Old One fight using cheese and exploit, Topic split from the Journal of 4 mages... Options

[Krell]

Well, that party composition doesn't seem like a weak one or anything, it could probably even manage to run a successful Ironman insane no-reload. A Necro + 2 Riskbreakers by themselves are a force big enough to defeat any foe. For example an in-game NPC party (no pre-generated characters except for PC) would have one hell of a tough time in an Ironman insane run.

As for protection vs Imprisonment, carefully timing your Mass Invisibility casting with all your mages (and I think they all should have it, sorceress included) will protect your two Riskbreakers by making them invisible right after enemy's True Sight kicks in for the current round.

But it's an impressive run nonetheless, despite reloading and all, good job.

EDIT: As a side note, I just read the article on the 'Story of the Old One' battle. And despite the tactic seems sound, there is a much better and easier way to win that fight, even without relying on the Old One at all. Surely, he will steal a kill or even two with his Improved Disrupt Undead, but even if he wasn't there, a solo Necro can still defeat the3 Grave Liches in 100 out of 100 attempts. 19 out of 20 is too risky for an Ironman run IMHO.

This post has been edited by Krell: Apr 23 2013, 03:03 PM

[nicoper]

@Krell
Ok, let's wait for that, I confess that (since WISH does not work) I cannot understand how a Necro can kill more than one grave lich alone here (be it a 36th lvl Necro), asked about it I would claim it is not possible without heavy blatant cheese (My argument would be how does your Necro and summons inflict enough damages?)

PS: can you PM me the links of the video you spoke earlier to Sikret? (I won't post it of course, even if it is a lvl 36 Necro, I would like to see it)

[Krell]

@Krell
Ok, let's wait for that, I confess that (since WISH does not work) I cannot understand how a Necro can kill more than one grave lich alone here (be it a 36th lvl Necro), asked about it I would claim it is not possible without heavy blatant cheese (My argument would be how does your Necro and summons inflict enough damages?)

PS: can you PM me the links of the video you spoke earlier to Sikret? (I won't post it of course, even if it is a lvl 36 Necro, I would like to see it)

No problem, but I still have to make one Will take some time, just be patient.

By the way, I don't suppose that if the Old One dies you'll get the rest of the Expanded Mage Stronghold quests? Never did I let him die, so I dunno. But will make maybe even a 25-th mage video of that fight, when it's 3 on 1 - all grave liches vs PC 25lvl necro, with no Old One in the way - will let them kill the Old One so that he won't mess things up.