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 Aug 11 2008, 08:33 PM
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  Premium Member Posts: 663 Joined: 9-June 08 From: Budapest, Hungary  |
I created this topic to discuss the "philosophical" aspect of the game. We can discuss here questions like:
- is a modification really needed or not? - is something cheesy or cheeting or just a clever trick? - game balance - is an actual gap a bug or a feature? - and so on ... This topic will be maybe a bit too theoretical but I do not think it is a problem. We need such a place - as the discussions from the last 2-3 weeks prove it. 
This post has been edited by Vuki: Aug 11 2008, 08:34 PM -------------------- History of my party in IA can be seen here!
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Aug 11 2008, 10:19 PM
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Premium Member Posts: 663 Joined: 9-June 08 From: Budapest, Hungary |
No problem. I thought I would be faster.
-------------------- History of my party in IA can be seen here!
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Vuki "Philosophical" questions Aug 11 2008, 08:33 PM
Baronius Let's stir the pot then... (just kidding :D )... Aug 11 2008, 09:25 PM
Vuki Baronius, I have read your post and it was really ... Aug 11 2008, 11:07 PM Vuki Baronius, please wait to my real first post! I... Aug 11 2008, 09:49 PM Baronius Oh, forgive me! It seems I was too quick, I ha... Aug 11 2008, 09:55 PM Vuki First of all I would like to point out that I like... Aug 11 2008, 10:31 PM Kerkes Very nice topic! Bravo!
IMO =not the aps... Aug 12 2008, 08:51 AM Sikret casting spells from off-screen - pure cheese. I wr... Aug 12 2008, 09:19 AM Vuki Very true. This answer is valid for the case of ab... Aug 12 2008, 11:10 AM Vuki Very nice topic! Bravo!
Thanks. :)
No, I ... Aug 12 2008, 11:04 AM Sikret For example enemies can reduce your fire resistanc... Aug 12 2008, 11:17 AM Vuki No humanoid enemy has such an ability. Actually, o... Aug 12 2008, 11:41 AM Sikret No humanoid enemy has such an ability. Actually, o... Aug 12 2008, 12:03 PM Vuki They don't do any such thing. It's an invi... Aug 12 2008, 12:14 PM Sikret They don't do any such thing. It's an invi... Aug 12 2008, 12:45 PM Vuki This is not true (except for vert particular monst... Aug 12 2008, 11:49 AM DavidW Why the hell would it be not fair? This is a fair ... Aug 12 2008, 11:41 AM Vuki It's basically a game-engine issue. The script... Aug 12 2008, 11:53 AM lroumen I'll join in for some musing.
I've read ... Aug 12 2008, 09:26 AM Vuki Pt 2. Don't use game editors
I use it sometime... Aug 12 2008, 11:25 AM Kerkes
A dwarven sorc has +5 to saves unlike human, elf ... Aug 12 2008, 10:45 PM Sikret Don't you consider Time trap to be an "am... Aug 13 2008, 09:14 AM lroumen Can this be added to the debate?
Cheesy foes... Aug 12 2008, 09:59 AM Raven Prebuffing foes (Forcespell)
I don't fully fav... Aug 12 2008, 10:27 AM Sikret Prebuffing foes (Forcespell)
I don't fully fav... Aug 12 2008, 10:59 AM Vuki Cheesy foes!
Prebuffing foes (Forcespell)
I d... Aug 12 2008, 11:29 AM Giden Hi guys, I'm quite new to the boards but not n... Aug 12 2008, 11:24 AM Vuki It is the previously promised post. I wanted to wr... Aug 12 2008, 01:25 PM Kerkes @Vuki
I REALLY am looking forward to your post on... Aug 12 2008, 05:26 PM Vuki @Vuki
I REALLY am looking forward to your post on... Aug 12 2008, 07:36 PM Kerkes one other thing.. It is stated in IA readme that ... Aug 12 2008, 06:02 PM Raven one other thing.. It is stated in IA readme that ... Aug 12 2008, 07:38 PM Sikret [quote name='Kerkes' post='34482' date='Aug 12 200... Aug 22 2008, 01:39 PM Vuki one other thing.. It is stated in IA readme that ... Aug 12 2008, 07:43 PM Raven I do not know what you are talking about here. Can... Aug 12 2008, 07:51 PM Vuki Small spoilers for this battle...
Ok, I noticed it... Aug 12 2008, 08:10 PM Sikret The thief "detect illusion" ability is a... Aug 12 2008, 08:01 PM Vuki If the ability was a plain divination spell, we wo... Aug 12 2008, 08:19 PM Kerkes @ Vuki
well, I suppose Raven knows what I was aim... Aug 12 2008, 08:42 PM Kerkes @Vuki
just read your reply on ambushes and such
H... Aug 12 2008, 08:51 PM Sikret Enemies can set an ambush, because the arena is th... Aug 12 2008, 09:11 PM lroumen lroumen, how much of the mod have you actually pla... Aug 13 2008, 09:23 AM Sikret 2. Stealing from shops (though of course selling i... Aug 13 2008, 09:41 AM Vuki You cannot implement this because each character h... Aug 13 2008, 10:51 AM LZJ Hi Iroumen!
For your point on stealing quest ... Aug 13 2008, 09:37 AM lroumen That's true. You have to put in a lot of effor... Aug 13 2008, 09:50 AM lroumen Concerning area abuse.
I'd like to hear more... Aug 13 2008, 10:03 AM Sikret IA will never be "perfect" in the strict... Aug 13 2008, 11:50 AM Vuki IA is progressing and becoming better and better w... Aug 13 2008, 04:54 PM Kerkes @ Sikret
I was referring to the fact that you... Aug 13 2008, 11:59 AM coaster On the discussion re: time traps.
Perhaps time tr... Aug 14 2008, 10:07 AM Kerkes IMO, mages should be more powerful than any other ... Aug 14 2008, 10:28 AM SpellStorm I've played this mod for some time now, and I ... Aug 14 2008, 01:40 PM Kerkes I agree with that "wasted time on cheating... Aug 22 2008, 02:53 PM Kerkes On the discussion about abusing area structure:
I ... Aug 26 2008, 07:59 PM Vuki As far as I know liches are immune to 1-5 level sp... Sep 4 2008, 08:06 AM LZJ Hmmm... I don't know if it's the same as i... Sep 6 2008, 10:23 AM Sikret Item no.10 in the "cheat and cheap" docu... Jan 23 2009, 07:43 PM matti It's not a cheat at all. But giving creature r... Jan 23 2009, 07:50 PM Raven It's not a cheat at all. But giving creature r... Jan 26 2009, 10:34 AM nataben1314 This is distressing indeed... I think that by the ... Jan 23 2009, 10:42 PM Sikret Let me quote from my own post again:
I think th... Jan 23 2009, 11:11 PM Baronius This is distressing indeed... I think that by the ... Jan 24 2009, 12:23 AM Sikret Their reasoning is usually the following:
(1) ... Jan 24 2009, 12:58 AM nataben1314 nataben1314, thanks for keeping your criticism wit... Jan 24 2009, 06:30 AM Sikret the idea that any ability that can even in princip... Jan 24 2009, 02:02 PM Baronius It is interesting that when you justify your decis... Jan 24 2009, 01:10 AM Hoppy Improved Anvil requires a lot of patience and time... Jan 24 2009, 03:27 AM Baronius nataben1314: let's forget the past then, now y... Jan 24 2009, 05:09 PM lroumen My condolences to all cheaters and cheesy players... Jan 26 2009, 10:19 AM DavidW I've no idea whether the timestop trick counts... Jan 26 2009, 11:58 AM shadan I dont't think Time Stop+melee is a cheat, so ... Jan 26 2009, 01:28 PM Shaitan Yes I gotta agree with Sikret and others: TS reall... Jan 26 2009, 01:29 PM Sikret My reasons for calling timestop-melee "a chea... Jan 26 2009, 02:58 PM Ardanis Hi all.
I believe TS differs from one edition to ... Jan 26 2009, 07:39 PM Daulmakan BG2 spells are based on AD&D 2E...
I'd s... Jan 27 2009, 03:47 AM Baronius :) Considering the arguments against it, it is not... Jan 27 2009, 04:02 AM Sikret Yeah, I'd say that the "act freely" ... Jan 27 2009, 04:44 AM nataben1314 I talk to sikret in PM and he says I am OK to stil... Jan 27 2009, 03:36 PM Zarathustra IT just occurred to me that using missile weapons ... Jan 27 2009, 06:24 PM Sikret Yes, Zarathustra! Once the timestop's dura... Jan 27 2009, 07:05 PM nataben1314 As you know I am against this change but I am curi... Jan 28 2009, 12:05 AM Sikret As you know I am against this change but I am curi... Jan 28 2009, 12:40 AM nataben1314 The spell description says that you cannot even ta... Jan 28 2009, 12:50 AM Sikret As I said, I don't think that spellcasting dur... Jan 28 2009, 12:58 AM nataben1314 I have read your posts, but I don't think they... Jan 28 2009, 01:07 AM Sikret Yes, I haven't based my reasoning merely on th... Jan 28 2009, 01:21 AM nataben1314 So if your reasoning for this is conceptual, yet y... Jan 28 2009, 03:15 PM LZJ Well, I think that Sikret's concept of Timesto... Jan 28 2009, 03:31 PM Sikret Thanks, LZJ!
@nataben1314
It seems that you ... Jan 28 2009, 05:28 PM Mohina I think this is becoming a bit of a play on words,... Jan 28 2009, 05:30 PM Gorwath I don't know if this could be implemented in t... Jan 28 2009, 10:41 PM Sikret I don't know if this could be implemented in t... Jan 28 2009, 10:58 PM crunk There's one thing that I do a lot, and I was w... Feb 8 2009, 06:10 AM Sikret Yes, I'm afraid, "hit&run" (or r... Feb 8 2009, 06:37 AM crunk Ok I'll stop running around just to waste mele... Feb 11 2009, 09:36 PM Sikret Also, is it cheesy to cast SI:abj just to waste an... Feb 11 2009, 10:13 PM Kerkes @ Crunk
You're right about use of SI. From my... Feb 11 2009, 10:04 PM |
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