kit creation question Options

[lroumen]

Hello everyone.

I am attempting to create a kit, but I run into a problem and I would like to hear some opinions.

I was thinking that since you cannot change the layout of the functional buttons, you may be able to change their behaviour. So I figured, since the bard already has a thieving button for his pick pocket skill, would it be possible to give a bardkit the ability to pick locks and remove traps?

1. I have attempted to add an OPEN_LOCKS line into the bard 2da right under his pick pocket ability, but I'm guessing that that never gets read by the game.
2. Next I tried to give him thieving points with shadowkeeper to see it that worked in any way. But when I detected a trap with another thief I simply could not get the trap disable button with the bard.

So I guess my current conclusion is that the bardic thieving button only works for pick pocketing. Now that means that it must have some of its natural capabilities disabled by the game (the pick locks and remove traps ability). Therefore, I wonder if anyone has ever looked further into the game to see how these abilities are removed. Since it is possible to disable a functional button using an op-code, maybe part of the thieving has also been disabled with an op-code and can be undisabed (reenabled).

It is also possible that thieving for thieves is added by thieving points, whereas the thieving for other classes (monk, ranger, bard) is added through a 2da. It does not seem possible to have a non-thief class to get thieving points per level, so perhaps additional thieving skills are impossible for the other classes as well.



Lastly I think I will probably be able to fix the usability of a bardkit as a semi-thief by giving it a few knocks per day and a few find traps spells per day as kit ability. That makes him all-purpose in the end, but too powerful due to 100% successrate for the skills. Is it possible to have the spells efficiency scale per level (knock and find traps are only effective for trap difficulty of 50% or less for instance, to be increased upon level ups)? I'm guessing that the answer is no, but perhaps I'm wrong. Related to this, is it possible to re-memorise the casting of a spell after it has been used but without requiring sleep? That way I only need to give 1 knock and 1 find traps as kit ability, but that still does not give it proper scalability (such that it does not become overpowered compared to a normal thief who has scalability of the thieving skills).

Thanks for the responses.

[lroumen]

Update:

- class changing fixed. it is working properly
- djinni dialogue fixed for 1 party member (I can do it with the locals, but the dialogue gets messed up when you kick party members out. bonuses should work okay, just the text will be botched)
- bardsong change in clab (at level 1)
- levelup bonuses not put into the clab (since when you switch classes you regain them all), but put into baf (and it works)
- gain some abilities at certain levels (through baf scripting)

I will be testing a few last things before finalising everything and then I will release a version for people that are interested in how I did this stuff. I generally don't mind if not many people are interested because this modding attempt is something for myself


I will probably bring out 2 versions.
- personal version, where the kit has some abilities such as thieving upon level up, spells/skills/abilities per level up, a personal weapon spell, a personal overpowered bardsong and enhanced bardsong, a dialogue to recheck the progress of the thieving skills.

- vanilla version only contains class switching and thieving upon level up. nothing else. It will contain the thievingbonuses per level up but no dialogue to recheck the progress (it only has the dialogue to upgrade), no bardsong, no weapon spell, no bardsong change, etc... this is for people who do not like my changes and if they want they can tune the kit whichever they want. Notes will be added such as "do not put anything in the CLAB, but use a baf script".

- Next version: djinni dialogue fix for all party members (if I can figure out the code). class switching and thieving per level should probably work in the current version though.

ETA: mid to end December 2009.

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[Jarno Mikkola]

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This post has been edited by Jarno Mikkola: Nov 23 2009, 10:05 PM