BGT and BigMods Compatibility Options

[Koriatus]

What about compatibility IAv3 with this mods?
BGT v 1.03
BGT Tweak pack

Secret of Bone Hill for BGT
Northern Tales of the Sword Coast for BGT
Dark Side of the Sword Coast for BGT
Region of Terror

especially with BGT

Big thanks for this mod!

[Sikret]

I don't know much about BGT. Its compatibility with IA is not tested as far as I can say. If you can provide links to the readme files of the mods you mentioned, I may be able to give a better reply.

In general, changes applied to BG1 (by other mods) will not have any conflict with IA. Improved Anvil is a mod for BG2 (+TOB) and has nothing to do with BG1.

Cheers

[Koriatus]

Here some information about BGT. May be it will be enough:

General readme: http://america.iegmc.net/bgt-weidu/BGTReadme.htm

Compatibility issue: http://forums.spellholdstudios.net/index.php?showtopic=19539
(for version 1.02f - but i think that it`s not big differets between 1.02 and 1.03)

I`m asking about compatibility becase "BGT-WeiDU is partially compatible with
-Ascension 1.42.1 or above
Needs to be installed before BGT-WeiDU if 'Tougher Illasera' component is used, since AR4000.BCS is replaced, resulting in all the BG1 dream cutscenes occurring at rest in a Throne of Bhaal game"

Mabe IA makes something same? (replace some usefull *.bcs or other resources)

P.S. Sorry for my English mistakes (i`m from Russia)

[Sikret]

I checked the readme very quickly (I'm currently busy with preparing the new version of IA and prefer to spend my free time on working on the mod) and found two potential problems:

BGT-WeiDU alters a large number of references inside your Baldur’s Gate II dialog.tlk file.

This may cause problems because IA uses some of the game's original stringrefs and they should not have been changed by other mods.

For Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal, it is advisable that you install BGT-WeiDU as the first modification if you do not plan to install the mega-modification with it

Improved Anvil requires Baldurdash TOB fixpack v1.12 (it should be installed after TOB official patch) which is normally installed before any WeiDu mods.

There may be more problems but finding them requires more time and more detailed information about what BGT does.

[Chev]

For Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal, it is advisable that you install BGT-WeiDU as the first modification if you do not plan to install the mega-modification with it

Really, you should install the fixpack or Baldurdash before BGT. So this should not be a problem.

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BGT-WeiDU alters a large number of references inside your Baldur’s Gate II dialog.tlk file.



This may cause problems because IA uses some of the game's original stringrefs and they should not have been changed by other mods.

This might, just try to install IA before BGT.

[Sikret]

If BGT alters stringrefs, it will cause problems regardless of the order of installation. Moreover, IA should be installed late, while BGT should be installed early, so IA can't be installed before BGT even if it could solve the stringref issue.

[Koriatus]

Ok. May be it will be interesting for all of you.

Here http://forums.spellholdstudios.net/index.p...ost&id=4409 is a WiDU log of megainstallation of differenr mods (big and small).

The information about compatibility of this mods you can read here
http://forums.spellholdstudios.net/index.p...=22224&st=0

In the log you can see that here are situated some components of Improved Asylym, Ascencion, Tactics, Sword Coast Strategments.

I think it will be VERY INTRESTING to play all this BIG modification (BG1+BG2+TOB+above all big mods+and tactics improvements)with IA.(becase of very intelligent system of AI improvements in your mod Sikret).

And of case it will be good to give freedom for hardcore players not to play with item upgrades from your mod. And makes stuff not so powerfull.For example i never use item upgrades mods.

That`s why I will ask you to think about adaptation your future mod IAv4 for BGT and other mods from this list. I think it will be very interesting, and if you will have time may be you can do it?

SORRY FOR POOR English.

This post has been edited by Koriatus: Feb 9 2007, 11:59 AM

[pro5]

Here's a list of all STRING_SETs from BGT tp2. I doubt any of them could cause trouble with any existing bg2 mod.

CODE

//////////////////////
// Imoen sound changes
//////////////////////

STRING_SET ~4329~ @4329
STRING_SET ~4331~ @4331
STRING_SET ~4332~ @4332
STRING_SET ~4334~ @4334
STRING_SET ~4341~ @4341
STRING_SET ~11041~ @11041
STRING_SET ~4340~ @4340

//////////////////////
// Edwin sound changes
//////////////////////

STRING_SET ~3987~ @3987
STRING_SET ~3988~ @3988
STRING_SET ~3989~ @3989
STRING_SET ~3990~ @3990
STRING_SET ~3996~ @3996
STRING_SET ~3998~ @3998
STRING_SET ~3999~ @3999
STRING_SET ~4001~ @4001
STRING_SET ~4002~ @4002
STRING_SET ~4003~ @4003
STRING_SET ~4005~ @4005
STRING_SET ~4006~ @4006

//////////////////////
// Minsc sound changes
//////////////////////

STRING_SET ~4084~ @4084
STRING_SET ~4085~ @4085
STRING_SET ~4102~ @4102
STRING_SET ~4103~ @4103
STRING_SET ~4105~ @4105
STRING_SET ~4106~ @4106
STRING_SET ~4108~ @4108
STRING_SET ~4109~ @4109
STRING_SET ~4110~ @4110
STRING_SET ~4111~ @4111
STRING_SET ~4112~ @4112
STRING_SET ~4113~ @4113
STRING_SET ~4114~ @4114
STRING_SET ~4115~ @4115
STRING_SET ~4116~ @4116
STRING_SET ~4117~ @4117
STRING_SET ~4118~ @4118
STRING_SET ~4119~ @4119
STRING_SET ~4120~ @4120

////////////////////////
// Viconia sound changes
////////////////////////

STRING_SET ~3612~ @3612
STRING_SET ~3637~ @3637

//////////////////////
// Other sound changes
//////////////////////

//Black Lily -- BLACK## to BLACKL##
STRING_SET ~4798~ @4798
STRING_SET ~4799~ @4799
STRING_SET ~12493~ @12493
STRING_SET ~12494~ @12494

//Priestess of Umberlee -- UMBER## (actually no sound in BG2) to PUMBER##
STRING_SET ~4973~ @4973
STRING_SET ~4975~ @4975
STRING_SET ~5467~ @5467
STRING_SET ~5468~ @5468
STRING_SET ~12600~ @12600
STRING_SET ~12601~ @12601

///////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Soundsets: Incorrect sound entry/No entry at all
///////////////////////////////////////////////////

STRING_SET ~3437~ @3437
STRING_SET ~3665~ @3665
STRING_SET ~4898~ @4898
STRING_SET ~4986~ @4986
STRING_SET ~11109~ @11109
STRING_SET ~11618~ @11618
STRING_SET ~11725~ @11725
STRING_SET ~11856~ @11856
STRING_SET ~23804~ @23804
STRING_SET ~23805~ @23805
STRING_SET ~23806~ @23806
STRING_SET ~23807~ @23807
STRING_SET ~23808~ @23808
STRING_SET ~23814~ @23814
STRING_SET ~23815~ @23815
STRING_SET ~23816~ @23816
STRING_SET ~23817~ @23817
STRING_SET ~23818~ @23818
STRING_SET ~23819~ @23819
STRING_SET ~23820~ @23820
STRING_SET ~23822~ @23822
STRING_SET ~23823~ @23823
STRING_SET ~23824~ @23824
STRING_SET ~23825~ @23825
STRING_SET ~23826~ @23826
STRING_SET ~23827~ @23827
STRING_SET ~23828~ @23828
STRING_SET ~23829~ @23829
STRING_SET ~23830~ @23830
STRING_SET ~23831~ @23831
STRING_SET ~23832~ @23832
STRING_SET ~23833~ @23833
STRING_SET ~23834~ @23834
STRING_SET ~23835~ @23835
STRING_SET ~23836~ @23836
STRING_SET ~23837~ @23837
STRING_SET ~23840~ @23840
STRING_SET ~23841~ @23841
STRING_SET ~23842~ @23842
STRING_SET ~23843~ @23843
STRING_SET ~23844~ @23844
STRING_SET ~23846~ @23846
STRING_SET ~23847~ @23847
STRING_SET ~23848~ @23848
STRING_SET ~23849~ @23849
STRING_SET ~23850~ @23850
STRING_SET ~23852~ @23852
STRING_SET ~23853~ @23853
STRING_SET ~23854~ @23854
STRING_SET ~23855~ @23855
STRING_SET ~23856~ @23856
STRING_SET ~23857~ @23857
STRING_SET ~23858~ @23858
STRING_SET ~23859~ @23859
STRING_SET ~23860~ @23860
STRING_SET ~23861~ @23861
STRING_SET ~23862~ @23862
STRING_SET ~23863~ @23863
STRING_SET ~23864~ @23864
STRING_SET ~23865~ @23865
STRING_SET ~23866~ @23866
STRING_SET ~23867~ @23867
STRING_SET ~23868~ @23868
STRING_SET ~23870~ @23870
STRING_SET ~23871~ @23871
STRING_SET ~23872~ @23872
STRING_SET ~23873~ @23873
STRING_SET ~23880~ @23880
STRING_SET ~23881~ @23881
STRING_SET ~23882~ @23882
STRING_SET ~23883~ @23883
STRING_SET ~23884~ @23884
STRING_SET ~23885~ @23885
STRING_SET ~23886~ @23886
STRING_SET ~23888~ @23888
STRING_SET ~23889~ @23889
STRING_SET ~23890~ @23890
STRING_SET ~23891~ @23891
STRING_SET ~23892~ @23892
STRING_SET ~23893~ @23893
STRING_SET ~23894~ @23894
STRING_SET ~23895~ @23895
STRING_SET ~23896~ @23896
STRING_SET ~23897~ @23897
STRING_SET ~23898~ @23898
STRING_SET ~23899~ @23899
STRING_SET ~23900~ @23900
STRING_SET ~23901~ @23901
STRING_SET ~23902~ @23902
STRING_SET ~23903~ @23903
STRING_SET ~23904~ @23904
STRING_SET ~23905~ @23905
STRING_SET ~23907~ @23907
STRING_SET ~23908~ @23908
STRING_SET ~23909~ @23909
STRING_SET ~23910~ @23910
STRING_SET ~23911~ @23911
STRING_SET ~23912~ @23912
STRING_SET ~23913~ @23913
STRING_SET ~23914~ @23914
STRING_SET ~23915~ @23915
STRING_SET ~23916~ @23916
STRING_SET ~23918~ @23918
STRING_SET ~23919~ @23919
STRING_SET ~23920~ @23920
STRING_SET ~23921~ @23921
STRING_SET ~23922~ @23922
STRING_SET ~23924~ @23924
STRING_SET ~23925~ @23925
STRING_SET ~23926~ @23926
STRING_SET ~23927~ @23927
STRING_SET ~23928~ @23928
STRING_SET ~23929~ @23929
STRING_SET ~23930~ @23930
STRING_SET ~23931~ @23931
STRING_SET ~23932~ @23932
STRING_SET ~23933~ @23933
STRING_SET ~23934~ @23934
STRING_SET ~23935~ @23935
STRING_SET ~23936~ @23936
STRING_SET ~23937~ @23937
STRING_SET ~23938~ @23938
STRING_SET ~23939~ @23939
STRING_SET ~23944~ @23944
STRING_SET ~23945~ @23945
STRING_SET ~23946~ @23946
STRING_SET ~23947~ @23947
STRING_SET ~23948~ @23948
STRING_SET ~23949~ @23949
STRING_SET ~23987~ @23987
STRING_SET ~23988~ @23988
STRING_SET ~23989~ @23989
STRING_SET ~23990~ @23990
STRING_SET ~23991~ @23991
STRING_SET ~23992~ @23992
STRING_SET ~23993~ @23993
STRING_SET ~23994~ @23994
STRING_SET ~23995~ @23995
STRING_SET ~23996~ @23996
//cannot do these three since they overwrite Mazzy strings
//STRING_SET ~24002~ @24002
//STRING_SET ~24003~ @24003
//STRING_SET ~24004~ @24004

/////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Soundset: Biography additions to empty strings
/////////////////////////////////////////////////

STRING_SET ~10171~ @10171
STRING_SET ~10172~ @10172
STRING_SET ~10181~ @10181
STRING_SET ~10183~ @10183
STRING_SET ~10192~ @10192
STRING_SET ~10195~ @10195
STRING_SET ~10196~ @10196
STRING_SET ~10197~ @10197
STRING_SET ~10198~ @10198
STRING_SET ~10200~ @10200
STRING_SET ~10201~ @10201
STRING_SET ~10202~ @10202
STRING_SET ~10204~ @10204
STRING_SET ~10207~ @10207
STRING_SET ~10208~ @10208
STRING_SET ~10213~ @10213
STRING_SET ~10214~ @10214
STRING_SET ~10215~ @10215

///////////////////
// GUI text changes
///////////////////

STRING_SET ~33093~ @900039  /* Changes TUTORIAL button */
STRING_SET ~44200~ @900040  /* Changes message after clicking TUTORIAL button */
STRING_SET ~73247~ @900042  /* Changes SHADOWS OF AMN button at the start screen */
STRING_SET ~73245~ @123456789 USING ~BGT/title.tra~

////////////////////////////
// Chapters: Textscreen text
////////////////////////////

//STRING_SET ~11898~ Exists:'The dawn is especially cool...'
//STRING_SET ~11899~ Exists:'You will not last long...'
STRING_SET ~15836~ @15836
STRING_SET ~15837~ @15837
STRING_SET ~15838~ @15838
//STRING_SET ~15839~ Exists:'You have dealt a great blow...'
STRING_SET ~15840~ @15840
STRING_SET ~15841~ @15841
//STRING_SET ~15879~ See foreign language compatibility section
//STRING_SET ~15880~ See foreign language compatibility section
STRING_SET ~15896~ @15896
STRING_SET ~15898~ @15898
STRING_SET ~16190~ @16190
STRING_SET ~16214~ @16214 /* Welcome to Candlekeep text */

//////////////////////////
// Dreams: Textscreen text
//////////////////////////

STRING_SET ~19267~ @19267
STRING_SET ~19268~ @19268
STRING_SET ~19269~ @19269
STRING_SET ~19270~ @19270
STRING_SET ~19271~ @19271
STRING_SET ~19273~ @19273
STRING_SET ~19274~ @19274
STRING_SET ~19275~ @19275
STRING_SET ~19276~ @19276
STRING_SET ~19278~ @19278
STRING_SET ~19279~ @19279
STRING_SET ~19280~ @19280

////////////////////////
// Miscellaneous changes
////////////////////////

STRING_SET ~23809~ @23809 /* Die! + sound */
STRING_SET ~23810~ @23810 /* Stun! + sound */
STRING_SET ~23811~ @23811 /* Pain! + sound */
STRING_SET ~23812~ @23812 /* Fear! + sound */
STRING_SET ~23972~ @23972 /* Crypt Crawler Name 1 */
STRING_SET ~23973~ @23973 /* Crypt Crawler Name 2 */

/////////////////////////////////
// Foreign language compatibility
/////////////////////////////////

ACTION_IF
  (( ~%LANGUAGE%~ STRING_COMPARE_CASE ~English~ ) = 0) OR
  (( ~%LANGUAGE%~ STRING_COMPARE_CASE ~International~ ) = 0) OR
  (( ~%LANGUAGE%~ STRING_COMPARE_CASE ~Polish~ ) = 0) OR
  (( ~%LANGUAGE%~ STRING_COMPARE_CASE ~Korean~ ) = 0) OR
  (( ~%LANGUAGE%~ STRING_COMPARE_CASE ~Russian~ ) = 0) OR
  (( ~%LANGUAGE%~ STRING_COMPARE_CASE ~Italian~ ) = 0)
THEN BEGIN
  STRING_SET ~15879~ @15879
  STRING_SET ~15880~ @15880
END

ACTION_IF
  ( ~%LANGUAGE%~ STRING_COMPARE_CASE ~French~ ) = 0
THEN BEGIN
  STRING_SET ~10898~ @10898 //Warder
  STRING_SET ~11026~ @11026 //Warder
  STRING_SET ~15879~ @300000
  STRING_SET ~15880~ @300001
  COPY ~Input~ ~BGTFrench~ //for EndSetup.bat to check
END

ACTION_IF
  ( ~%LANGUAGE%~ STRING_COMPARE_CASE ~German~ ) = 0
THEN BEGIN
  STRING_SET ~15879~ @300000
  STRING_SET ~15880~ @300001
  STRING_SET ~8918~ @300029
  COPY ~Input~ ~BGTGerman~ //for EndSetup.bat to check
END

STRING_SET ~7350~ @7350 //correct Long Bow of Marksmanship identified description
STRING_SET ~7351~ @7351 //correct Eagle Bow identified description

STRING_SET ~12874~ @12874 //"Oberan" -> "Oberon"
STRING_SET ~12850~ @12850 //"Oberan" -> "Oberon"

[kilolima2]

Just a thought:

I'm currently running BGT in a BG1 portion of the game. I think the safest thing to do is after finishing BG1 remove BGT and do a fresh install of BG2, just to avoid any mod screw-ups.

[pro5]

I think the safest thing to do is after finishing BG1 remove BGT and do a fresh install of BG2, just to avoid any mod screw-ups.

Then you'd be better off playing Tutu instead of BGT.

[kilolima2]

Then you'd be better off playing Tutu instead of BGT.

not to feed the troll, but I tried tutu first and didn't like the install complications, or the ambiguity between easy-tutu or regular tutu. BGT works very well and anyways they're more or less the same... and maybe one fine day they will be combined.

[Anomaly]

Then you'd be better off playing Tutu instead of BGT.

not to feed the troll, but I tried tutu first and didn't like the install complications, or the ambiguity between easy-tutu or regular tutu. BGT works very well and anyways they're more or less the same... and maybe one fine day they will be combined.

I agree. Moreover, BGT-WeiDU is widely translated whereas EasyTutu is English only. BGT-WeiDU is an excellent mod and it makes sense to play with it even for the BG1 part only. I heartily recommend it.

[pro5]

Hey, you don't need to convince me play BGT, I'm already playing it and that's not going to change anytime soon.

I just don't see any sense in using it the way it was never meant to be used. Uninstalling it (before or after transition, regardless) is likely to screw up some things for you, I wouldn't recommend it. Actually I wouldn't recommend uninstalling/reinstalling anything on the game in progress, unless you're forced to do it by a serious problem in your game.

So far, there's been no evidence anything will go wrong if you use BGT and IA together, so go for it if you want. Problems brought up by Sikret are of potential kind, and I suspect they'll remain such. The modified strrefs are for the most part unused remnants from BG1 dialog.tlk. The recommendation to install first has been redundant for some time, as BGT is now widely installed after BG2 Fixpack and several huge BG2 mods.

As for Tutu, there are no install complications if you use EasyTutu. There are reasons why I prefer BGT over Tutu, but more complicated installation on the latter is hardly one of them.

[kilolima2]

Pro5,

rather than take the chance of BG2/IA messing with BGT, I will re-install just BG2/TOB and then shadowkeeper my pc and npcs to reflect their stats/exp/etc at the end of BG1.

Does BGT allow you to keep bg1 items through Irenicus' dungeon? Otherwise I figured I'd put them into Ribald's inventory or bring in Thalan (the item-creation mod for bg1) somewhere in bg2. Is there anything else that needs to be preserved for continuity's sake between BG 1 and 2?

cheers,

kilolima

[Anomaly]

BGT does import some items (such as Koveras Ring - you should REALLY keep it *hint*, or the Kalgaroth Horn), and with one component of BGT-Tweaks much more items are imported. But you don't keep ALL items on you, some specific items are just relocated in the dungeon.

For importing manually, just export your PC at BGT "end", and import it in pure BG2. It will work.

This post has been edited by Anomaly: Feb 13 2007, 06:25 PM