Old One fight using cheese and exploit, Topic split from the Journal of 4 mages... Options

[Krell]

Well, that party composition doesn't seem like a weak one or anything, it could probably even manage to run a successful Ironman insane no-reload. A Necro + 2 Riskbreakers by themselves are a force big enough to defeat any foe. For example an in-game NPC party (no pre-generated characters except for PC) would have one hell of a tough time in an Ironman insane run.

As for protection vs Imprisonment, carefully timing your Mass Invisibility casting with all your mages (and I think they all should have it, sorceress included) will protect your two Riskbreakers by making them invisible right after enemy's True Sight kicks in for the current round.

But it's an impressive run nonetheless, despite reloading and all, good job.

EDIT: As a side note, I just read the article on the 'Story of the Old One' battle. And despite the tactic seems sound, there is a much better and easier way to win that fight, even without relying on the Old One at all. Surely, he will steal a kill or even two with his Improved Disrupt Undead, but even if he wasn't there, a solo Necro can still defeat the3 Grave Liches in 100 out of 100 attempts. 19 out of 20 is too risky for an Ironman run IMHO.

This post has been edited by Krell: Apr 23 2013, 03:03 PM

[nicoper]

@krell:
Hi, once again, I don't mind if you enjoy your game playing it as you do (and why should I mind, after all it is a game and we are all grown up adults for a vast majority I presume ), but maybe you should start a specific thread with your hints, clues and so because it could be very confusing for people who read this thread to have views from two completly different ways to handle IA (my journal and comments are irrelevant if someone plays as you do, same can be said if someone tries the game as I did and refers to your advices).
That said, it's all right with me to share with you different game experience, I welcome your comments and don't want at all to cast you out of this thread .

Side note, you mention things (gold/xp exploits for example) that are clearly not the mod designer (Sikret) cup of tea and add you won't reveal them. It could be (misleadingly I am sure it is not your intent ) taken as some kind of provocation.

I don't mind people using them, I don't mind exploit existing in the game. Either you think they should be removed and ask Sikret for that (will increase insane no-reload challenge ) or you say they exist and where for those who like them and ask Sikret to leave them as they are. Confess I don't see the point of saying "those exploits exist but I won't say where" (If only because if I was a player who wants to know about those, I would just be frustrated you say they exist but don't reveal them).

Question about old one fight; I had at first a nightmarish experience because I was showered with stellar gravestone, PW stun. Once I found out a way to handle it (not what you would qualify as a no-reload, but let's say that now I win it without reload 80% (which is all right for me ) one of my main objective is to finish each grave lich as fast as possible one after the other. As I understood your clues, it seems fight lasts a long for your Necro. Even with a Necro titanic spellbook, how do you manage that?
Another interrogation is about your level 7 and level 8 spell pick (I had dilemna at the time balancing number of RRoR, spell turning and DU ), could be interesting to compare if we have some common or very different picks (according to our respective ways to play )
(I usually opt for 6 RRoR and 3 ST at level 7, Foreknowledge, Prot from energy, 3 pierce shiel and 2 MS VI, of course I am much lower level so less slots than you)