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Shadan
post Dec 21 2024, 09:11 PM
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So, I will try to write my experiences with the game after a very long break from BG2.
No mods. only EoU, IA and IA Tweaks.


Started with:
Avanger prot: club**, dual w*, and then scimitar *
Custom RB: Flail ***, dual w***
Half-orc kensai: 2Hsowrd****, 2HW**

In Irenicus dungeon I relearned to handle the game... Traps and locks caused a problem, then I went for Yoshi (swapped Jaheira out), and was surprised when he didn't find traps also. Well, then I realized trap finding is a clickable skill... smile.gif
Since I played DnD 2e since 1989 for more than 10+ years, then came v3.0, v3.5, Pathfinder etc., so I remember on spells quite good, but I was surprised when MAA DoT was not applied. Then I realized spells are changed in IA quite a lot, so I had to relearn them again.
Lesser elementals caused me a problem, I was not able to damage them with weapons. Imoen's spells were not enough to kill all 3 of them. At end I realized maybe summons can help, rested and bears + clan member killed them very fast.
I was a bit afraid of Ilyich, because I remember on my first IA game, when he killed my protagonist several times and I was hardly able to kill him. Now he was walk in the park. However my tactical skills in this game still abysmal.
PC used Str, 3 Wis and Cha tomes. RB used Con tome.

After the dungeon, I picked Sibel. Suddenly after an IRL memory flash I remembered that donation in temple is good in IA. smile.gif So after a several tries and forum search I donated 4600 gold to get 3 reputations.

Then I did Circus, recruited Aerie. Moved to Slums. Killed annoying guy in Copper Coronet. Recruited Nalia as F->M (swapped out Minsc), recruited Anomen, Korgan and Hexxat. Leveled up Hexxat, increasing her PP skill in hope maybe later I can try some pick pocket things with her. smile.gif Nalia used Int tome. Got Windspear Hills map. Then Bridge to trigger Neera. Government to get Umar map. Gate to get Trademeet quest.

Wild Forest. Swapped Nalia to Neera. Well, 2 ogres from polymorph trap used hardiness and GWW... Was a big surprise and a big death. smile.gif Killed them on 2nd try.
Anyway I did 2 minor quests in Hidden Refugee, and left to Umar Hills.

A question: Shall I pay for Cowled Wizards later? I remember that in first BG2 runs, I've never payed, just killed them. But in IA maybe it is too much hindrace to skip arcane magic in the town.

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Shadan
post Jan 27 2025, 03:47 PM
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Nowadays I have a little less time to play, and I have to admit I am stucked at dracolich...

But first my progression:

- The whole drow city: Was easy, but I've enjoyed House Jae'llat. It was refreshing when main concern was not a mage/lich etc. Just lof of fighters and clerics. I have to replay the whole city, first I've missed the 3rd colour quest, because I roleplayed in a certain situation.
- Kou-toan caverns: Not too difficult, however Prince fight was enjoying. Not too easy, but not too hard. Skipped Demon Knights, I wanted 1 HLAs before I try this fight. I thought I will do after I finish noble blood quest, dracolich and leave drow city.
- Mind Flayer caverns: Well, Elder Brain was a bit pain. I wanted to farm out 6 golems from Elemental golem, but I was not successfull. Mindflayers died very fast, also brain golems. But somehow the elemental golem always killed one of my character. Either because I was out of Ironskins and bad timed heal, or because of failed save against Elder's brain stun. At end I abandoned this concept, and killed EG after 2 golems. At very end kensai died (1st death in my current play), but I didn't want to replay the whole fight again. I had 10+ tries on this already. I am sure, I can do it without a death, but I had no patience to do it again. 1 Raise Dead scroll, loot and I left those filthy tunnels. smile.gif
- Beholder Tunnels: Elder orb was easy. The only concern to avoid or survive that nasty 3 ADHW Chaint Cont. Ancient golem was there again, but I was able to skip him. Beholders near the AG saw me, and came after me, but golem didn't, luckily... So I was able to reach the stairs to...

... Deeper than Underdark: Well, it is remarkable quest, because as soon as I entered I remembered from my former plays 15 years ago. smile.gif But I have to admit my tactical skill is not same as it was before... I was not able to kill dracolich from appr. 20 tries. My tactic is below:

SPOILER!
- Avanger PC went down the stairs and summoned smilodon. Others stayed at entrance to avoid Gr. Silence, and started to buff.
- RB moved to Dracolich after 1st silence and helped PC in tank duty.
- PC was near to dracolich all time, summoned a clan hunter, but he was useless otherwise because of silence. He just poked the PfMW with staff.
- Mages (Nalia and Neera) casted Remove Fear and Limited Wisd (prot. from leveldrain which was dispelled by dragon from 2-3 chars) then they buffed themselves with spell protections (SI:A, GoI, Spell Turning). My idea was to keep dracolich busy for short time to remove these, while they are renewing them as needed. Nalia always was silenced very fast, but Neera was able to avoid silence and recast several spell protections.
- Kensai stayed away, she doesn't have any type of protection exc. 1 Hardiness. So she just summoned from items (lion, spider, efreeti, berzerker).
- Sibel Prot. from Evil 10', then Death Ward on Nalia and Neera. She moved nearer occasionally to cast ZoSA (remove Death Fog), but mainly summoned bears and Gr. Resto from far.
- Beside durable summons (Clan hunter and smilodon), I've tried to keep other summons (item summons, bears etc.) 1 or max. 2 at the same time, to keep dracolich casting Death Spells.

But Gr. Silence + leveldrain + Gr. Doom + wail always killed 1-2 characters, sometimes my PC. I've tried to use Potion of Magic Shielding, to avoid this, but I didn't want to use up too much, because I remember it is very useful in later game also. And if I didn't time it precisely just before the wail, dracolich always dispelled it.
And it seems dracolich is never out ot PfMW... So I am a stucked and a bit clueless.


My first HLA's:
PC: smilodon
Sibel: She haven't got HLA yet.
RB and Kensai: Hardiness
Nalia: 6th level slot
Neera: Alacrity (However she was not able to use this, because any notable enemy are immune to everything, so there was not a chance to use it offensively. As a defensive use I wanted to use it in dracolich fight, to buff up IHs very fast when dracolich is out of PfMW or near out of it, but seemingly he has plentiful of that nasty defensive spell.)

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Shadan   V7 run   Dec 21 2024, 09:11 PM
DequNew   Good luck! I found with Sibel game is more eas...   Dec 21 2024, 10:03 PM
pekkae   Allright :thumb: Godspeed! I don't ...   Dec 22 2024, 12:11 AM
Shadan   Thanks. :) Finished Umar Hills minor quests. Recr...   Dec 22 2024, 05:19 AM
pekkae   Thanks. :) Another surprise was the noble troll a...   Dec 22 2024, 12:32 PM
critto   That's quite strange that it happened. Did th...   Dec 22 2024, 09:03 AM
Shadan   No horror or any fear effect. Just low HP. Yes,...   Dec 22 2024, 05:26 PM
SparrowJacek   I think the main reason is that you get the Short...   Dec 22 2024, 05:38 PM
pekkae   I think the rewards for that particul stronghold a...   Dec 22 2024, 05:45 PM
Shadan   Thanks! Also I am very dissatisfied with Neer...   Dec 22 2024, 05:50 PM
Sikret   Also I am very dissatisfy with Neera as a a wild m...   Dec 22 2024, 05:59 PM
DequNew   By accepting you get around 40k+ gold (or bit more...   Dec 22 2024, 05:52 PM
Shadan   Thanks Sikret! Great moments in IA when memor...   Dec 22 2024, 09:02 PM
DequNew   Dorn Questline gives some decent experience and th...   Dec 22 2024, 09:40 PM
Shadan   Thanks! Maybe next time, however I don't l...   Dec 23 2024, 02:50 AM
DequNew   Qustion: I pkayed Gaelan. I have some money. Is th...   Dec 23 2024, 12:11 PM
SparrowJacek   Most people (me included) tend to forge Phosphorus...   Dec 23 2024, 03:14 AM
critto   There are some useful early +3 weapons sold in Tr...   Dec 23 2024, 07:43 AM
Sikret   The Improved Ankheg Plate can be improved further ...   Dec 23 2024, 11:07 PM
Shadan   I continue to play after a few days xmas break. My...   Dec 26 2024, 08:25 PM
SparrowJacek   Gauths are susceptible to Emotions spell Well, as...   Dec 26 2024, 08:56 PM
critto   Her damage output with the club is so high I would...   Dec 27 2024, 10:54 AM
Shadan   Weapon proficiencies are not so important for all ...   Dec 28 2024, 06:55 PM
pekkae   My progress: Companion quests: Anomen, Cernd, Hexx...   Dec 28 2024, 10:19 PM
critto   True, although I'd argue that it's much ea...   Dec 28 2024, 07:54 PM
Shadan   Yes. Kit works correctly, and there was not any ...   Dec 28 2024, 10:06 PM
critto   Have you tried leveling up? Maybe that'll cle...   Dec 28 2024, 10:23 PM
Shadan   I checked the problem, and I found that Combat sta...   Dec 29 2024, 03:45 AM
DequNew   Are these spells removed from IA? Minor Sequencer ...   Dec 29 2024, 04:52 AM
critto   Weird. I never really paid attention to that page ...   Dec 29 2024, 09:37 AM
Shadan   No. I didn't want to waste a round, becuuse if...   Dec 29 2024, 07:59 PM
critto   When the spells are already active in the area, th...   Dec 30 2024, 12:26 AM
Shadan   Well, De'Arnise Keep drove me to crazy. Let me...   Dec 30 2024, 10:34 PM
Shadan   Well, I did Sibel's village several times, and...   Jan 1 2025, 08:28 PM
Alva   2 Shade Liches with Skeleton Lords: Well, first th...   Jan 2 2025, 05:10 PM
DequNew   Did you tried Shadow dragon? Might seems hard at f...   Jan 1 2025, 11:28 PM
Shadan   No, I left him, I thought it is impossible at this...   Jan 2 2025, 01:28 AM
Alva   No, I left him, I thought it is impossible at this...   Jan 2 2025, 11:25 PM
critto   Shadow Dragon should generally be doable pre-Spell...   Jan 2 2025, 11:51 AM
critto   The dragon is improved 100%. But it is doable pre-...   Jan 3 2025, 01:47 AM
Shadan   My progress: Planar Prison finished. Neera as a wi...   Jan 4 2025, 04:17 AM
critto   As she levels up and gains her improved gear, her ...   Jan 4 2025, 10:27 AM
Shadan   Is it possible to check wild mage table somewhere?...   Jan 4 2025, 06:20 PM
DequNew   Maybe try resting few days at entrance of sphere   Jan 4 2025, 06:26 PM
Shadan   I went to Umar Hills and Trademeet after Sphere. R...   Jan 4 2025, 06:40 PM
pekkae   What does your journal say? Did you finish the que...   Jan 4 2025, 06:50 PM
Shadan   Thanks, but I won't cheat in normal games. ...   Jan 4 2025, 07:21 PM
DequNew   Send me save game or screen of variables and I can...   Jan 4 2025, 07:46 PM
Shadan   Thanks, I sent a message.   Jan 4 2025, 09:06 PM
critto   There are two testing items (wands) in the game, ...   Jan 5 2025, 12:12 AM
Shadan   Thanks all, who tried to help me. I am happy to se...   Jan 5 2025, 02:54 AM
DequNew   Just found that harder spellhold is 2 more amber c...   Jan 5 2025, 03:43 AM
Shadan   Thanks! What is the limit of Screaming Statue...   Jan 5 2025, 04:23 AM
pekkae   Also I remember, item making is tricky in wizard s...   Jan 5 2025, 02:41 PM
critto   Sorry, missed that one. Right now you can only loo...   Jan 5 2025, 12:39 PM
Shadan   Thanks, I forged the ring of wizardry. Borinall de...   Jan 6 2025, 07:15 PM
DequNew   Conster should be easily doable for you   Jan 6 2025, 07:38 PM
Shadan   Hmm, it seems I messed up ranger stronghold. Any c...   Jan 9 2025, 01:13 AM
critto   Did you get Delon warning you about the attack? Wh...   Jan 9 2025, 01:57 AM
Shadan   Probably, but in new year I have a less time to pl...   Jan 9 2025, 02:05 AM
critto   Try setting OgronAttack to 1 and RangerProtector t...   Jan 9 2025, 09:50 AM
Shadan   Sadly it didn't help. :( I changed both variab...   Jan 9 2025, 10:53 PM
critto   Which phrase exactly does Lloyd gives you when he...   Jan 9 2025, 11:22 PM
Shadan   After I changed OGRONASSAULT also: "Despite a...   Jan 9 2025, 11:31 PM
DequNew   Well things like that are demotivating, but that i...   Jan 9 2025, 11:32 PM
Shadan   Yes, you warned be, I just simply forgot this and ...   Jan 9 2025, 11:37 PM
critto   OK, let's try one more time. Looks like you fa...   Jan 10 2025, 12:16 AM
Shadan   Sadly it is not enough... My save is in Umar Hills...   Jan 10 2025, 12:43 AM
critto   You need to go out of Umar Hills completely, set b...   Jan 10 2025, 12:56 AM
Shadan   OMG, it worked. :) At least at Lloyd... Well not e...   Jan 10 2025, 01:03 AM
critto   Weird stuff. How did you resolve the conflict betw...   Jan 10 2025, 01:21 AM
Shadan   I solved things peacefully between Madulf and Lloy...   Jan 10 2025, 01:40 AM
DequNew   Try to go to cave and spawn madulf manually   Jan 10 2025, 02:44 AM
critto   Yes, I am curious what would happen too if you did...   Jan 10 2025, 11:23 AM
Shadan   I am not expert in this kind of machinations, but ...   Jan 10 2025, 10:38 PM
critto   It's just the vanilla three, unless you'r...   Jan 10 2025, 11:42 PM
Shadan   So my progress report after a long agony with rang...   Jan 11 2025, 02:34 AM
critto   There are some improved fights, but probably not a...   Jan 11 2025, 12:03 PM
Shadan   I've killed shaodw dragon. You were right, was...   Jan 11 2025, 05:55 PM
DequNew   Chapter6 there are so much more available to craft...   Jan 11 2025, 07:02 PM
critto   Locations for Blackblood: Gaal, Torgal, Priest of ...   Jan 12 2025, 01:03 AM
Shadan   I did few quests there, but stopped one quest befo...   Jan 14 2025, 02:15 AM
DequNew   I did few quests there, but stopped one quest befo...   Jan 14 2025, 01:33 PM
critto   Priest of Cyric is the one in the Slaver Ship.   Jan 14 2025, 10:53 AM
Shadan   I've finished Spellhold. Irenicus was not so h...   Jan 15 2025, 06:00 PM
Shadan   Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstri...   Jan 17 2025, 01:58 AM
DequNew   Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstri...   Jan 17 2025, 01:59 AM
DequNew   -   Jan 17 2025, 02:05 AM
Shadan   Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Pr...   Jan 17 2025, 06:49 PM
DequNew   Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Pr...   Jan 18 2025, 12:43 AM
Shadan   For Ust Natha dont miss easily missable quest ...   Jan 18 2025, 05:18 AM
critto   Strange that you've seen him. It is "hidd...   Jan 18 2025, 10:24 AM
Shadan   I figured this out from content page on this site....   Jan 19 2025, 01:07 AM
SparrowJacek   There's the "Deeper than the Underdark...   Jan 19 2025, 01:29 AM
critto   Yes, there are two levels in the tower. That...   Jan 19 2025, 07:45 AM
DequNew   There is enough space to go around ancient golem. ...   Jan 19 2025, 01:29 PM
Shadan   Nowadays I have a little less time to play, and I ...   Jan 27 2025, 03:47 PM
SparrowJacek   Well, the Dracolich is much easier before you get ...   Jan 28 2025, 12:13 AM
Shadan   Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I h...   Jan 28 2025, 01:11 AM
DequNew   Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I h...   Jan 28 2025, 01:31 AM
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