There it is ! Fair enough : ) I wish I knew though.

Is the Underdark Maze boss HLA version determined by PC XP, or any party member XP (as in, Cernd drinking nature's gift) ?

This post has been edited by Badgerlad: Apr 17 2021, 07:14 PM

There is some dependency on the protagonist's XP, but I did not inspect what happens exactly.

Pretty fast pace you play. You playing in 1day same progress I played for 1month.

Well, lockdown it is, ain't got much else to do. Been playing the whole night (GMT+1), will keep going. I update every 30 min or so ; every fight kind of.

However, I'm not playing with hardest battles enabled like you did on your journal (IIRC), so I might go a little bit faster indeed.

About to get out of Underdark right now, I'll give a shot at Ancient Golem, should be doable. Can't say no to extra XP before Kruin.

Checked your progression. Just to note: Mirror Image deflect Disrupt undead. Good luck for Green Wyrm.
Are you planning to beat supreme leader after wyrm?

Green Wyrm was a joke (the kind of 2 rounds fights which made him look like a random wyvern). As for Disrupt Undead, I always have Keldorn True Seeing going on when fighting mages, so it shouldn't deflect it.

Supreme Leader, I wont do it now. This fight scares me a lot (on my top 3 hardest fight in the mod - I'd be interested in what you noticed on your run regarding buffs procing the anti-inquisitors debuff. The demonic flames-like one.), so I'll milk everything I can in SoA before giving it a shot.
Just did Guildmaster 15 min ago, then steam started a download for a patch... dunno how it'll affect IA, will reinstall stuff, but if everything works fine, next step is Grandfather, Limak, Golems milking in WK4 main floor, Suldanessalar, Shimmering Light 2 and Old Ones ++ (up to time machine, the Force should be quite easy with my party, Mazzy/Valygar combo is great in there).
Then, maybe, maybe, I'll check on the Giths : p

Main reason why I delay the giths so long is that since I'll rely a lot on my fighters, I need to gather as much HLAs as I can for final pounding.
Now that I think of it though... Maybe Keldorn can dispel Supreme Leader !

Oh forgot Kangaxx ! Cherry on the cake, gonna go get that noice ring.

See my comment here http://forums.blackwyrmlair.net/index.php?showtopic=5487 about the new patch.

Does anyone have a reliable tactic againt the Gith Anti-Inquisitors, apart from critical hit/pounding ?
Seems like lightning hit them a little, but would need to cast a hundred of CL to actually do decent damage to them, or I miss something there (when I go CL on them, they took lower resistance x3 first).

If I remember correctly, they gulp an insulation potion right after they're summoned. If you cast remove magic, then you can dispel it. Also don't forget that casters can have energy blades (that HLA), it deals lightning damage too.

Ooooh, that's why I found an insulation potion on one of them !!! Weird he didn't drink it.
Well, thanks, that should do the trick indeed. Cernd/Necro will check on their spellbooks ; )

Yeah that works very well ! Anti-Inquisitor phase was simpler than ever, funny how just a little potion makes a difference !

Supreme Leader is still a pain, managed him but he's too perfectly defensive as an enemy. I mean, his AC is one of the highest in the game, his stoneskins can't be dispelled, he has insane regeneration and his like perma hardiness (how does he have ? Like 12 ??) that can't be breached neither.
Not mentionning he probably can't be interupted anyway...

I'd like to see a way to make him less grindy, doesn't mean less powerful ofc... I dunno. I mean, I must do something wrong but anytime I beat the guy, it's more than a 1 hour fight IRL.
And still, I managed to keep most of my HLAs for him, all were wasted cause I have no idea of how much defenses he has left, and if I throw all in without being able to kill him, I'm done.

This being said, a mage could load his spellbook with Wish and gamble on a Wish for Rest in the end but meh. Didnt use Wish for Rest here (cause didn't get it heh).

On the other hand, I might have forgotten to give Mazzy a strength boost in the end, and she was the only one with grandmastery so... maybe.

Anyway, I must be frustrated right now by how long it took me, but this fight is great.
Just... meh... grindy.

Sorry for being all whiny whiny.

And most of all : thanks for the tip ! Anti-Inquisitors won't scare me anymore now !

Supreme Leader is being slightly toned down in the next release.

Seems like Keldorn’s dispels are really strong and he is your MVP - how is his fighting power?

Disrupt undead is a spell I have really only ever used in two places - old one fight and gate lich, both under alacrity. Otherwise it’s always seemed risky to me to be in CC range with a low HP caster.

Great, seems fair, and earlier access to WK4 opens some nice possibilites.



Yes he is ! Purely statwise since I started Sulda, he's on 20% of the chapter kills, 32% for Korgan (obviously, he has perma Crom Fayer and I don't always buff up STR), while Valygar and Mazzy are both slacking behind on 16%.

Carsomyr obtained asap after Underdark wasn't he powerspike I was hoping for. However, Holy Avenger is extremely strong - Supreme Leader was a good example, since it can fully dispel him, notably his hardiness I believe (it removes Garock's hardiness so I guess on Supreme leader two. On one of my first tries before going lightning on Anti-Inquisitors, we "killed" Leader in less than a round thanks to that, even before any golem spawned - too bad he couldn't be killed). And given what the weapon does, it fits Keldorn wonderfuly.

His resistance to magic damage (thanks to armor and high saves) is well balanced, doesn't feel like too much power even though he's definitely the one you wanna send as a finisher if you're out of PFME. I didnt even bother making Poseïdon's this run, he doesn't need it. (made Wave's though, blue looks good with his armor : p).

In practice, he is made to be a two-hander user : he needs the range. Each time I wasn't careful enough with positioning, and he was grabbing aggro, I'd be like "crap, gotta run, the guy doesn't tank physical". So keeping his dexterity low is mandatory so he can remain remotely balanced, and unable to tank heavy physical damage.
For instance, Mazzy, Valygar or Korgan could take on their own a coin or a gem and survive without issue. Keldorn can't, and that's fair. I noticed it particularly in big elemental golems fights (3+), where while I usually just don't care in my other runs, and regeneration/hardiness does the trick, there I had to be careful with being surrounded, he can't afford loosing his safe spot.

Being turned wasn't a problem for now. Can't say when it'll come to Rozvankee.

In a nutshell : he does exactly what you expect from an inquisitor, from all points of view, including the weaknesses he should have. He's still an extremely strong asset in IA for any party, and actualy brings a whole lot of new tactics to the table.

Random idea about his kit : Since he cannot cast spells, the Deva Summoning HLA seems out of place imo. What about a "Remove Magic" HLA which applies at his Dispel level ? Can only pick 1 (as for Contact with Nature for Rangers).

This post has been edited by Badgerlad: Apr 21 2021, 04:03 AM

Is there any kind of "no rest policy = reward" in the WK4 globes machine ?

This post has been edited by Badgerlad: Apr 21 2021, 04:00 AM

I wonder what the possible location for the girdle of hill giant strength are, I didnt find it in SoA this run.
Unless it's on SPOILER!
but I doubt it.

This post has been edited by Badgerlad: Apr 21 2021, 11:52 PM

Been on 5 reloads or so on Good Bad Ugly end fight.
Already noticed it was harsh on my last run with Vagrant, but I got some numbers : )
Takes 4 seconds (4/6 of a round - would've happened 4 times over 5, I just tempo my Natural Restoral to not waste it) for Auriel to die no matter what if you don't heal her, and she gets aggro of golems no matter what if they can access her (unless they're uber far away, and still) - which is a bit too much imo, they could be interested on someone else. On the other hand, they're sent to kill HER. : )
I'll eventually make it, but I need a Wish for Rest, been unsuccessful so far at getting one.

Edit : managed it without Wish for Rest, I was wrong ! Tactic included SPOILER!
!

More details on the journal !

This post has been edited by Badgerlad: Apr 21 2021, 10:52 PM

Possible locations include
SPOILER!

Thanks critto.
Then it didn't spawn on my run.
Had to CLUA it, since I killed all of them guys, could forge the girlde of lordly might then.

This post has been edited by Badgerlad: Apr 22 2021, 06:12 PM

Badgerlad, congratulation on defeating Demogorgon! It's the hardest and probably most intense fight in IA (Twisted rune comes to my mind as a lower-level equivalent) at the moment. It's really hard and that's why it's optional, as it could be too frustrating for some people. If you have any suggestions regarding some fights, then feel free to share them I'm personally thinking, that vargouilles were far too powerful in terms of AC and regeneration, but don't remember if that's been changed already.

As for Abazigal fight, it's a bit underwhelming to me. aWhy does he have immortal golems? And yes - necro can deal with him in seconds, which on the one hand show how far the child of Bhaal has come, but on the other hand it might decrease the pleasure. Who knows, maybe this fight will get improved a bit in the future, though my biggest concern is Balthazar fight. He's supposed to be the strongest out of the 5 but I don't think that IA has done anything to improve him. If I'll have anything to say about changes in this fight, then we'll see him reaching the potential of a Super Saiyan