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Shadan
post Dec 21 2024, 09:11 PM
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So, I will try to write my experiences with the game after a very long break from BG2.
No mods. only EoU, IA and IA Tweaks.


Started with:
Avanger prot: club**, dual w*, and then scimitar *
Custom RB: Flail ***, dual w***
Half-orc kensai: 2Hsowrd****, 2HW**

In Irenicus dungeon I relearned to handle the game... Traps and locks caused a problem, then I went for Yoshi (swapped Jaheira out), and was surprised when he didn't find traps also. Well, then I realized trap finding is a clickable skill... smile.gif
Since I played DnD 2e since 1989 for more than 10+ years, then came v3.0, v3.5, Pathfinder etc., so I remember on spells quite good, but I was surprised when MAA DoT was not applied. Then I realized spells are changed in IA quite a lot, so I had to relearn them again.
Lesser elementals caused me a problem, I was not able to damage them with weapons. Imoen's spells were not enough to kill all 3 of them. At end I realized maybe summons can help, rested and bears + clan member killed them very fast.
I was a bit afraid of Ilyich, because I remember on my first IA game, when he killed my protagonist several times and I was hardly able to kill him. Now he was walk in the park. However my tactical skills in this game still abysmal.
PC used Str, 3 Wis and Cha tomes. RB used Con tome.

After the dungeon, I picked Sibel. Suddenly after an IRL memory flash I remembered that donation in temple is good in IA. smile.gif So after a several tries and forum search I donated 4600 gold to get 3 reputations.

Then I did Circus, recruited Aerie. Moved to Slums. Killed annoying guy in Copper Coronet. Recruited Nalia as F->M (swapped out Minsc), recruited Anomen, Korgan and Hexxat. Leveled up Hexxat, increasing her PP skill in hope maybe later I can try some pick pocket things with her. smile.gif Nalia used Int tome. Got Windspear Hills map. Then Bridge to trigger Neera. Government to get Umar map. Gate to get Trademeet quest.

Wild Forest. Swapped Nalia to Neera. Well, 2 ogres from polymorph trap used hardiness and GWW... Was a big surprise and a big death. smile.gif Killed them on 2nd try.
Anyway I did 2 minor quests in Hidden Refugee, and left to Umar Hills.

A question: Shall I pay for Cowled Wizards later? I remember that in first BG2 runs, I've never payed, just killed them. But in IA maybe it is too much hindrace to skip arcane magic in the town.

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Shadan
post Dec 26 2024, 08:25 PM
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I continue to play after a few days xmas break.
My progression so far (not in this exact order):

Umar Hills, except Temple Ruins.
Full Trademeet, except Founder quest.
Druid stronghold and 1st quest.
Suna Senai: It was a bit hard, because that mage is untouchable. I killed cleric fast, Gr. Command and Emotion took care of Suna and others. Than I endured that mage until his protections was faded. Confusion, Chaos etc. was a bit hard and messy.
Bridge District murder
Fallen Paladins
Copper Coronet backroom including Beastmaster.
Payed to Gaelan Bayne
Maevar quest line, refused stronghold to get +3 piercing.
Temple Sewers (exc. adventurer party, but including horrid rakshasa). To tell the truth I kited here quite long. I kited him while his Abs. Imm. was up, and tried to run away from Abi-Dalzim, so only 1, max. 2 character was hit by that nasty spell.smile.gif
Graveyard quests (Tirdir, Wellyn, Risa)
Cult of Eyeless: It was hard. I was not able to find any good solution for multiple gauths and they have incredible DPS on this level. Unseeing Eye was hard also. 4 good melee chars, clan hunter, mountain bears and fire elemental, all buffed. Breach on UE, while Neera kept him busy with spell protections, like Spell Imm, Minor Globe etc. UE had an urgent surge to cast RRR and similar spells on Neera. Melees was able to distrupt his spellcasting several times, so no Abi-Dalzim. However that 90% resistance to all was a bit hard...

Finally Sibel got her thieving skills back. So I went to De'Arnise Keep, and swapped Yoshi to Nalia. Cleared 1st floor, but vengeance trolls were too hard. I went back to BG and started minor companion quests. Swapped Nalia to Hexxat and started her quest. After I did all unmodded and doable companion quests, I will get back Nalia.

My concern now is the weapon distribution:
Avanger PC will use clubs dual wielded, spears as piercing.
Sibel: her own club, hammers (Crom), maces. As a piercing or slashing I don't have a clue...
Both of them are using shield atm. for better tanking.

RB: clearly flails and axes.
Kensai: staves, halberds, 2handed swords. Now she is using 2Hsword.
Nalia: I am planning to use 2handed weapons with her. Staves and whatever.
Neera. Not really important.

I am thinking that I don't have a good long sword user and Crom is not the best at Sibel, maybe. Plus 2 fighters with 2 handed weapons maybe a bit too much, one could be enough, and kensai could be a dual wielder. I don' know.


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Shadan   V7 run   Dec 21 2024, 09:11 PM
DequNew   Good luck! I found with Sibel game is more eas...   Dec 21 2024, 10:03 PM
pekkae   Allright :thumb: Godspeed! I don't ...   Dec 22 2024, 12:11 AM
Shadan   Thanks. :) Finished Umar Hills minor quests. Recr...   Dec 22 2024, 05:19 AM
pekkae   Thanks. :) Another surprise was the noble troll a...   Dec 22 2024, 12:32 PM
critto   That's quite strange that it happened. Did th...   Dec 22 2024, 09:03 AM
Shadan   No horror or any fear effect. Just low HP. Yes,...   Dec 22 2024, 05:26 PM
SparrowJacek   I think the main reason is that you get the Short...   Dec 22 2024, 05:38 PM
pekkae   I think the rewards for that particul stronghold a...   Dec 22 2024, 05:45 PM
Shadan   Thanks! Also I am very dissatisfied with Neer...   Dec 22 2024, 05:50 PM
Sikret   Also I am very dissatisfy with Neera as a a wild m...   Dec 22 2024, 05:59 PM
DequNew   By accepting you get around 40k+ gold (or bit more...   Dec 22 2024, 05:52 PM
Shadan   Thanks Sikret! Great moments in IA when memor...   Dec 22 2024, 09:02 PM
DequNew   Dorn Questline gives some decent experience and th...   Dec 22 2024, 09:40 PM
Shadan   Thanks! Maybe next time, however I don't l...   Dec 23 2024, 02:50 AM
DequNew   Qustion: I pkayed Gaelan. I have some money. Is th...   Dec 23 2024, 12:11 PM
SparrowJacek   Most people (me included) tend to forge Phosphorus...   Dec 23 2024, 03:14 AM
critto   There are some useful early +3 weapons sold in Tr...   Dec 23 2024, 07:43 AM
Sikret   The Improved Ankheg Plate can be improved further ...   Dec 23 2024, 11:07 PM
Shadan   I continue to play after a few days xmas break. My...   Dec 26 2024, 08:25 PM
SparrowJacek   Gauths are susceptible to Emotions spell Well, as...   Dec 26 2024, 08:56 PM
critto   Her damage output with the club is so high I would...   Dec 27 2024, 10:54 AM
Shadan   Weapon proficiencies are not so important for all ...   Dec 28 2024, 06:55 PM
pekkae   My progress: Companion quests: Anomen, Cernd, Hexx...   Dec 28 2024, 10:19 PM
critto   True, although I'd argue that it's much ea...   Dec 28 2024, 07:54 PM
Shadan   Yes. Kit works correctly, and there was not any ...   Dec 28 2024, 10:06 PM
critto   Have you tried leveling up? Maybe that'll cle...   Dec 28 2024, 10:23 PM
Shadan   I checked the problem, and I found that Combat sta...   Dec 29 2024, 03:45 AM
DequNew   Are these spells removed from IA? Minor Sequencer ...   Dec 29 2024, 04:52 AM
critto   Weird. I never really paid attention to that page ...   Dec 29 2024, 09:37 AM
Shadan   No. I didn't want to waste a round, becuuse if...   Dec 29 2024, 07:59 PM
critto   When the spells are already active in the area, th...   Dec 30 2024, 12:26 AM
Shadan   Well, De'Arnise Keep drove me to crazy. Let me...   Dec 30 2024, 10:34 PM
Shadan   Well, I did Sibel's village several times, and...   Jan 1 2025, 08:28 PM
Alva   2 Shade Liches with Skeleton Lords: Well, first th...   Jan 2 2025, 05:10 PM
DequNew   Did you tried Shadow dragon? Might seems hard at f...   Jan 1 2025, 11:28 PM
Shadan   No, I left him, I thought it is impossible at this...   Jan 2 2025, 01:28 AM
Alva   No, I left him, I thought it is impossible at this...   Jan 2 2025, 11:25 PM
critto   Shadow Dragon should generally be doable pre-Spell...   Jan 2 2025, 11:51 AM
critto   The dragon is improved 100%. But it is doable pre-...   Jan 3 2025, 01:47 AM
Shadan   My progress: Planar Prison finished. Neera as a wi...   Jan 4 2025, 04:17 AM
critto   As she levels up and gains her improved gear, her ...   Jan 4 2025, 10:27 AM
Shadan   Is it possible to check wild mage table somewhere?...   Jan 4 2025, 06:20 PM
DequNew   Maybe try resting few days at entrance of sphere   Jan 4 2025, 06:26 PM
Shadan   I went to Umar Hills and Trademeet after Sphere. R...   Jan 4 2025, 06:40 PM
pekkae   What does your journal say? Did you finish the que...   Jan 4 2025, 06:50 PM
Shadan   Thanks, but I won't cheat in normal games. ...   Jan 4 2025, 07:21 PM
DequNew   Send me save game or screen of variables and I can...   Jan 4 2025, 07:46 PM
Shadan   Thanks, I sent a message.   Jan 4 2025, 09:06 PM
critto   There are two testing items (wands) in the game, ...   Jan 5 2025, 12:12 AM
Shadan   Thanks all, who tried to help me. I am happy to se...   Jan 5 2025, 02:54 AM
DequNew   Just found that harder spellhold is 2 more amber c...   Jan 5 2025, 03:43 AM
Shadan   Thanks! What is the limit of Screaming Statue...   Jan 5 2025, 04:23 AM
pekkae   Also I remember, item making is tricky in wizard s...   Jan 5 2025, 02:41 PM
critto   Sorry, missed that one. Right now you can only loo...   Jan 5 2025, 12:39 PM
Shadan   Thanks, I forged the ring of wizardry. Borinall de...   Jan 6 2025, 07:15 PM
DequNew   Conster should be easily doable for you   Jan 6 2025, 07:38 PM
Shadan   Hmm, it seems I messed up ranger stronghold. Any c...   Jan 9 2025, 01:13 AM
critto   Did you get Delon warning you about the attack? Wh...   Jan 9 2025, 01:57 AM
Shadan   Probably, but in new year I have a less time to pl...   Jan 9 2025, 02:05 AM
critto   Try setting OgronAttack to 1 and RangerProtector t...   Jan 9 2025, 09:50 AM
Shadan   Sadly it didn't help. :( I changed both variab...   Jan 9 2025, 10:53 PM
critto   Which phrase exactly does Lloyd gives you when he...   Jan 9 2025, 11:22 PM
Shadan   After I changed OGRONASSAULT also: "Despite a...   Jan 9 2025, 11:31 PM
DequNew   Well things like that are demotivating, but that i...   Jan 9 2025, 11:32 PM
Shadan   Yes, you warned be, I just simply forgot this and ...   Jan 9 2025, 11:37 PM
critto   OK, let's try one more time. Looks like you fa...   Jan 10 2025, 12:16 AM
Shadan   Sadly it is not enough... My save is in Umar Hills...   Jan 10 2025, 12:43 AM
critto   You need to go out of Umar Hills completely, set b...   Jan 10 2025, 12:56 AM
Shadan   OMG, it worked. :) At least at Lloyd... Well not e...   Jan 10 2025, 01:03 AM
critto   Weird stuff. How did you resolve the conflict betw...   Jan 10 2025, 01:21 AM
Shadan   I solved things peacefully between Madulf and Lloy...   Jan 10 2025, 01:40 AM
DequNew   Try to go to cave and spawn madulf manually   Jan 10 2025, 02:44 AM
critto   Yes, I am curious what would happen too if you did...   Jan 10 2025, 11:23 AM
Shadan   I am not expert in this kind of machinations, but ...   Jan 10 2025, 10:38 PM
critto   It's just the vanilla three, unless you'r...   Jan 10 2025, 11:42 PM
Shadan   So my progress report after a long agony with rang...   Jan 11 2025, 02:34 AM
critto   There are some improved fights, but probably not a...   Jan 11 2025, 12:03 PM
Shadan   I've killed shaodw dragon. You were right, was...   Jan 11 2025, 05:55 PM
DequNew   Chapter6 there are so much more available to craft...   Jan 11 2025, 07:02 PM
critto   Locations for Blackblood: Gaal, Torgal, Priest of ...   Jan 12 2025, 01:03 AM
Shadan   I did few quests there, but stopped one quest befo...   Jan 14 2025, 02:15 AM
DequNew   I did few quests there, but stopped one quest befo...   Jan 14 2025, 01:33 PM
critto   Priest of Cyric is the one in the Slaver Ship.   Jan 14 2025, 10:53 AM
Shadan   I've finished Spellhold. Irenicus was not so h...   Jan 15 2025, 06:00 PM
Shadan   Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstri...   Jan 17 2025, 01:58 AM
DequNew   Does it worth to kill Vithal? Inc. Clod, Spellstri...   Jan 17 2025, 01:59 AM
DequNew   -   Jan 17 2025, 02:05 AM
Shadan   Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Pr...   Jan 17 2025, 06:49 PM
DequNew   Finished sahuagin city: Too bad I cannot choose Pr...   Jan 18 2025, 12:43 AM
Shadan   For Ust Natha dont miss easily missable quest ...   Jan 18 2025, 05:18 AM
critto   Strange that you've seen him. It is "hidd...   Jan 18 2025, 10:24 AM
Shadan   I figured this out from content page on this site....   Jan 19 2025, 01:07 AM
SparrowJacek   There's the "Deeper than the Underdark...   Jan 19 2025, 01:29 AM
critto   Yes, there are two levels in the tower. That...   Jan 19 2025, 07:45 AM
DequNew   There is enough space to go around ancient golem. ...   Jan 19 2025, 01:29 PM
Shadan   Nowadays I have a little less time to play, and I ...   Jan 27 2025, 03:47 PM
SparrowJacek   Well, the Dracolich is much easier before you get ...   Jan 28 2025, 12:13 AM
Shadan   Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I h...   Jan 28 2025, 01:11 AM
DequNew   Thanks. Sadly I am planning to do that sword. I h...   Jan 28 2025, 01:31 AM
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