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post Feb 11 2009, 07:06 PM
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Okay. Really, the mod is totally fun and pleasure, but in the name of all that sacred, next version should ease up on spiders a little bit.
I thought 2 drow ambushes were hard to beat with those annoying spiders being everywhere. Apparantly, I was mistaken.
Deeper underdark. Cave with an instant supply of whisper spiders (where they just keeping coming from nowhere). Really, how can I beat this thing? They dispel everything, they somehow draw characters from place to themselves, and sometimes they just kill chars instantly. Why is that? Why no info about the damage being done or save-throw being made (dwarf-kensai, instantly dead. huh?). And, finally, there are just TOO DAMN much of them, my characters can't handle them, even though I have a fighter-heavy party (vagrant, kensai, blade, berserker-cleric, sorc, thief/mage). I am doing buffs, of course, but they are being dispelled very soon and there is no point and time in refreshing them. Summons doesn't help much too (tried 5 hasted mordy swords). Tried magic (adwh, chain lightnings), but they are magic resistant, as it seems.
I am no great tactician, but how am I supposed to win that battle? :) Just keep reloading and hope for better save-throws and no instant-kills? I would be really glad to have some advices on that battle. This is the first one in the game which makes me feel annoyed, instead of being interested, having fun and searching for better tactics.
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post Feb 19 2009, 03:36 PM
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Heh. Finally finished off The Mighty One. Tried unsuccessfully several days earlier (mostly studying the beast's behaviour), and today I defeated him. The most annoying thing about him is his wail, which sometimes kills chars instantly unless they are protected with DW or succeed a saving throw. It was so fun, and I want to congratulate Sikret once again for creating such an interesting and challenging mod. I also enclose a little report of my victory, so maybe more experienced players could comment on that. Also, I've mentioned one nasty bug, nature of which is a mystery to me.
SPOILER!

My initial plan was the following: give draco somebody to kick around, in my case: blade with couple of different protections and potions, kensai and two swanmays. Meanwhile, mages and clerics make draco to waste his death fogs on summoned elementals and using Zone of SA to get rid of the nasty effects. Then I summon some skeleton warriors and mordy swords, 'haste' them and throw into the battle. It happens just about time when dracolich's out of stoneskins and PfMWs. The hardest thing is, as I mentioned earlier, to keep chars, especially mages, alive with DW.
I've made about 5-6 tries and succeed.
The first time around today I nearly managed to beat him, but he killed my prot when we were 2-3 rounds away from victory. It wasn't a good try anyway since dracolich also managed to kill my cleric, which means no resurrection until we go back to the surface. So even if it was a success I still might've reloaded.
Tries 2-4 were doomed from the beginning because dracolich managed to silence my cleric, thus taking her out of action for a long time and leaving us without ZoSA and DWs (vagrant have a couple of the first ones, but that's not enough).
In my fifth try I've experienced very funny problem: when the party was about to finish off dracolich (my plan was going quite smoothly, 4 characters and couple of summons were hitting him), very strange bug has happened. I suddenly lost control of my charaters, and the area switched! I couldn't see the dracolich area anymore, but I could observe the beholder's lair! And the battle seemed to be over, since no messages were being added into the log and I could save whenever I want. Very strange how it's just happened. I haven't used any console commands or keys, in fact, the debug mode was off. And, of course, I've had to load the game, which was the saddest thing of all.
And the six try was the successful one. All the characters held on for a long enough time, so I managed to execute my plan more or less smoothly. Sadly, about the time when the final phase should've begun (draco has no more protections, so we beat him hard), he wailed to death both my mages and the blade. Thankfully, cleric survived this hit (maybe it was due to the last DW I placed on him), summoned a couple of skellies and we finally killed the damned beast!

The good thing about this battle is that, due to the defensive nature, it teaches how to play in 'chess match' mode, making decisions every time the game pauses and not leaving any detail missed.

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critto   Critto's v5 journal   Feb 11 2009, 07:06 PM
Kerkes   Spider drain stats like Inteligence and Wisdom, mu...   Feb 11 2009, 07:41 PM
Raven   Try prot evil, def harmony, low AC is good here. A...   Feb 11 2009, 09:16 PM
Sikret   Whisper Spiders don't have the ability to inst...   Feb 11 2009, 07:49 PM
critto   Well, that certainly explains things. Even I don...   Feb 11 2009, 08:26 PM
Sikret   Well, that certainly explains things. Even I don...   Feb 11 2009, 09:02 PM
Kerkes   yes, emotion works on the other type of spiders, s...   Feb 11 2009, 09:53 PM
critto   Well, I finally managed to beat those things. Used...   Feb 12 2009, 07:04 AM
Sikret   I have one more question. As I remember, one of th...   Feb 14 2009, 09:59 AM
critto   2 Sikret: Well, what are you gonna do, huh? I...   Feb 15 2009, 07:46 AM
matti   He's really not that bad compared to Green Wyr...   Feb 16 2009, 08:03 AM
critto   Heh. Finally finished off The Mighty One. Tried un...   Feb 19 2009, 03:36 PM
Sikret   Congratulations, Critto! These are no longer ...   Feb 19 2009, 03:59 PM
critto   2 Sikret: Indeed, they are not. Thank you for cr...   Feb 19 2009, 04:59 PM
Sikret   By the way, have you read about the bug I've m...   Feb 19 2009, 05:09 PM
critto   I certainly never attacked him, of that I am sure...   Feb 19 2009, 05:39 PM
Sikret   As I said, even if you attacked the Cursed Ghost, ...   Feb 19 2009, 07:00 PM
critto   It seems like a logical explanation, but there wer...   Feb 20 2009, 05:42 AM
critto   I have two questions. 1. About the Shimmering Lig...   Feb 20 2009, 04:14 PM
Sikret   Yes, just play all other IA quests normally, you...   Feb 21 2009, 11:10 AM
critto   Sikret, thanks for the answers. I have also a prob...   Feb 22 2009, 01:08 PM
Sikret   You have most certainly killed the dominated rang...   Feb 22 2009, 01:39 PM
critto   Indeed. Why didn't I thought of that. By the w...   Feb 22 2009, 01:54 PM
Sikret   Indeed. Why didn't I thought of that. By the w...   Feb 22 2009, 02:09 PM
critto   2 Sikret. I finished the Shimmering Light quest....   Feb 22 2009, 05:19 PM
Sikret   Killed the Grandfather of Assassins, got the rewar...   Feb 22 2009, 05:39 PM
critto   2 Sikret: Well, that's a shame. Maybe I...   Feb 23 2009, 08:22 AM
Frazurblu   You can still find it.   Feb 24 2009, 12:51 AM
critto   Thanks for the hint, Frazurblu! I think I migh...   Feb 24 2009, 12:08 PM
critto   Sikret, sorry about the spoiler about 48-sided gem...   Feb 25 2009, 04:21 PM
Sikret   Sikret, sorry about the spoiler about 48-sided gem...   Feb 25 2009, 06:34 PM
matti   On the Githyanki Supreme Leader (cool name btw.) f...   Feb 25 2009, 06:11 PM
critto   matti, thanks for your input on the Supreme Leader...   Feb 26 2009, 08:58 AM
Sikret   I buffed him with Improved Haste, Offensive Spin a...   Feb 26 2009, 10:06 AM
critto   Oh, I didn't know that this was a bug. I thou...   Feb 26 2009, 11:24 AM
Sikret   By the way, Melodic Fury ring gives Blade permanen...   Feb 26 2009, 11:39 AM
critto   That's bad. Well, Blade still quite a winner u...   Feb 27 2009, 10:35 AM
critto   Okay, I finally managed to beat Yaga-Shura. In ord...   Mar 2 2009, 07:05 AM
critto   Haven't written for a while. Not that there is...   Mar 12 2009, 05:37 PM
Kerkes   For your questions: 1.Cernd is worth while and m...   Mar 13 2009, 01:43 PM
critto   Thanks for your comments, Kerkes! 1. I think ...   Mar 13 2009, 03:09 PM
Frazurblu   Cavalier is definetly the way to go as their immun...   Mar 13 2009, 09:58 PM
Kerkes   Clerics won't turn any paladin, for as long as...   Mar 17 2009, 09:45 AM
critto   So, I finally made a decision regarding the party ...   Apr 2 2009, 02:25 PM
Raven   r/c's Hold person seems to have taken effect o...   Apr 2 2009, 03:34 PM
critto   Agree. I also noticed that if character is held a...   Apr 2 2009, 04:15 PM
Sikret   [quote name='critto' post='39515' date='Apr 2 2009...   Apr 5 2009, 09:47 AM
Kerkes   Some toughts of mine just for you: Swash is very ...   Apr 4 2009, 01:02 PM
critto   Yeah, I know. Things could get tough for swashi in...   Apr 4 2009, 02:06 PM
critto   Updated journal post with some new adventures.   Apr 6 2009, 12:52 PM
Sikret   @Critto Casting Ruby Ray spell from a scroll on a...   Apr 6 2009, 12:54 PM
critto   Unintentionally, indeed. Haven't thought at t...   Apr 6 2009, 02:00 PM
Raven   Unintentionally, indeed. Haven't thought at t...   Apr 14 2009, 09:44 AM
critto   Well, I think this little experiment is over. I...   Apr 22 2009, 06:58 PM
Raven   To summarize, this party is not as effective as I ...   Apr 22 2009, 07:50 PM
matti   Good fighters. Two or three, imp. hasted and prote...   Apr 23 2009, 05:17 AM
critto   2 Raven, matti: Thanks for your input. I did try m...   Apr 23 2009, 07:54 AM
Raven   2 Raven, matti: Thanks for your input. I did try m...   Apr 23 2009, 04:51 PM
matti   Yeah, that's why fighters and mages (single-cl...   Apr 23 2009, 11:37 AM
critto   2 matti: Well, actually, my sorc has enough experi...   Apr 23 2009, 06:20 PM
Kerkes   A slight suggestion to your Noble Genie problem: ...   Apr 25 2009, 09:48 AM
Raven   A slight suggestion to your Noble Genie problem: ...   Apr 26 2009, 10:46 AM


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