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[mikel123]

Overall this has been a lot of fun so far. Albeit quite a GRIND. Tons of running back and forth from challenge to challenge... every time I get a new item or spell or level, to give another shot at the previously impossible challenges.

While some of the shop prices seem silly (Nymph's Cloak for example), I do like the emphasis on money. I'm maybe halfway through Chapter 2/3 and have 75k gold and don't want to spend any of it!

As far as comments/suggestions, here is my .02.

I think the Paladin kit nerf for Inquisitor makes sense. Cavalier, not so much. Fear is one of the easiest immunities to acquire, thanks to the level 2 spell. And the entire nerf of paladins (the "Turn Paladin" ability) seems unwarranted. When the grandmastery "fix" is recommended, that's your Paladin nerf right there. There's an extraordinary benefit to having a fighter class, which IMO outweighs the benefits of any Paladin.

Thieves aren't of much use here, which is well known. I've mentioned in another thread I think, that I'd suggest removing the ability entirely. It's only useful against enemies you don't want to use it against anyways. I think the HLA abilities of Evasion or Avoid Death might be a flavorful replacement.

I also think you could make thieves more useful again with some edits to the traps in the game. I don't know how feasible this is, but if a trap was randomized... that is, you didn't know if it would be a petrify trap, a fireball trap, a level drain trap, etc... you wouldn't be able to just buff one character with the appropriate defense (since we know all the existing vanilla trap effects) and open it. Additionally, adding some higher level traps (i.e. casting Comet, or Creeping Doom or something) would be cool too. That would also let thieves have some usefulness.

Bounty Hunter, Beastmaster, and Monk could use some beefing up. The kits provided in this mod are cool, but extremely powerful. It would be nice for the mod to allow more diverse parties on initial playthroughs. For example, the monk could be shifted a little towards a Riskbreaker, ability-wise, to allow it to be more used in the game.

For areas like the Trademeet Crypt, which seems like some kind of no-magic zone, it would be nice to put the status icon on characters like they do in the Watcher's Keep level 3 no-magic zones.

One other thing I'd suggest is more complete documentation around the special quests and items. Especially since many of them appear to be protagonist class dependent, it would be nice to be able to pick your class based on some of this.

As I said above, all in all this is a very enthralling mod and I've enjoyed the challenge thus far. Looking forward to continuing to explore.

[mikel123]

First, Sikret, your comment is obnoxious and childish and I'm bummed that I read it again when I opened this thread.

Nicoper/Vuki, you guys are kind of proving my point, aren't you? If I walked in here and said I was going to try this mod with a party of PC Monk, Yoshimo, Jaheira, Minsc, and Edwin, you'd tell me I was in for a rough time. The fact that one can easily complete the game with such a party on their 5th run through (or perhaps not, given Nicoper's failure to win with one of those custom parties above?) is irrelevant to what I was saying.

On a side note, what's EDE? Is that BG2 lingo, or IA lingo?

[Sikret]

First, Sikret, your comment is obnoxious and childish

Not really. Starting to judge the mod before even completing it for once is a bit premature. But no hard feelings here. I even used smileys.

What Nicoper, me and others recommended is that you start playing the mod with a strong party and recommended protagonist types in your first couple runs. Once you get more experienced with the mod you can indeed play other classes and kits more easily. Playing the recommended party compositions will also give you the opportunity to see more new content and quests added to the game by the mod.

On a side note, what's EDE? Is that BG2 lingo, or IA lingo?

EDE = Epic Divine Encounter. It is from IA.