Realy need help Vlad, Too many vesions Options

[Bereth Darkides]

Hi Vlad been a while. I gave up on BP due to so many bugs and problems that have never been fixed.

Of all the mods though, TS has been the best IMHO, so what I am looking for is decent sized mod TS with a few SOLID mini mods to install. Nothing crazy of course, but something that has been proven to work without destroying any of the core BG quests.

After looking up a lot of posts everywhere, it has been suggested that this install might work best. Please let me know if I am correct and if not please help me out.

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Baldurdash-WeiDU v1.6.5 then install TS v7.01
or
G3 BG2 Fixpack then install TS-BP v6.10. (though I realize this is King Diamonds)


Tower of Deception

Freedoms Reign/Reign of Virtue

Solaufein : v103

Weimer's item upgrade

Assension v 111/Redemption

Unfinished Business

NPC Flirt Packs or Romantic Encounters

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If you have any suggestions, please help, also mod install order would also be helpfull!
Thanks Vlad

The issue is, so many opinions vs unclarity as to which mod works with which mod.

[Bereth Darkides]

I here that. The strange thing is, it started out so well years back at teambg with Dark Side!
Everyone was working to build on that, and it's compatability. The IE changed with he release of SoA this is true, but instead of intitial colaboration, a lot of off shoots started with the loss of a centrallized community.

In short, letting Black Wyrm grow is a great aim, and in the end you may be the last ones standing at this rate.
I am not much of a programer but instead my forte is with sound and art. I could always learn the graphics engine with and master it like I have with any graphics engine I have ever tried. This is the least I could do to help things along.

[Moongaze]

In short, letting Black Wyrm grow is a great aim, and in the end you may be the last ones standing at this rate.

Good. Except for all the other sites' traffic coming this way, of course. Imagine all of it going through one website/forum. x.x

I am not much of a programer but instead my forte is with sound and art. I could always learn the graphics engine with and master it like I have with any graphics engine I have ever tried. This is the least I could do to help things along.

Sound and graphics art is always welcome. =3

The IE changed with he release of SoA this is true, but instead of intitial colaboration, a lot of off shoots started with the loss of a centrallized community.

I agree the community's been quite "every man for himself" for a while now, with a lot of (unnecessary) rivalry. Of course, there will always be a few individuals you don't like and don't want to be in touch with, let alone work with, but it could be far more like a unity. Even most collaboration-oriented/general community mods (e.g. fixpacks, Crossmod) are selective in who the authors/moderators allow to join in.

It's a pity people hardly work together anymore (with the exception of certain groups of "friends"), but things will always be that way, I suppose... There will always be something someone wants to do differently. That's why there are at least 3 fixpacks out there, as well as 3 Kivan mods at some point (Domi's Kivan of Shilmista, Nightmare's Kivan and StarDragonMaiden's Kivan), and various additional content for existing NPC's (two BG1 Branwen Romances, NPC IEP adding Aerie content, as does my Aerie Relationship mod).

Alas, far from perfect, but that's the way things will be.
Of course, there's little problem in the case of multiple versions of the same NPC (new or addition to existing). No one's can claim them as "their" character, so the player can install which version they prefer (if there was a different version of the Alora NPC mod where there's at least better grammar/spelling, I'd prefer that one. The author could probably drink my blood for saying that, given she's already banned me once for making my own improvement of the dialogues and others were interested in it, but 'tis the truth.).

But in the case of fixpacks, for example, it causes a lot of confusion, especially for new players. I don't blame the creators of the different fixpacks for wanting it their way, for developing the thing -they- feel comfortable with. However, it will make certain mods incompatible because they're built on a different "platform". Growth of a community is good, I suppose, but during my absence in 2006-2007, things have gotten a lot more complicated.

The complexity of building certain mod types as well as managing big mod installations has grown to such a size that causes difficulties in its control.

Hence why I never use megamod-installs!
I've only touched TS and NeJ, in a seperate install. It's far too much trouble to install everything together. Even BG1Tutu doesn't work as well as it's intended, back when I tried it (it's still the same version to this day).

My whole problem has been with not neccesarily with the modders but rather the loose aproaches many of them have with the differences of break it first fix it later, which is ok, but then continue to add way too much to fast creating even more problems. Forcing us to wait even longer to play.

Create, thorough test, then release...and fix a.s.a.p. ...don't ignore bug reports. Some authors seriously have little time (sadly), yet others seem to prefer joking/insulting around on various forums, rather than fixing their own mod's issues.

If I remember, the best versions with the least bugs were made about 4 years ago.

That's...bad.

Ah well, I ramble... No need to reply, 'tis not important...and we're going rather off-topic as well.