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Bereth Darkides
post Apr 11 2008, 03:36 AM
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I have rewrote this 5 times because I am non too happy with the extreme game balance problem.
Is there anyway to tone down the power and or numbers of the nuclear skeleton warriors I am facing (at 9th-10th lvl) that does not include playing outside of core rules!

HOLY FAK!

You see I really hate having to cheat.

(PS,,, Vlad what were you thinking)? ohmy.gif


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Bereth Darkides
post May 29 2008, 04:44 PM
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(Face in hands, shaking my head no)

It is very obvious a lot of you cannot think beyong the fact that this entire core game is based on the core rules of AD&D second edition rules. I'll say it again, Core Rules, and even the configuration options in both BG and SOA and ToB all have this setting.

Many of you wouldn't know what "Balance" meant if it walked up to you and kicked you in the nuts, because it takes YEARS (oh my I yelled, sorry), to learn through direct experience. It's not a matter of opinion as many of you think, it's a matter of fact. Think about it this way.

Balance itself insinuates a common groung, a system of regularity, based on an expected thing. There are stronger vs stronger and weaker vs weaker. This is the meaning of balance found within AD&D. The Guide books do not say "hey after reading this book thoroughly, just go ahead and do what you want anyway! It instead states that it STRONGLY recomends a good understanding of the system in order to make alterations that make sense for playability and enjoyment for all.

What you don't realize is that DM's like myself who have been doing this for 25 years long before Baldurs Gate ever came around, have created thousands upon thousands of creatures add-ons etc etc etc. all integrated within the entire scheme. This is how I got my material published back in the 80's at age 16, because of my understanding of this balance and my creations.

The creatures in "this" game are not balanced and are irratically altered but much stronger than your party, (if you do not cheat like me and try to play an honest game, because Balance goes Both Ways).

This is also why Bioware incorporated AD&D into the game. This why they had advisors guiding them. This is why Baldurs Gate was one of the most successful games in history.

Some of you are utterly ignoring these facts and have no idea of what I am talking about. Some of you have misread the points of DM discretion and there meaning. This is nothing new of course. A lot of first time players think they are experts after reading it once through, or even skiming through it.

Some of you may be wondering why I am being what seems like a stickler for the rules. I can simply ask you in reply, why are you so afraid of the rules? Do you think it will be predictable? Do you think it will be too easy ( I have already given you perfect examples of difficulty) and if you think being able to kill a Litch without any preparation at all is easy, then you go right ahead and try!

Point is, many of you don't care for balance, many gamers cheat anyway. Ironic how a game can be so horrible but keep you coming back for more year after year isn't it!

The Dragon hit by norm weapons BTW (noted above) was a glitch in the original game. I just looked up the old fix notes from the beta release. Vampires still have their +1 required to hit while Bhodi is higher! (No spell casting there).

This can be better! This is the Big point!


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Bereth Darkides   Regarding the game play (EDITED MAY 15, 2008)   Apr 11 2008, 03:36 AM
Hoppy   Don't cheat either, cause I think there is an ...   Apr 11 2008, 04:48 AM
Bereth Darkides   Don't cheat either, cause I think there is an ...   Apr 11 2008, 05:03 PM
Golden Thief   @Bereth Darkides When I first started playing NEJ ...   Apr 11 2008, 11:24 AM
Bereth Darkides   @Bereth Darkides When I first started playing NEJ ...   Apr 11 2008, 05:34 PM
Hoppy   Actually a good process that helps is clear one ca...   Apr 11 2008, 01:44 PM
Vlad   Well, it's challenging, for sure, unless you u...   Apr 11 2008, 02:02 PM
Bereth Darkides   Lol,,, Challenging...pretty funny there Vlad.. I a...   Apr 11 2008, 04:28 PM
Bereth Darkides   Since when does Protection from Undead scroll prot...   Apr 11 2008, 05:44 PM
Golden Thief   @Bereth Darkides Cheating????? Why would that be c...   Apr 11 2008, 05:50 PM
Bereth Darkides   Well with my strategy I was able to clear three c...   Apr 11 2008, 05:54 PM
Golden Thief   I hear ya. I tend to rest more. After awhile you j...   Apr 11 2008, 06:31 PM
Hoppy   when you get really good, let us know what it is l...   Apr 11 2008, 10:27 PM
Vlad   Since BIS decided it is so. Didn't you that?...   Apr 11 2008, 11:02 PM
Bereth Darkides   Since BIS decided it is so. Didn't you that?...   Apr 12 2008, 03:17 PM
Golden Thief   Yep, I had to laugh about that one at first. I kep...   Apr 12 2008, 12:15 AM
ClefairyTorii   I pretty much agree with everything said here. ...   Apr 13 2008, 08:00 AM
Bereth Darkides   My Idea of what cheating is: (Pretty self explanit...   Apr 14 2008, 11:36 PM
Bereth Darkides   OK,, I'm at Dragons Eye; Well..man oh man. H...   Apr 16 2008, 07:07 AM
Sikret   Lastly and my most important point, consider the o...   Apr 16 2008, 08:46 AM
Bereth Darkides   [quote name='Bereth Darkides' post='30630' date='A...   Apr 17 2008, 01:50 PM
Bereth Darkides   PS,, I'll continue reports on bugs (no not bee...   Apr 16 2008, 07:21 AM
DavidW   The bottom line is that computer-game opponents ...   Apr 16 2008, 08:56 AM
Chev   I found these guys easy, just use Web and Entangle...   Apr 16 2008, 01:05 PM
Baronius   It wouldn't be needed to simulate human intel...   Apr 16 2008, 04:49 PM
DavidW   It wouldn't be needed to simulate human intel...   Apr 16 2008, 11:00 PM
Bereth Darkides   I'll reply tonight.. :P   Apr 16 2008, 09:00 PM
Baronius   Absolutely. On the other hand, many AI experts b...   Apr 16 2008, 11:50 PM
Vlad   Bereth, you won't believe but Imoen is capable...   Apr 17 2008, 09:01 AM
Bereth Darkides   Bereth, you won't believe but Imoen is capable...   Apr 17 2008, 02:20 PM
Hoppy   Therein lies one of my problems..... I ran out of ...   Apr 17 2008, 09:41 PM
Vlad   Well, well... The mighty Bereth Darkides forgot to...   Apr 17 2008, 06:18 PM
Vlad   :lol:   Apr 18 2008, 06:34 PM
Bereth Darkides   :lol: Ya OK.. OK... lets all have a BIG lau...   Apr 21 2008, 08:37 PM
Ymarsakar   I played the older version of Nej with IA 4.2 inst...   Apr 18 2008, 10:25 PM
Hoppy   Using additional scripts for individuals and parti...   Apr 19 2008, 07:50 PM
Ymarsakar   Having stacks of 200 arrows instead of 20 would al...   Apr 22 2008, 01:52 AM
Ymarsakar   Regular uScript and eSeries does a couple of thing...   Apr 24 2008, 09:12 PM
Hoppy   Yeah, the uscripts were a bit tedious. I give a l...   Apr 25 2008, 02:34 AM
Ymarsakar   When I was deciding which script I was going to re...   Apr 28 2008, 06:22 PM
Bereth Darkides   :ph34r: Mind You VLAD[/i][b]; You guys say tacti...   Apr 30 2008, 04:53 PM
Hoppy   :ph34r: Mind You VLAD; You guys say tactics,,,, ...   Apr 30 2008, 09:50 PM
Bereth Darkides   :ph34r: Mind You [u]VLAD; You guys say tactics,,...   May 1 2008, 09:14 PM
Hoppy   Even if the games are very close, I am sure there ...   May 2 2008, 01:43 AM
Bereth Darkides   Oh Absolutely Hoppy, I couldn't agree more in ...   May 3 2008, 06:16 PM
Bereth Darkides   OK.. sisnce nobody could guess the answer above I...   May 7 2008, 08:53 PM
wellunhappy   The lizard men suck yeh and they are real tough bu...   May 8 2008, 02:09 AM
Hoppy   Just hope that the BP lot don’t manage to make i...   May 8 2008, 04:47 AM
DavidW   However, you may try NeJ691 with SCSII and see ho...   May 8 2008, 07:56 PM
Hoppy   Not that I know of. If you try it, let me know. D...   May 9 2008, 12:42 AM
DavidW   [quote name='DavidW' post='31268' date='May 8 2008...   May 9 2008, 06:46 PM
Hoppy   [quote name='DavidW' post='31268' date='May 8 2008...   May 9 2008, 06:51 PM
Bereth Darkides   [quote name='DavidW' post='31268' date='May 8 2008...   May 15 2008, 07:28 PM
ClefairyTorii   Maybe I just love pain, but I actually enjoyed the...   May 8 2008, 05:56 AM
Bereth Darkides   Maybe I just love pain, but I actually enjoyed the...   May 8 2008, 06:34 PM
Chev   A mage would be nice, but for NeJ part 2 the PC ne...   May 8 2008, 04:03 PM
Hoppy   A mage would be nice, but for NeJ part 2 the PC ne...   May 8 2008, 04:59 PM
Bereth Darkides   OK took a break but came back and played last nigh...   May 15 2008, 08:04 PM
Bereth Darkides   BTW, I take no joy in responding in the way noted ...   May 15 2008, 09:03 PM
Ymarsakar   You'll get a kick out of playing, trying to pl...   May 15 2008, 09:52 PM
Hoppy   Bereth, Why don't you create a tactics mod for...   May 15 2008, 10:46 PM
Bereth Darkides   Bereth, Why don't you create a tactics mod for...   May 21 2008, 01:40 PM
Senka   And I have to add, if you don't like this mod ...   May 16 2008, 08:38 AM
Baronius   I think Bereth is big D&D fan, who would like ...   May 16 2008, 12:28 PM
Sir-Kill   Heh yeah I am not a big D&D rules guy either b...   May 16 2008, 01:14 PM
Hoppy   I will say it again that BG1 and BG2 were based on...   May 16 2008, 05:11 PM
Bereth Darkides   Guys,,, understand something. A Baetazu losing to ...   May 16 2008, 05:58 PM
Bereth Darkides   Please don't take it personaly, I still love a...   May 16 2008, 06:15 PM
Sir-Kill   I did not take any offense. you probably have a go...   May 16 2008, 08:46 PM
Bereth Darkides   I did not take any offense. you probably have a go...   May 20 2008, 01:52 PM
Baronius   No problem Bereth :lol: Perhaps because many o...   May 16 2008, 09:03 PM
ClefairyTorii   I personally played AD&D 2nd edition for many ...   May 17 2008, 12:23 AM
Bereth Darkides   I personally played AD&D 2nd edition for many ...   May 21 2008, 01:27 PM
DavidW   You wouldn't let a +1 sword strike the dragons...   May 22 2008, 08:02 AM
Bereth Darkides   +1 swords work just fine against every dragon in t...   May 23 2008, 06:36 PM
DavidW   Dragons immunties are based on there age. Great wy...   May 23 2008, 11:09 PM
Chev   Dragons immunties are based on there age. Great wy...   May 24 2008, 02:56 AM
Hoppy   [quote name='DavidW' post='31643' date='May 23 200...   May 24 2008, 05:02 AM
Valiant   Anytime you want me to quote the books in question...   May 25 2008, 07:09 AM
Sir-Kill   cool. Do you have any web publishing experience (i...   May 20 2008, 02:19 PM
Bereth Darkides   Sounds like a good Idea. I'll tell you what, I...   May 21 2008, 12:07 PM
Sir-Kill   I would tend to disagree about the web page, I per...   May 21 2008, 01:07 PM
Hoppy   I like Sir-Kill's request about the balances v...   May 22 2008, 01:54 AM
Ymarsakar   Because there is no Dungeon Master to continually ...   May 22 2008, 03:27 PM
Bereth Darkides   You must then now remove all summon fiend or demon...   May 23 2008, 06:19 PM
The Bigg   He's vulnerable to +1 and even normal weapons....   May 23 2008, 07:00 PM
Hoppy   He's vulnerable to +1 and even normal weapons....   May 23 2008, 07:42 PM
Hoppy   Bereth, I still don't understand how the scena...   May 23 2008, 07:34 PM
The Bigg   Your point about Liches and their phylacteries or ...   May 23 2008, 08:30 PM
ClefairyTorii   1) I see no reason why a Troll couldn't have...   May 26 2008, 12:49 AM
Bereth Darkides   1) I see no reason why a Troll couldn't have...   May 26 2008, 09:08 PM
DavidW   Do not try to tell me there is no + required to hi...   May 26 2008, 11:39 PM
Bereth Darkides   Your right though, the DM "can" do whate...   May 26 2008, 09:27 PM
Sir-Kill   using 'CAPPS' and '!!!...   May 26 2008, 09:47 PM
ClefairyTorii   As explained earlier, the system is in place as ...   May 27 2008, 12:36 AM
Bereth Darkides   (Face in hands, shaking my head no) It is very o...   May 29 2008, 04:44 PM
Clown   I have been reading this thread since you first ma...   May 29 2008, 05:31 PM
Bereth Darkides   simply because it does not directly correlate with...   May 29 2008, 08:40 PM
Valiant   Well, guys, I think this debate is slowly taking t...   May 29 2008, 07:37 PM
Bereth Darkides   Well, guys, I think this debate is slowly taking t...   May 29 2008, 08:02 PM
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