Opinion on the mod so far Options

[Raven]

And IA should be learnt, no one is born as a master in it.

Very true.

[Kerkes]

No Vuki! For everyone who judges IA before giving yourself some time to learn how to play it. I think it would be much easier if you had never played vanilla BG, cause IA is much different, practically a whole new game. So some re-learning (is that a valid word at all?! I'm from Croatia, English is not my native language ) is a must for IA. The game itself tends to get MUCH easier (for me at least) once your characters start gaining some good scrolls to use and you get those +2, +3 rings to improve your saving throws. In the beggining, having a custom berserker to fight while your protagonist and other NPCs (Valygar, for instance) are confused/held/dead REALLY helped me a lot. Berserkers are great in vanilla game, in IA they're perfect for some nasty early encounters.

[Vuki]

No Vuki! For everyone who judges IA before giving yourself some time to learn how to play it.

I am sorry but I do not get what you are opposed to. What was excatly wrong in my post in your opinion?

So some re-learning (is that a valid word at all?! I'm from Croatia, English is not my native language tongue.gif ) is a must for IA.

Yes, I think it is an ok phrase (maybe is should be written as relearning). But I am from Hungary, so of course English is not my native language. BTW, I will go to Croatia within 3 weeks.

The game itself tends to get MUCH easier (for me at least) once your characters start gaining some good scrolls to use and you get those +2, +3 rings to improve your saving throws. In the beggining, having a custom berserker to fight while your protagonist and other NPCs (Valygar, for instance) are confused/held/dead REALLY helped me a lot. Berserkers are great in vanilla game, in IA they're perfect for some nasty early encounters.

Yes, but I am very greedy and I do not use my scrolls and potions I always try to save them to later occasion. I keep them until they become useless.

And yes, berserkers are cool. I have a barbarian and he is also cool.

This post has been edited by Vuki: Jul 20 2008, 09:08 PM

[Kerkes]

No hard feeling Vuki! just wanted to point out that some things in IA are so much different than vanilla game. Perhaps IA would be easier if we NEVER played vanilla game ?? you somehow get quite addicted to using some tactics which no longer work, at least I did (what can I say? imp inv, SI:div, SI:Abj, imphaste and hack your way to fortune!!!). Reading what your enemies do in battle is a great way to learn what your own mages should do. I remember Undead Solaufein buffing up with something like this: fireshield blu, red, imp.hate, imp,inv, SI:DIV, SI:abj, SI:evoc, protmw. Didn't ever used that combo until he tought me. Same goes for IA, cause in vannila game mislead whas all you need, so I never took the time to try other stuff - I never bothered casting spell shield in my experience with any mod.

[Kerkes]

nothing was wrong in your post didn't say that am opposed to anything no Vuki is that was not ment for you
btw enjoy your holidays in Croatia very nice country it is

[Vuki]

No hard feeling Vuki! just wanted to point out that some things in IA are so much different than vanilla game. Perhaps IA would be easier if we NEVER played vanilla game ?? you somehow get quite addicted to using some tactics which no longer work, at least I did (what can I say? imp inv, SI:div, SI:Abj, imphaste and hack your way to fortune!!!).

No problem it. But just to point out: when I did the battle against Sorcerous Amon I was not able to cast Impr. Haste. I bluff up my characters whatever I have and I started the battle with a Greater Mallison+Emotion+Greater Command combo. I think my tactics was not bad, maybe I should have used more potions and scrolls.

Reading what your enemies do in battle is a great way to learn what your own mages should do. I remember Undead Solaufein buffing up with something like this: fireshield blu, red, imp.hate, imp,inv, SI:DIV, SI:abj, SI:evoc, protmw. Didn't ever used that combo until he tought me. Same goes for IA, cause in vannila game mislead whas all you need, so I never took the time to try other stuff - I never bothered casting spell shield in my experience with any mod.

Theoretically it is not possible to do. You can only cast one SI spell on your character. Were you been able to repeat it yourself?

[Kerkes]

Your tactic was imo very good, but generally you should put a remove/dispel first and then malison etc cause enemy fighters are fond of using potions.try using potions AFTER mages cast remove magic on you (saved my ass against troll queen). imp haste can be bought in trademeet after finishing those druids in a tent below genie tent e.g.very early in the game. as for multiple SIs of course not in IA. In other mods, I used them a lot, a real LOT.

[Arkain]

Improved Haste is also part of the the merchant's offer who can be found in the bridge district (he's standing near Neb's house, iirc). I don't remember if that's true for IA though.

[Vuki]

Your tactic was imo very good, but generally you should put a remove/dispel first and then malison etc cause enemy fighters are fond of using potions.try using potions AFTER mages cast remove magic on you (saved my ass against troll queen). imp haste can be bought in trademeet after finishing those druids in a tent below genie tent e.g.very early in the game. as for multiple SIs of course not in IA. In other mods, I used them a lot, a real LOT.

I do not have Improved Haste spell because I was too low level and I was not able to cast it. Cast it from a scroll is too expensive and as I mentined I am really greedy.

[Raven]

Improved Haste is also part of the the merchant's offer who can be found in the bridge district (he's standing near Neb's house, iirc). I don't remember if that's true for IA though.

It is. I love that guy .

[Kerkes]

Never bother with him, trademeet sells SI also..

[Vik]

i really cant understand how u can compare vanila game and IA. because i my vanilla game it was enought for my fighter/mage or for my kensai/mage to cast only impr.haste and many prot. from magical weapons and it was enough for every battle except from the battle for the throne for IA is much thinking required and many reloads doesnt spoil the fun , on the contruary it increases the value of your win

[Kerkes]

It does, I agree. Met Yaga Shura yet?

[Vik]

nope didnt met him yet , i have few more quest , watchers keep and elven city;] to end SoA sadly not enough time for BG

[Kerkes]

You'll rethink about your last post when you do:)

[Vik]

for IA is much thinking required and many reloads doesnt spoil the fun , on the contruary it increases the value of your win

if you mean this when you are wrong because im kind of tactic thinker and dont mind reloads which make u think and learn new tactics and ways of winning the fight

[Kerkes]

I like it too.But with Yaga I had a frame rate of 10 or so during that fight...soooo slow. People screaming, and picture frozen..