, and can make a fisherman blush. It has a shocking value, it is easy to do, it's exciting. It will work for me, if done right. For example that lady who is a kidnapping victim or Lady Delcia...

One idea I had for MV was the corrupted Imoen/Korgan duo (as Korgan and Imoen had a competition of sorts who can shock/disgust more people) shocking Nalia with vulgarisms, till the corrupted Nalia responds in kind and makes Korgan almost cry.

On another hand, a commoner who tried for a while to emulate the ways of the nobles, can slide back into the patterns of his.her childhood with ease when upset. Again, a good point of the character dev.

In the original game, the swearing there got style. ""Will one of you rugged adventurers give me a good, hard shag?" - it's got a _look_. Now, on the other hand, "Hey, babe, let's f---!" is *yawn* outdated.

Oh, I agree here. It is not a coincedence, that Korgan - at least in my humble opinion - is the most difficult NPC to capture. He is vulgar, well-spoken and smart at the same time. And funny to boot. But, those are memorable characters. What do you expect to hear when you open the door into this cave that has the imprisoned gnolls in the bandit camp?

Anyways, I think, I wrote all this just because its fun to think of the stuff like that (call me weird) but I do agree with you on the main idea - it goes when it goes well, and works. I only think that a mod needs to be rated, to make sure people don't get surprised.

This post has been edited by Domi: Jan 10 2006, 06:14 PM