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Shadan
post Dec 21 2024, 09:11 PM
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So, I will try to write my experiences with the game after a very long break from BG2.
No mods. only EoU, IA and IA Tweaks.


Started with:
Avanger prot: club**, dual w*, and then scimitar *
Custom RB: Flail ***, dual w***
Half-orc kensai: 2Hsowrd****, 2HW**

In Irenicus dungeon I relearned to handle the game... Traps and locks caused a problem, then I went for Yoshi (swapped Jaheira out), and was surprised when he didn't find traps also. Well, then I realized trap finding is a clickable skill... smile.gif
Since I played DnD 2e since 1989 for more than 10+ years, then came v3.0, v3.5, Pathfinder etc., so I remember on spells quite good, but I was surprised when MAA DoT was not applied. Then I realized spells are changed in IA quite a lot, so I had to relearn them again.
Lesser elementals caused me a problem, I was not able to damage them with weapons. Imoen's spells were not enough to kill all 3 of them. At end I realized maybe summons can help, rested and bears + clan member killed them very fast.
I was a bit afraid of Ilyich, because I remember on my first IA game, when he killed my protagonist several times and I was hardly able to kill him. Now he was walk in the park. However my tactical skills in this game still abysmal.
PC used Str, 3 Wis and Cha tomes. RB used Con tome.

After the dungeon, I picked Sibel. Suddenly after an IRL memory flash I remembered that donation in temple is good in IA. smile.gif So after a several tries and forum search I donated 4600 gold to get 3 reputations.

Then I did Circus, recruited Aerie. Moved to Slums. Killed annoying guy in Copper Coronet. Recruited Nalia as F->M (swapped out Minsc), recruited Anomen, Korgan and Hexxat. Leveled up Hexxat, increasing her PP skill in hope maybe later I can try some pick pocket things with her. smile.gif Nalia used Int tome. Got Windspear Hills map. Then Bridge to trigger Neera. Government to get Umar map. Gate to get Trademeet quest.

Wild Forest. Swapped Nalia to Neera. Well, 2 ogres from polymorph trap used hardiness and GWW... Was a big surprise and a big death. smile.gif Killed them on 2nd try.
Anyway I did 2 minor quests in Hidden Refugee, and left to Umar Hills.

A question: Shall I pay for Cowled Wizards later? I remember that in first BG2 runs, I've never payed, just killed them. But in IA maybe it is too much hindrace to skip arcane magic in the town.

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Shadan
post Dec 30 2024, 10:34 PM
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Well, De'Arnise Keep drove me to crazy. Let me to write down, how blind and stupid I am... smile.gif
I cleared 1st floor a while ago. I went back yesterday, cleared the 2nd floor, Glacias, golem room etc. Then I started to look for the stairs to the roof. I found stairs to basement, but I didn't want to face TorGal yet. After an hour of looking, I abandoned this, all stairs were blocked. So I moved to basement. Then, just before TorGal, I realized I forgot FoA and food for umber hulks. Stairs was blocked, so I reloaded older save, and went to kitchen and to the forge. In the forge, I was surprised because only FoA+2 was available. I checked on net, where are the heads. I looted Glacias and golem room, and at "1st-floor-clear" the crypt also. I noticed that I am missing the cold head from crypt. I thought that I misplaced it earlier, so I started to reload older saves to check in which save do I have the cold head. I haven't found anything, then I searched here in IA forums, and realized that gate yuan-ti has it. I haven't lowered the bridge yet, because I forgot that and haven't found that stairs outside. Started the search now, but I haven't found again how I can lower the bridge. After a while and net search I've found the stairs outside what I've missed, because I am blind. smile.gif
So FoA+3 was forged and TorGal waited for me. Well it took hours and a lots of tries to kill him. I tried several tactics, but he was immune to all spells, Lower Res could be work, but in this fight you don't have time for that. Chaos, Emotion, Hold Monster didn't work on noble trolls even after GM. I tried to lure trolls and gem golem out, to kill the gem golem while TorGal casting Storm, but then Storm hit that room room. So I realized, best tactic to storm TorGal. I was able to disrupt Storm casting, but dispel was casted, and that was game over always. I realized, I need more offensive, so I tried the wual wield with avanger and Sibel. Well, the THACO was not enoght high with dual wiled, but lower AC meant they were killed more easily. So I need defensive power also, I drunk Potion of Defense with avanger, Potion of Fire G. Str. on RB and Nalia. Now I was able to kill TG 3-4 times, and even disrupt dispel, but I was badly damaged and gem golem + nobel trolls killed at least 1 character. So I changed my spell selection, skipped Chaotic C., it seemed that is not needed here, so avanger had more Ironskins, and Sibel had a Mass Cure. Finally, I was able to kill that bastard. smile.gif

My team:
Avanger: lvl 12, Club+3, Shield of the Lost+2, AC was -14 with Potions of Defense.
Sibel: lvl 11, her club, Saving Grace+3, AC was -12.
RB: lvl 11, FoA+3, Belm, Fire Giant Str.
Kensai: lvl 11, Lilacor
Nalia: lvl 12 mage, 9 fighter, 2 longsword+3, Fire Giant Str.
Neera: lvl 12

2 mountain, bears, Joolon, Kitthix, clan hunter. Full cleric buffs including Free A and Prot. from Fire, buffed clan hunter also.
Avanger tanked TorGal, Nalia moved to get aggro from gem golem. Sibel, clan hunter, kensai on TorGal, RB waited a bit, to avoid a lot of aggro, then attacked TG also. Neera Breach.
Nalia Gr. Malison when reached the golem, and started to attack TG after spell is cast.
Neera Chaos after Breach (no success on trolls), then started RoFs on golem. When TorGal was dead, my summons were dead also except clan hunter, so launched 2 webs from Minor Seq. Avanger, RB, kensai (with staff+3) and Nalia attacked the golem, Neera kept casting RoFs. When golem was dead, started to cast Fireballs and Sunfires with 2 mages.
Used up several healing potions, 1 Heal, 1 Mass Cure, renewed Ironskins once, Stoneskins 2 times on Nalia.

It took appr. 8 hours of playing to clear this keep and kill TG. Nex time ti will be probably 1, max. 2 hours I hope. smile.gif
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Shadan   V7 run   Dec 21 2024, 09:11 PM
DequNew   Good luck! I found with Sibel game is more eas...   Dec 21 2024, 10:03 PM
pekkae   Allright :thumb: Godspeed! I don't ...   Dec 22 2024, 12:11 AM
Shadan   Thanks. :) Finished Umar Hills minor quests. Recr...   Dec 22 2024, 05:19 AM
pekkae   Thanks. :) Another surprise was the noble troll a...   Dec 22 2024, 12:32 PM
critto   That's quite strange that it happened. Did th...   Dec 22 2024, 09:03 AM
Shadan   No horror or any fear effect. Just low HP. Yes,...   Dec 22 2024, 05:26 PM
SparrowJacek   I think the main reason is that you get the Short...   Dec 22 2024, 05:38 PM
pekkae   I think the rewards for that particul stronghold a...   Dec 22 2024, 05:45 PM
Shadan   Thanks! Also I am very dissatisfied with Neer...   Dec 22 2024, 05:50 PM
Sikret   Also I am very dissatisfy with Neera as a a wild m...   Dec 22 2024, 05:59 PM
DequNew   By accepting you get around 40k+ gold (or bit more...   Dec 22 2024, 05:52 PM
Shadan   Thanks Sikret! Great moments in IA when memor...   Dec 22 2024, 09:02 PM
DequNew   Dorn Questline gives some decent experience and th...   Dec 22 2024, 09:40 PM
Shadan   Thanks! Maybe next time, however I don't l...   Dec 23 2024, 02:50 AM
DequNew   Qustion: I pkayed Gaelan. I have some money. Is th...   Dec 23 2024, 12:11 PM
SparrowJacek   Most people (me included) tend to forge Phosphorus...   Dec 23 2024, 03:14 AM
critto   There are some useful early +3 weapons sold in Tr...   Dec 23 2024, 07:43 AM
Sikret   The Improved Ankheg Plate can be improved further ...   Dec 23 2024, 11:07 PM
Shadan   I continue to play after a few days xmas break. My...   Dec 26 2024, 08:25 PM
SparrowJacek   Gauths are susceptible to Emotions spell Well, as...   Dec 26 2024, 08:56 PM
critto   Her damage output with the club is so high I would...   Dec 27 2024, 10:54 AM
Shadan   Weapon proficiencies are not so important for all ...   Dec 28 2024, 06:55 PM
pekkae   My progress: Companion quests: Anomen, Cernd, Hexx...   Dec 28 2024, 10:19 PM
critto   True, although I'd argue that it's much ea...   Dec 28 2024, 07:54 PM
Shadan   Yes. Kit works correctly, and there was not any ...   Dec 28 2024, 10:06 PM
critto   Have you tried leveling up? Maybe that'll cle...   Dec 28 2024, 10:23 PM
Shadan   I checked the problem, and I found that Combat sta...   Dec 29 2024, 03:45 AM
DequNew   Are these spells removed from IA? Minor Sequencer ...   Dec 29 2024, 04:52 AM
critto   Weird. I never really paid attention to that page ...   Dec 29 2024, 09:37 AM
Shadan   No. I didn't want to waste a round, becuuse if...   Dec 29 2024, 07:59 PM
critto   When the spells are already active in the area, th...   Dec 30 2024, 12:26 AM
Shadan   Well, De'Arnise Keep drove me to crazy. Let me...   Dec 30 2024, 10:34 PM
Shadan   Well, I did Sibel's village several times, and...   Jan 1 2025, 08:28 PM
Alva   2 Shade Liches with Skeleton Lords: Well, first th...   Jan 2 2025, 05:10 PM
DequNew   Did you tried Shadow dragon? Might seems hard at f...   Jan 1 2025, 11:28 PM
Shadan   No, I left him, I thought it is impossible at this...   Jan 2 2025, 01:28 AM
Alva   No, I left him, I thought it is impossible at this...   Jan 2 2025, 11:25 PM
critto   Shadow Dragon should generally be doable pre-Spell...   Jan 2 2025, 11:51 AM
critto   The dragon is improved 100%. But it is doable pre-...   Jan 3 2025, 01:47 AM
Shadan   My progress: Planar Prison finished. Neera as a wi...   Jan 4 2025, 04:17 AM
critto   As she levels up and gains her improved gear, her ...   Jan 4 2025, 10:27 AM
Shadan   Is it possible to check wild mage table somewhere?...   Jan 4 2025, 06:20 PM
DequNew   Maybe try resting few days at entrance of sphere   Jan 4 2025, 06:26 PM
Shadan   I went to Umar Hills and Trademeet after Sphere. R...   Jan 4 2025, 06:40 PM
pekkae   What does your journal say? Did you finish the que...   Jan 4 2025, 06:50 PM
Shadan   Thanks, but I won't cheat in normal games. ...   Jan 4 2025, 07:21 PM
DequNew   Send me save game or screen of variables and I can...   Jan 4 2025, 07:46 PM
Shadan   Thanks, I sent a message.   Jan 4 2025, 09:06 PM
critto   There are two testing items (wands) in the game, ...   Jan 5 2025, 12:12 AM
Shadan   Thanks all, who tried to help me. I am happy to se...   Jan 5 2025, 02:54 AM
DequNew   Just found that harder spellhold is 2 more amber c...   Jan 5 2025, 03:43 AM
Shadan   Thanks! What is the limit of Screaming Statue...   Jan 5 2025, 04:23 AM
pekkae   Also I remember, item making is tricky in wizard s...   Jan 5 2025, 02:41 PM
critto   Sorry, missed that one. Right now you can only loo...   Jan 5 2025, 12:39 PM
Shadan   Thanks, I forged the ring of wizardry. Borinall de...   Jan 6 2025, 07:15 PM
DequNew   Conster should be easily doable for you   Jan 6 2025, 07:38 PM
Shadan   Hmm, it seems I messed up ranger stronghold. Any c...   Jan 9 2025, 01:13 AM
critto   Did you get Delon warning you about the attack? Wh...   Jan 9 2025, 01:57 AM
Shadan   Probably, but in new year I have a less time to pl...   Jan 9 2025, 02:05 AM
critto   Try setting OgronAttack to 1 and RangerProtector t...   Jan 9 2025, 09:50 AM
Shadan   Sadly it didn't help. :( I changed both variab...   Jan 9 2025, 10:53 PM
critto   Which phrase exactly does Lloyd gives you when he...   Jan 9 2025, 11:22 PM
Shadan   After I changed OGRONASSAULT also: "Despite a...   Jan 9 2025, 11:31 PM
DequNew   Well things like that are demotivating, but that i...   Jan 9 2025, 11:32 PM
Shadan   Yes, you warned be, I just simply forgot this and ...   Jan 9 2025, 11:37 PM
critto   OK, let's try one more time. Looks like you fa...   Jan 10 2025, 12:16 AM
Shadan   Sadly it is not enough... My save is in Umar Hills...   Jan 10 2025, 12:43 AM
critto   You need to go out of Umar Hills completely, set b...   Jan 10 2025, 12:56 AM
Shadan   OMG, it worked. :) At least at Lloyd... Well not e...   Jan 10 2025, 01:03 AM
critto   Weird stuff. How did you resolve the conflict betw...   Jan 10 2025, 01:21 AM
Shadan   I solved things peacefully between Madulf and Lloy...   Jan 10 2025, 01:40 AM
DequNew   Try to go to cave and spawn madulf manually   Jan 10 2025, 02:44 AM
critto   Yes, I am curious what would happen too if you did...   Jan 10 2025, 11:23 AM
Shadan   I am not expert in this kind of machinations, but ...   Jan 10 2025, 10:38 PM
critto   It's just the vanilla three, unless you'r...   Jan 10 2025, 11:42 PM
Shadan   So my progress report after a long agony with rang...   Jan 11 2025, 02:34 AM
critto   There are some improved fights, but probably not a...   Jan 11 2025, 12:03 PM
Shadan   I've killed shaodw dragon. You were right, was...   Jan 11 2025, 05:55 PM
DequNew   Chapter6 there are so much more available to craft...   Jan 11 2025, 07:02 PM
critto   Locations for Blackblood: Gaal, Torgal, Priest of ...   Jan 12 2025, 01:03 AM
Shadan   I did few quests there, but stopped one quest befo...   Jan 14 2025, 02:15 AM
DequNew   I did few quests there, but stopped one quest befo...   Jan 14 2025, 01:33 PM
critto   Priest of Cyric is the one in the Slaver Ship.   Jan 14 2025, 10:53 AM
Shadan   I've finished Spellhold. Irenicus was not so h...   Jan 15 2025, 06:00 PM
Shadan   Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstri...   Jan 17 2025, 01:58 AM
DequNew   Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstri...   Jan 17 2025, 01:59 AM
DequNew   -   Jan 17 2025, 02:05 AM
Shadan   Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Pr...   Jan 17 2025, 06:49 PM
DequNew   Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Pr...   Jan 18 2025, 12:43 AM
Shadan   For Ust Natha dont miss easily missable quest ...   Jan 18 2025, 05:18 AM
critto   Strange that you've seen him. It is "hidd...   Jan 18 2025, 10:24 AM
Shadan   I figured this out from content page on this site....   Jan 19 2025, 01:07 AM
SparrowJacek   There's the "Deeper than the Underdark...   Jan 19 2025, 01:29 AM
critto   Yes, there are two levels in the tower. That...   Jan 19 2025, 07:45 AM
DequNew   There is enough space to go around ancient golem. ...   Jan 19 2025, 01:29 PM
Shadan   Nowadays I have a little less time to play, and I ...   Jan 27 2025, 03:47 PM
SparrowJacek   Well, the Dracolich is much easier before you get ...   Jan 28 2025, 12:13 AM
Shadan   Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I h...   Jan 28 2025, 01:11 AM
DequNew   Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I h...   Jan 28 2025, 01:31 AM
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