 Tactic of Old Hungarians, [topic split by Baronius] |
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 Aug 12 2008, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(Baronius @ Aug 11 2008, 08:42 PM)  And did they use the same tactic too?  I.e. attacking (obviously on horses, if someone might not know), then pretending retreat, and while enemies are chasing us, shooting arrows backward (and defeating them). It's hard to estimate (at least for a non-historian like myself) how many "battles" we won with this tactic (we practically pillaged through half Europe), though the German armoured knights taught us a lesson in 955 during the battle of Augsburg (Lechfeld).It seems to be one of these "natural strategies", actually - the kind of thing that you invent if you've got lots of light cavalry and good archers. The Mongols did it a lot in the 1200s, in Europe and Asia, and basically walked all over the European armies. In fact, I think the same basic technique gets used in tank warfare - both Rommel and George Patton are supposed to have studied Genghis Khan's strategy. |
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Aug 12 2008, 05:09 PM
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 Master of energies  Council Member Posts: 3324 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Magyarország |
Of course, it isn't something unique to Hungarians, but we were a typical example (before the Kingdom was estabilished).
QUOTE and basically walked all over the European armies I don't think this is correct, they didn't/couldn't "visit" Western Europe at all, for example. -------------------- Mental harmony dispels the darkness.
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Aug 12 2008, 05:45 PM
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I believe the Parthians also used that running away tactic with their horse archers.
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Aug 12 2008, 06:06 PM
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Master of energies Council Member Posts: 3324 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Magyarország |
You are right. It seems that the name "Parthian shot" exactly refers to this tactic.
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Aug 12 2008, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(Baronius @ Aug 12 2008, 06:09 PM) Of course, it isn't something unique to Hungarians, but we were a typical example (before the Kingdom was estabilished). QUOTE and basically walked all over the European armies I don't think this is correct, they didn't/couldn't "visit" Western Europe at all, for example. That's true, but there were a couple of western armies that were sent eastward to confront the Mongols and got wiped out. There was a fairly extensive period where western Europe was just waiting for a Mongol invasion, and everyone thought it was the end of the world, etc, etc. It seems to be that the reason they pulled back was the then leader (whose name escapes me, but it was Genghis's successor) died and they had to go back and deal with the succession. (This is an old lay interest of mine from ten years ago and I'm quoting from memory, so it might all be nonsense.) |
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