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Shadan
post Dec 21 2024, 09:11 PM
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So, I will try to write my experiences with the game after a very long break from BG2.
No mods. only EoU, IA and IA Tweaks.


Started with:
Avanger prot: club**, dual w*, and then scimitar *
Custom RB: Flail ***, dual w***
Half-orc kensai: 2Hsowrd****, 2HW**

In Irenicus dungeon I relearned to handle the game... Traps and locks caused a problem, then I went for Yoshi (swapped Jaheira out), and was surprised when he didn't find traps also. Well, then I realized trap finding is a clickable skill... smile.gif
Since I played DnD 2e since 1989 for more than 10+ years, then came v3.0, v3.5, Pathfinder etc., so I remember on spells quite good, but I was surprised when MAA DoT was not applied. Then I realized spells are changed in IA quite a lot, so I had to relearn them again.
Lesser elementals caused me a problem, I was not able to damage them with weapons. Imoen's spells were not enough to kill all 3 of them. At end I realized maybe summons can help, rested and bears + clan member killed them very fast.
I was a bit afraid of Ilyich, because I remember on my first IA game, when he killed my protagonist several times and I was hardly able to kill him. Now he was walk in the park. However my tactical skills in this game still abysmal.
PC used Str, 3 Wis and Cha tomes. RB used Con tome.

After the dungeon, I picked Sibel. Suddenly after an IRL memory flash I remembered that donation in temple is good in IA. smile.gif So after a several tries and forum search I donated 4600 gold to get 3 reputations.

Then I did Circus, recruited Aerie. Moved to Slums. Killed annoying guy in Copper Coronet. Recruited Nalia as F->M (swapped out Minsc), recruited Anomen, Korgan and Hexxat. Leveled up Hexxat, increasing her PP skill in hope maybe later I can try some pick pocket things with her. smile.gif Nalia used Int tome. Got Windspear Hills map. Then Bridge to trigger Neera. Government to get Umar map. Gate to get Trademeet quest.

Wild Forest. Swapped Nalia to Neera. Well, 2 ogres from polymorph trap used hardiness and GWW... Was a big surprise and a big death. smile.gif Killed them on 2nd try.
Anyway I did 2 minor quests in Hidden Refugee, and left to Umar Hills.

A question: Shall I pay for Cowled Wizards later? I remember that in first BG2 runs, I've never payed, just killed them. But in IA maybe it is too much hindrace to skip arcane magic in the town.

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post Jan 14 2025, 02:15 AM
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You could do fighter stronhold before spellhold if you havent done it yet.
I did few quests there, but stopped one quest before Roenall. I remember, I had a problems with that when that was the next before Spellhold. and some timer ran out when I came back in Ch6.

SPOILER!
Gaal, Torgal, Priest of Cyric, Slaver Ship

Well I hope it is at Gaal, because I've killed Torgal and cleared Slaver Ship. I don't know where is Priest of Cyric. It he is et Theshal, I haven't killed him also.


I did Brynnlaw and most of the Spellhold. Brynnlaw is nothing special.

Spellhold:

Spiders: Easy.
Elemental golem: Suprised first, reload, rest, buff, forgot elemental damage. Reload, medium hard fight, killed all golems with 2 Fire Giant Str potion used.
SPOILER!
Later I've found out, I could farm a little XP and loot, I I wait EG summons all 6 minor golems. Maybe at next EG's I will do that.


Shade Lich: This was hard, mostly because party was tired out of buffs and I Didn't want rest. smile.gif Sibel tanked the lich until he was out of PfMW.
Kobolds: Easy on my level and with my strong party.
Tome: Easy also.
Cat: Was easy, but Librarian surprised me. I was not prepared for her, but I killed him as I did with shade lich: Sibel tanked him for a looong time.
Vampire lord: Easy, killed him very fast. Breach helped.

Then Mithril golem: well this was hard....

SPOILER!
I don't have any good high level summon. So I summoned clan hunter + 4 mountain bears. Buffed to max. death ward on summons. 3 Cloud Giant Str. and 2 Invu potions used.
4 bears were the first who engaged with golem, then Sibel. Bears soaked the first 2 rounds of MG. Avanger engaged next. RB and kensai summoned Joloon and spider as a bit more distraction.
Spell trigger 3 Lower Res, Nalia casted the 4th. Then I've tried the following spells:
Sequencer: Gr. Malison + 2 Slow. Gr. Mallison was applied, but I am unsure of Slow. I've casted 2 more Slow, and sometimes there was a save message sometimes there wasn't. But apr of MG seemingly didn't changed.
Minor Seq: 2 Ray of Enf. One save message, other applied I think, but damage of MG wasn't lowered.
Doom: I am unsure.
Polymorph: No effect. smile.gif
Web: No effect.

After this it was only a hack and slash. I have great melee power, Nalia with Rod of Smiting. smile.gif
I wanted to tank with Sibel: AC-20 + belt-4 vs. crushing, -4 Shield of Archon (too pity a level 7 spell, not so long duration and easily can be dispelled), -4 Impr. Invis, -2 Def. Harmony. She was able to avoid few hits, but soon 1 hit landed, and whole buffs went to the hell... Well, Impr. Inv. stayed on, so I was not able to cast Heal with avanger on Sibel. smile.gif And bleed prevented her to cast Gr. Resto. Also MG changed target frequently, targeted even those who stood a little bit behind, like kensai and avanger. So I am unsure, how was able others to tank him perfectly. But, my party's great melee power killed him reasonable fast. All melees were under bleed effect, so I was not able to heal from spells, I had to drink some Extrahealing portions after the fight. Golden Cat Figurine saved my kensai in the fight. smile.gif


I am a bit clueless about Spellhold. My next party will be weaker I think than the current one. I have 3 options regarding Spellhold:
1. I go to Spellhold before the XP limit of improved version. I Don't like this, because I have to skip few fights which are challenge and enjoying in CH3, but easy and a bit boring in Ch6.
2. I go to improved Spellhold, which will be a bit hard to a weaker party, and I will suffer there.
3. Apply IE Tweaks no improved Spellhold, but in this case, maybe Spellhold will be a bit too easy as it was now with this party.

I have to consider this. smile.gif


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You could do fighter stronhold before spellhold if you havent done it yet.
I did few quests there, but stopped one quest before Roenall. I remember, I had a problems with that when that was the next before Spellhold. and some timer ran out when I came back in Ch6.

There might be still timers, I remember something like it is timer safe to do one quest before flood but not flood.
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Shadan   V7 run   Dec 21 2024, 09:11 PM
DequNew   Good luck! I found with Sibel game is more eas...   Dec 21 2024, 10:03 PM
pekkae   Allright :thumb: Godspeed! I don't ...   Dec 22 2024, 12:11 AM
Shadan   Thanks. :) Finished Umar Hills minor quests. Recr...   Dec 22 2024, 05:19 AM
pekkae   Thanks. :) Another surprise was the noble troll a...   Dec 22 2024, 12:32 PM
critto   That's quite strange that it happened. Did th...   Dec 22 2024, 09:03 AM
Shadan   No horror or any fear effect. Just low HP. Yes,...   Dec 22 2024, 05:26 PM
SparrowJacek   I think the main reason is that you get the Short...   Dec 22 2024, 05:38 PM
pekkae   I think the rewards for that particul stronghold a...   Dec 22 2024, 05:45 PM
Shadan   Thanks! Also I am very dissatisfied with Neer...   Dec 22 2024, 05:50 PM
Sikret   Also I am very dissatisfy with Neera as a a wild m...   Dec 22 2024, 05:59 PM
DequNew   By accepting you get around 40k+ gold (or bit more...   Dec 22 2024, 05:52 PM
Shadan   Thanks Sikret! Great moments in IA when memor...   Dec 22 2024, 09:02 PM
DequNew   Dorn Questline gives some decent experience and th...   Dec 22 2024, 09:40 PM
Shadan   Thanks! Maybe next time, however I don't l...   Dec 23 2024, 02:50 AM
DequNew   Qustion: I pkayed Gaelan. I have some money. Is th...   Dec 23 2024, 12:11 PM
SparrowJacek   Most people (me included) tend to forge Phosphorus...   Dec 23 2024, 03:14 AM
critto   There are some useful early +3 weapons sold in Tr...   Dec 23 2024, 07:43 AM
Sikret   The Improved Ankheg Plate can be improved further ...   Dec 23 2024, 11:07 PM
Shadan   I continue to play after a few days xmas break. My...   Dec 26 2024, 08:25 PM
SparrowJacek   Gauths are susceptible to Emotions spell Well, as...   Dec 26 2024, 08:56 PM
critto   Her damage output with the club is so high I would...   Dec 27 2024, 10:54 AM
Shadan   Weapon proficiencies are not so important for all ...   Dec 28 2024, 06:55 PM
pekkae   My progress: Companion quests: Anomen, Cernd, Hexx...   Dec 28 2024, 10:19 PM
critto   True, although I'd argue that it's much ea...   Dec 28 2024, 07:54 PM
Shadan   Yes. Kit works correctly, and there was not any ...   Dec 28 2024, 10:06 PM
critto   Have you tried leveling up? Maybe that'll cle...   Dec 28 2024, 10:23 PM
Shadan   I checked the problem, and I found that Combat sta...   Dec 29 2024, 03:45 AM
DequNew   Are these spells removed from IA? Minor Sequencer ...   Dec 29 2024, 04:52 AM
critto   Weird. I never really paid attention to that page ...   Dec 29 2024, 09:37 AM
Shadan   No. I didn't want to waste a round, becuuse if...   Dec 29 2024, 07:59 PM
critto   When the spells are already active in the area, th...   Dec 30 2024, 12:26 AM
Shadan   Well, De'Arnise Keep drove me to crazy. Let me...   Dec 30 2024, 10:34 PM
Shadan   Well, I did Sibel's village several times, and...   Jan 1 2025, 08:28 PM
Alva   2 Shade Liches with Skeleton Lords: Well, first th...   Jan 2 2025, 05:10 PM
DequNew   Did you tried Shadow dragon? Might seems hard at f...   Jan 1 2025, 11:28 PM
Shadan   No, I left him, I thought it is impossible at this...   Jan 2 2025, 01:28 AM
Alva   No, I left him, I thought it is impossible at this...   Jan 2 2025, 11:25 PM
critto   Shadow Dragon should generally be doable pre-Spell...   Jan 2 2025, 11:51 AM
critto   The dragon is improved 100%. But it is doable pre-...   Jan 3 2025, 01:47 AM
Shadan   My progress: Planar Prison finished. Neera as a wi...   Jan 4 2025, 04:17 AM
critto   As she levels up and gains her improved gear, her ...   Jan 4 2025, 10:27 AM
Shadan   Is it possible to check wild mage table somewhere?...   Jan 4 2025, 06:20 PM
DequNew   Maybe try resting few days at entrance of sphere   Jan 4 2025, 06:26 PM
Shadan   I went to Umar Hills and Trademeet after Sphere. R...   Jan 4 2025, 06:40 PM
pekkae   What does your journal say? Did you finish the que...   Jan 4 2025, 06:50 PM
Shadan   Thanks, but I won't cheat in normal games. ...   Jan 4 2025, 07:21 PM
DequNew   Send me save game or screen of variables and I can...   Jan 4 2025, 07:46 PM
Shadan   Thanks, I sent a message.   Jan 4 2025, 09:06 PM
critto   There are two testing items (wands) in the game, ...   Jan 5 2025, 12:12 AM
Shadan   Thanks all, who tried to help me. I am happy to se...   Jan 5 2025, 02:54 AM
DequNew   Just found that harder spellhold is 2 more amber c...   Jan 5 2025, 03:43 AM
Shadan   Thanks! What is the limit of Screaming Statue...   Jan 5 2025, 04:23 AM
pekkae   Also I remember, item making is tricky in wizard s...   Jan 5 2025, 02:41 PM
critto   Sorry, missed that one. Right now you can only loo...   Jan 5 2025, 12:39 PM
Shadan   Thanks, I forged the ring of wizardry. Borinall de...   Jan 6 2025, 07:15 PM
DequNew   Conster should be easily doable for you   Jan 6 2025, 07:38 PM
Shadan   Hmm, it seems I messed up ranger stronghold. Any c...   Jan 9 2025, 01:13 AM
critto   Did you get Delon warning you about the attack? Wh...   Jan 9 2025, 01:57 AM
Shadan   Probably, but in new year I have a less time to pl...   Jan 9 2025, 02:05 AM
critto   Try setting OgronAttack to 1 and RangerProtector t...   Jan 9 2025, 09:50 AM
Shadan   Sadly it didn't help. :( I changed both variab...   Jan 9 2025, 10:53 PM
critto   Which phrase exactly does Lloyd gives you when he...   Jan 9 2025, 11:22 PM
Shadan   After I changed OGRONASSAULT also: "Despite a...   Jan 9 2025, 11:31 PM
DequNew   Well things like that are demotivating, but that i...   Jan 9 2025, 11:32 PM
Shadan   Yes, you warned be, I just simply forgot this and ...   Jan 9 2025, 11:37 PM
critto   OK, let's try one more time. Looks like you fa...   Jan 10 2025, 12:16 AM
Shadan   Sadly it is not enough... My save is in Umar Hills...   Jan 10 2025, 12:43 AM
critto   You need to go out of Umar Hills completely, set b...   Jan 10 2025, 12:56 AM
Shadan   OMG, it worked. :) At least at Lloyd... Well not e...   Jan 10 2025, 01:03 AM
critto   Weird stuff. How did you resolve the conflict betw...   Jan 10 2025, 01:21 AM
Shadan   I solved things peacefully between Madulf and Lloy...   Jan 10 2025, 01:40 AM
DequNew   Try to go to cave and spawn madulf manually   Jan 10 2025, 02:44 AM
critto   Yes, I am curious what would happen too if you did...   Jan 10 2025, 11:23 AM
Shadan   I am not expert in this kind of machinations, but ...   Jan 10 2025, 10:38 PM
critto   It's just the vanilla three, unless you'r...   Jan 10 2025, 11:42 PM
Shadan   So my progress report after a long agony with rang...   Jan 11 2025, 02:34 AM
critto   There are some improved fights, but probably not a...   Jan 11 2025, 12:03 PM
Shadan   I've killed shaodw dragon. You were right, was...   Jan 11 2025, 05:55 PM
DequNew   Chapter6 there are so much more available to craft...   Jan 11 2025, 07:02 PM
critto   Locations for Blackblood: Gaal, Torgal, Priest of ...   Jan 12 2025, 01:03 AM
Shadan   I did few quests there, but stopped one quest befo...   Jan 14 2025, 02:15 AM
DequNew   I did few quests there, but stopped one quest befo...   Jan 14 2025, 01:33 PM
critto   Priest of Cyric is the one in the Slaver Ship.   Jan 14 2025, 10:53 AM
Shadan   I've finished Spellhold. Irenicus was not so h...   Jan 15 2025, 06:00 PM
Shadan   Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstri...   Jan 17 2025, 01:58 AM
DequNew   Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstri...   Jan 17 2025, 01:59 AM
DequNew   -   Jan 17 2025, 02:05 AM
Shadan   Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Pr...   Jan 17 2025, 06:49 PM
DequNew   Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Pr...   Jan 18 2025, 12:43 AM
Shadan   For Ust Natha dont miss easily missable quest ...   Jan 18 2025, 05:18 AM
critto   Strange that you've seen him. It is "hidd...   Jan 18 2025, 10:24 AM
Shadan   I figured this out from content page on this site....   Jan 19 2025, 01:07 AM
SparrowJacek   There's the "Deeper than the Underdark...   Jan 19 2025, 01:29 AM
critto   Yes, there are two levels in the tower. That...   Jan 19 2025, 07:45 AM
DequNew   There is enough space to go around ancient golem. ...   Jan 19 2025, 01:29 PM
Shadan   Nowadays I have a little less time to play, and I ...   Jan 27 2025, 03:47 PM
SparrowJacek   Well, the Dracolich is much easier before you get ...   Jan 28 2025, 12:13 AM
Shadan   Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I h...   Jan 28 2025, 01:11 AM
DequNew   Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I h...   Jan 28 2025, 01:31 AM
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