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[Baronius]

First of all, I would like to react to Rigel's post (see the general part of my post in its last paragraphs):

it's mold in the meaning of "moisissure" in French. That is why the golem is green.

I began modding by making my own trad of The Grey Clan cause i really liked it and was thinking "wow it's one of the greatest mod ever why its not already traduced in french!!!" and despite the fact that the Doghmatiques where working on it already with your agreement (i'm a rebel). So i've made the trad of The Grey Clan quite entierly and i traduced "mold" after big brainstorming by "moisissure " like you say . In the french current trad made by the Doghmatiques "mold golem" is traduced by "golem de mousse"; "mousse" means its like a bob sponge golem or something like that ; i'll speak about that detail to Graoumf the coordinator of the Doghmatiques or maybe you can change it yourself in the .tra if you want Baronius, after all it's your MOD; however the trad is good and it's a detail !

Here one exemple of a line from the current trad :

@77 = ~Animer le Golem de Mousse~

Too bad for The Grey Clan Episode 2 but maybe a day ! I know it's hard work to mod and it takes so much time...

See you one day when i'll got to ask for a prefix and i wish the best to you and BWL

Thank you for your kind words and reassurance about GCE2. One day when I both have enough time and motivation/mood to prefer (i.e. to give better priority to) GCE2 and my modding, I might return to it.

About the mold golem: yes, inform Graoumf about it, so they can update their own translation. I will update in GCE1 in the next update I'll release (I don't know when it will be; probably not in the near future), I think I have other things to include in it anyway (such as the Russian translation); currently, these things are available through the GCE forum to players.

The general part. My principles about translations:

• I find quality important in every respect (especially with the technical design and implementation of mods), however, I have no time to deal with translation verification. (It would be quite complicated to get reliable help for each given language, to get the quality of translations verified, which teams to prefer etc., it just wouldn't be worth it, obviously.) So I trust the skills of the translators who translate the mod to their own language.
• Due to the above, I usually say yes to the first translator who would like to translate my given mod (and unless there are serious counter-arguments to it, this translation will be considered the "official" one included in the mod).
• While I don't intend to spend time with the translation aspect (generally, I don't intend to -- and mostly cannot -- spend much IE modding-related time), I'm open to examine individual cases. So if a person believes that the team has made a really poor work in a translation to his/her language (or just has some suggestions) and his/her requests have been ignored by the original translator(s), he or she can contact me. As far as it's possible, I will examine these cases to find an alternative (for example, even my mod can contain two translations in the same language, and players can choose; of course, these are exceptional cases).

[Rigel]

Rigel was the only one to report in one year

Maybe cause i was the only other who traduced The Grey Clan in french and if a player didn't play with english dialogs : he can't notice the difference !

Mold was one of the terms i pass most days to think about, and after much thinkings and advices it was really clear that the best french word for "mold" is "moisissure"

In the dialogs it saids that the golem is made of "green Mold" it means it's some "moisissures vertes", cause Moss is already green so it would be a pleonasm say it that way : like if you say some white milk !

That's true that mold can product some kind of moss so if it's a "Mold Golem" he probably got some moldy moss somewhere betwen the legs... but you doenst' call a Steel Golem a Rusty Golem just because it can become rusty or the author would have call it Rust Golem.

The important difference between Mold and Moss it that Mold is champs who can products some spores, projections and some dangerous gazes and that Moss is a vegetable, a plant.

The fact is that if you say it's a "Golem de mousse" (Moss golem) people can't know if this Moss come from Mold or if it's vegetable Moss.

In my opinion traduce "Mold Golem" by "Golem de Mousse" make me think seriously it's a vegetable moss golem and less seriously that it's a kind of humanoïd green sponge.

Other languages traductors traduced it by "Moisisssure" or "Moisi"

Golem di Muffa --> "Golem de moisissure"
Schimmelgolems --> "Golem de moissisure"
el Gólem Mohoso --> "Golem moisi"

Traducing by "Golem de mousse" you change the Baronius "Mold Golem" in "Moss Golem".

If we must change our translation for one man, for each mods, well... it will be endless

Don't think Baronius want change a trad just for fun or make pleasure to me but for all the players who will play his mod and to deliver the best quality !