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post Feb 11 2009, 07:06 PM
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Okay. Really, the mod is totally fun and pleasure, but in the name of all that sacred, next version should ease up on spiders a little bit.
I thought 2 drow ambushes were hard to beat with those annoying spiders being everywhere. Apparantly, I was mistaken.
Deeper underdark. Cave with an instant supply of whisper spiders (where they just keeping coming from nowhere). Really, how can I beat this thing? They dispel everything, they somehow draw characters from place to themselves, and sometimes they just kill chars instantly. Why is that? Why no info about the damage being done or save-throw being made (dwarf-kensai, instantly dead. huh?). And, finally, there are just TOO DAMN much of them, my characters can't handle them, even though I have a fighter-heavy party (vagrant, kensai, blade, berserker-cleric, sorc, thief/mage). I am doing buffs, of course, but they are being dispelled very soon and there is no point and time in refreshing them. Summons doesn't help much too (tried 5 hasted mordy swords). Tried magic (adwh, chain lightnings), but they are magic resistant, as it seems.
I am no great tactician, but how am I supposed to win that battle? :) Just keep reloading and hope for better save-throws and no instant-kills? I would be really glad to have some advices on that battle. This is the first one in the game which makes me feel annoyed, instead of being interested, having fun and searching for better tactics.
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post Apr 22 2009, 06:58 PM
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Well, I think this little experiment is over. I've been playing with my current party, and I find it a bit ineffective for IA. Mostly, because of three things (two of which were pointed out by Kerkes):
1. The effectiveness of swashbuckler drops dramatically during the course of the game. She was doing nothing, basically, in Underdark, except maybe for an occasional dispel of enemies' illusions or a fight with the sidekick goons. I figure she won't become more effective later on without fighters' HLAs. I guess, we'll have to wait for IA6, where swashbucklers will be improved by Sikret.
2. Lack of pure cleric. r/c is a really good tank, but having a 12-13 level cleric in Underdark doesn't really help. Some fights I find nearly undoable (I'll write an example a bit later).
3. Not enough magical firepower. f/m progresses in levels very slowly, and having a single sorc is not enough to handle all the magical stuff.

To summarize, this party is not as effective as I first considered. I am playing the Underdark part, and some battles are basically undoable for me. For example, I am stuck right now with Noble Djinni (Deirex' treasure cave). He's too tough to kill in melee (has anyone actually accomplished such a thing?), and I do not have enough magical power to kill him before he regenerates or finishes off my fighters (who might've hold on if only I had pure cleric with Greater Restoration on board). I won't even mention the battle with the Demon Knights in Demogorgon temple... smile.gif
I guess, maybe I just not skilled enough to play with that kind of party yet, but well, as Sikret has written in IA's readme, one should draw a learning curve for himself. I find the current game a little too tough for my liking, which kind of takes out the fun, and what's the point of playing the game without having fun? So I'll drop this party for now and maybe start another one. Well, anyway, sorry if someone liked the idea of me writing the report, since, obviously, I won't be publishing it now. Not for that party, at least.

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post Apr 22 2009, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(critto @ Apr 22 2009, 07:58 PM) *
To summarize, this party is not as effective as I first considered. I am playing the Underdark part, and some battles are basically undoable for me. For example, I am stuck right now with Noble Djinni (Deirex' treasure cave). He's too tough to kill in melee (has anyone actually accomplished such a thing?)


Sure, it's very possible.

Describe the problems in the battle (i.e. what exactly is killing you) if you want and I will try to give some advice. Even if you don't continue with this party, maybe it'll help for the future.
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critto   Critto's v5 journal   Feb 11 2009, 07:06 PM
Kerkes   Spider drain stats like Inteligence and Wisdom, mu...   Feb 11 2009, 07:41 PM
Raven   Try prot evil, def harmony, low AC is good here. A...   Feb 11 2009, 09:16 PM
Sikret   Whisper Spiders don't have the ability to inst...   Feb 11 2009, 07:49 PM
critto   Well, that certainly explains things. Even I don...   Feb 11 2009, 08:26 PM
Sikret   Well, that certainly explains things. Even I don...   Feb 11 2009, 09:02 PM
Kerkes   yes, emotion works on the other type of spiders, s...   Feb 11 2009, 09:53 PM
critto   Well, I finally managed to beat those things. Used...   Feb 12 2009, 07:04 AM
Sikret   I have one more question. As I remember, one of th...   Feb 14 2009, 09:59 AM
critto   2 Sikret: Well, what are you gonna do, huh? I...   Feb 15 2009, 07:46 AM
matti   He's really not that bad compared to Green Wyr...   Feb 16 2009, 08:03 AM
critto   Heh. Finally finished off The Mighty One. Tried un...   Feb 19 2009, 03:36 PM
Sikret   Congratulations, Critto! These are no longer ...   Feb 19 2009, 03:59 PM
critto   2 Sikret: Indeed, they are not. Thank you for cr...   Feb 19 2009, 04:59 PM
Sikret   By the way, have you read about the bug I've m...   Feb 19 2009, 05:09 PM
critto   I certainly never attacked him, of that I am sure...   Feb 19 2009, 05:39 PM
Sikret   As I said, even if you attacked the Cursed Ghost, ...   Feb 19 2009, 07:00 PM
critto   It seems like a logical explanation, but there wer...   Feb 20 2009, 05:42 AM
critto   I have two questions. 1. About the Shimmering Lig...   Feb 20 2009, 04:14 PM
Sikret   Yes, just play all other IA quests normally, you...   Feb 21 2009, 11:10 AM
critto   Sikret, thanks for the answers. I have also a prob...   Feb 22 2009, 01:08 PM
Sikret   You have most certainly killed the dominated rang...   Feb 22 2009, 01:39 PM
critto   Indeed. Why didn't I thought of that. By the w...   Feb 22 2009, 01:54 PM
Sikret   Indeed. Why didn't I thought of that. By the w...   Feb 22 2009, 02:09 PM
critto   2 Sikret. I finished the Shimmering Light quest....   Feb 22 2009, 05:19 PM
Sikret   Killed the Grandfather of Assassins, got the rewar...   Feb 22 2009, 05:39 PM
critto   2 Sikret: Well, that's a shame. Maybe I...   Feb 23 2009, 08:22 AM
Frazurblu   You can still find it.   Feb 24 2009, 12:51 AM
critto   Thanks for the hint, Frazurblu! I think I migh...   Feb 24 2009, 12:08 PM
critto   Sikret, sorry about the spoiler about 48-sided gem...   Feb 25 2009, 04:21 PM
Sikret   Sikret, sorry about the spoiler about 48-sided gem...   Feb 25 2009, 06:34 PM
matti   On the Githyanki Supreme Leader (cool name btw.) f...   Feb 25 2009, 06:11 PM
critto   matti, thanks for your input on the Supreme Leader...   Feb 26 2009, 08:58 AM
Sikret   I buffed him with Improved Haste, Offensive Spin a...   Feb 26 2009, 10:06 AM
critto   Oh, I didn't know that this was a bug. I thou...   Feb 26 2009, 11:24 AM
Sikret   By the way, Melodic Fury ring gives Blade permanen...   Feb 26 2009, 11:39 AM
critto   That's bad. Well, Blade still quite a winner u...   Feb 27 2009, 10:35 AM
critto   Okay, I finally managed to beat Yaga-Shura. In ord...   Mar 2 2009, 07:05 AM
critto   Haven't written for a while. Not that there is...   Mar 12 2009, 05:37 PM
Kerkes   For your questions: 1.Cernd is worth while and m...   Mar 13 2009, 01:43 PM
critto   Thanks for your comments, Kerkes! 1. I think ...   Mar 13 2009, 03:09 PM
Frazurblu   Cavalier is definetly the way to go as their immun...   Mar 13 2009, 09:58 PM
Kerkes   Clerics won't turn any paladin, for as long as...   Mar 17 2009, 09:45 AM
critto   So, I finally made a decision regarding the party ...   Apr 2 2009, 02:25 PM
Raven   r/c's Hold person seems to have taken effect o...   Apr 2 2009, 03:34 PM
critto   Agree. I also noticed that if character is held a...   Apr 2 2009, 04:15 PM
Sikret   [quote name='critto' post='39515' date='Apr 2 2009...   Apr 5 2009, 09:47 AM
Kerkes   Some toughts of mine just for you: Swash is very ...   Apr 4 2009, 01:02 PM
critto   Yeah, I know. Things could get tough for swashi in...   Apr 4 2009, 02:06 PM
critto   Updated journal post with some new adventures.   Apr 6 2009, 12:52 PM
Sikret   @Critto Casting Ruby Ray spell from a scroll on a...   Apr 6 2009, 12:54 PM
critto   Unintentionally, indeed. Haven't thought at t...   Apr 6 2009, 02:00 PM
Raven   Unintentionally, indeed. Haven't thought at t...   Apr 14 2009, 09:44 AM
critto   Well, I think this little experiment is over. I...   Apr 22 2009, 06:58 PM
Raven   To summarize, this party is not as effective as I ...   Apr 22 2009, 07:50 PM
matti   Good fighters. Two or three, imp. hasted and prote...   Apr 23 2009, 05:17 AM
critto   2 Raven, matti: Thanks for your input. I did try m...   Apr 23 2009, 07:54 AM
Raven   2 Raven, matti: Thanks for your input. I did try m...   Apr 23 2009, 04:51 PM
matti   Yeah, that's why fighters and mages (single-cl...   Apr 23 2009, 11:37 AM
critto   2 matti: Well, actually, my sorc has enough experi...   Apr 23 2009, 06:20 PM
Kerkes   A slight suggestion to your Noble Genie problem: ...   Apr 25 2009, 09:48 AM
Raven   A slight suggestion to your Noble Genie problem: ...   Apr 26 2009, 10:46 AM


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