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[rbeverjr]

The battle is even harder in v5.

Uugh, that battle in 4.2 was already harder than I prefer. I hope I don't end up dead, at the brink of success, killed before fulfilling my destiny. Well, I suppose I can always come back here to beg help from the experts if the battle is too frustrating.

[Shadan]

After a long break and many tries, I succesfully killed that bastard Rakshasa Prince. Well I thought he has infinte numbers Absolute Immunity... When I brought him down to badly injured, he always used it, usually 2 in a row while he got back to barely injured. Simply I was unable to kill him enough fast (4 melees, Improved Hasted 22+ Strength, Critical Strikes from 2 chars, Offensive Spins etc.), or this was intended to cast AI, I don't know. I don't know if he was run out of AI at end or just I was more lucky with hits. Anyway I don't care, I did it, and now I can start v5 run.
If anyone wants to read it and Sikret don't think it as too much spoiler, I can write a general tatctic with used spells, kill orders etc.

[Sikret]

After a long break and many tries, I succesfully killed that bastard Rakshasa Prince. Well I thought he has infinte numbers Absolute Immunity... When I brought him down to badly injured, he always used it, usually 2 in a row while he got back to barely injured. Simply I was unable to kill him enough fast (4 melees, Improved Hasted 22+ Strength, Critical Strikes from 2 chars, Offensive Spins etc.), or this was intended to cast AI, I don't know. I don't know if he was run out of AI at end or just I was more lucky with hits. Anyway I don't care, I did it, and now I can start v5 run.

Congratulations, shadan!

He said that he would return after a century, right? you can imagine that the EDE in v5 is actually the return of Rakshasa Prince for you.

As for your uncertainty about his Absolute Immunity spell, no, they are not infinite.

If anyone wants to read it and Sikret don't think it as too much spoiler, I can write a general tatctic with used spells, kill orders etc.

Send them, but use the spoiler tags. Also, remember that EDE is improved further in v5; so, your recommended tactics for this battle may need refinements to be used in v5.

[Shadan]

OK, then I write a spoiler, or just curiosity. Fast sidenote: after I defeated the Prince, I went for last Melissan fights without any rest, almost no spells, and finished her within 5 mins... It was a holyday after that Prince fight.
OK, here is my tactic, recommendations:

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Used spell:
Protection buffs: Some kind magical damage and fire resistance buff is must on all melees against Abi Dalzim, Dragon Breath and Repulsing Field. Mediocre lightning res recommended also against 1-2 summoned amber golems. Prot from Fire+Lightning+Magic or Prot. from Energy.
Usual combat buffs (on whatever character you can apply): PfMW/Mantle/Impr. Mantle/Abs. Imm. (even mantle was enough against Prince..), Stoneskin, Impr. Haste (must on all melees), Chaotic Command (it prevented me from Dragon Breath knockdown/sleep I think), Mirror Image, Blur, Shield of Faith, SI: Abj., any to hit increaser (Bless, Paryer, Impr. bard song), any damage increaser (Impr. bard song, Righteous Magic, DUHM).

Beside these buffs, I used very few spells:
summons - check it later
Magi M. - only on Supreme golem, and it will be immune in v5
Energy Baldes - to do cast and hit with Cernd and Nalia far from the heat of the battle
Wish, Limited Wish, Wondreous Recall - to get back some spells. Wish was very good, sadly the only casted Wish didn't give full rest option, but proc. from JD sword gave it 1 time. Anyway 25 to all stat is great Wish also.
Remove Magic: Haer'Dalis was on top with these to dispel Absolute Immunity from any raksasha asap. That bard armor is the best item in the game with permanent Improved Alacrity... HD was the ultimate tank since he was able to renew his defenses within a seconds and was able to Remove Magic any time.
Healing spells: 1-2 Heals, many Greater Restorations, 1-2 Mass Healing
Globe of Blades: it was able to damage rakshasas, but wasn't able to damage golems.
And these were all of the spells. I hope in v5 I can use some more spells, since many spellslot was unusable... With antigolem spell and with Improved TT maybe mages can take bigger part of this battle.

Potions: I used 1 barbarian essence only, but all of my char drank a Potion of Magic Shielding. Despite of their insane saving throws (cloak+3 and pair of ring+4 on all melees) one of them failed his save against Slow+Greater Malison (usually Haer'Dalis). This potion made all saving throw succesfull, which was important also against knockback effect of repulsing field or Prince's hit. I didn't use any healing potions.

Summons:
Deva: was good, but Planetar better.
Elemental Princes: they are really weak mostly case their bad saving throws
Mord. Swords: Good mass meatshield
All summoning items: djinn ring, spider figurine, lion figurine, adam. horn of Valhalla, JGolem tome

Anyway, summon were able to damage noble and horrid raksasha, but they can't damage golems and prince. Anyway they were good meat shield mostly against the Prince. JG golem (due to his spell imm), Devas and Planetars were the best.

Other imporant items:
JD sword, FoDW (that damage over time proc is awesome), Answerer, healing figurine, golem slayer


The kill:
buffed all, and summoned 4 meatshield.
When summoning circles started, I immidiately sent my fighter/illusionist PC and Haer'Dalis on Supreme golem, while Keldorn and Anomen waited the Prince 1st Remove Magic. Used GWW with my PC (Golem Slayer rock with GWW) and Keldorn (JF sword+Purifier). HD launched 9 Magi M. into the Supreme golem, Nalia and Cernd attacked by Energy Blades. Nalia casted MM also when she was able. Supreme golem died appr. when 1st wave of raksasha arrived.
My PC went for 1st Ultra golem. While other 5 chars killed 2 noble raksasha very fast. Then Keldorn and Anomen went to Ultra golem also, while HD, Nalia, Cernd and sommoned meatshield killed 2 horrid raksasha. I used up all GWW (4 or 5) with PC and Keldorn. I had a good Wish proc. at this time from JD sword and got back all spells, items with 1 use per day, spec. abilities. I killed 1st Ultra golem before they summoned Amber golems. If Prince attacked one of my char, I run 1-2 round with that char till Prince chose pasha mahmoud or summoned meatshield. If my PC or HD was attacked, I didn't run till SI: Abj. or spell protection or combat protection was dispelled. It was strange that Prince was able sometimes to dispell my protection through SI: Abj. with his hit, and SI was not removed... Anyway I finished 1st Ultragolem. Then killed, 2 noble raksashas with my party, but my PC went for 2nd Ultra golem. Then Anomen and Keldorn helped him, HD, Nalia and Cernd killed horrid raksasha. Then I repeated this with 1 amber golem (only one of these were summoned, since I was fast with kills). Then finished the last wave of raksasa. (I think there were only 4 waves, and nolbe ones was able to summon 1 horrid per nobles, since they were dead very fast. Key was the Remove Magic their ABs. Imm. with HD asap.)
So only the Prince left, and I failed with him many times. My buffs usually faded or were dispelled at this time, so I took some time to renew the most important ones (Chaotic Command, Fire and Magic dam. res., Impr. Haste, SI: Abj, PoMW/Mantle/Impr. Mantle). At least 1-2 summoned, Pasha and HD and/or my PC always tanked the Prince. My PC changed from Golem Slayer to FoDW and Axe of Unyielding. Then when his Abs. Imm. faded, I loaded all melee with Crit Strikes etc., but he always casted AI when he was badly injured. Usually damage over time from FoDW was able to keep him injured when 1st AI faded, but then he casted 2ond one immidiately. So at the end he always was barely injured. I took the time of AI to rebuff, heal, summon etc., removed all of my melees from the fight except HD or my PC. After several AI, I started to run out of buffs, heals etc., no lucky Wish with JD sword, my only casted wish (sadly only my PC had enough wisdom for Wish) didn't bring up the full rest option. Dragon Breath, Abi Dalzim was not problem. Biggest problem was that damned repulsing field which damaged me when I hit the Prince and I was not immun to magic damage. Also it knocked me back many times when Potion of Magic Shielding was dispelled... It was hard at end, but suddelny after at least 9-10 AI (or more ), he suddenly died from near death sate. I just waited for next AI again, and he cheated me, because he died :

From some bad tries:
My 1st tactic was to kill 3 golems asap, then ignore raksashas and started to kill the Prince, while Dragon Breath and Comet keep raksasha in stun, knockback many times. Didn't worked, I was overnumbered with noble and horrid ones... I had got many remove magic and sometimes I was not able to reach Prince after knockback cause of many monsters.
I tried to dispel Prince's AI with all of the spells. Even with Spellstrike. Was not succesfull...
I thought maybe Black Blade of D. can damage through AI, since it is +6 weapon. Tried it serveral times, no effect.

Thas all. Maybe I was long, but it is a fresh experience yet.

[Sikret]

Thanks for the comprehensive report, shadan!

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You wrote: "even Mantle was enough against the prince". This is not true. Rakshasa Prince's weapon is +5 (even in the previous versions of the mod).

You also wrote that the prince died! He didn't die; he left when he lost the battle and had a short dialogue before leaving, right? You can't kill a Greater God.

The battle is harder in v5 and requires much more concentration.

[Shadan]

Thanks for comments Sikret!

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Mantle, hmm yes, you should be right. Anyway, mantle was good against golems and other raksasha, and I was happy for this, because lvl 7 and 8 slot was almost unused, while at lvl 6 there were Impr. Haste, Prot. from Magic Weapons, Prot from M. Energy, Mislead for HD. Against Prince I used PfMW, but when I run out, I used Impr. Mantle or Mantle, maybe than I was just lucky and he didn't attacked mantled character
"Die" was just referring to the victory. Yes, he told sthing about leaving, just I was so happy cause of succes after so many wipe, so I haven't read it carefully. I wanted to save as soon as possible