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Shadan
post Jan 14 2008, 05:47 PM
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As Ryel asked, I will write about my party and my game also here. I was not able to resist to start the game, despite of I wanted to start only in some weeks, when I will have more time. smile.gif
I hesitated alot with my party selection. I wanted 5 man party earlier, but after reading Sikret's progression, I changed my mind to 6 man party. I wanted to use at least 3-4 custom NPC, but hesitated abit on 1-2 bioware NPC also. Since I am an attribute fun, at end I started with 6 custom made chars. Maybe in v6, I will do with Bioware NPCs again, and it seems druid protagonist. smile.gif

So my party:
Human vagrant (as usual:)):
I gave long sword **, axe, club, flail * and 2weapons *** to him. Luckily I pickpocketed an Enchanted Weapon scroll for my mage, so in dire situations I am able to give him +3 long swords and +3 maces to my cleric. I have The Root of the Problem and Flametongue now, so at lvl 9 I put 2nd * in the club. And I think I will increase his flail skill at lvl 12.

Human swashbuckler lvl 10 - fighter:
This character gave the most thinking to me. Finally I chosed staff** and 2handed weapons ** for him. At lvl 10 I changed him to fighter. Now he is lvl 8 and has halberd **** and 2handed sword **. He will be very versatile character in damage type (halberd - piercing, staff -crushing, 2handed swords - slashing). I chose him to handle locks, traps and illusions, so he has 100 % pick lock, find trap and detect illusion. I want to buy Harmonium halberd for him, if I will have money for this, since 19 Str is huge upgrade considered to pure 18.

And the four sisters:
Half-elf blade
I liked Haer'Dalis in my 4.2 run, so I chose blade again. Reasons are in this topic in my former post. I hesitated alot between Haer and custom NPC, I chose custom cause of better attribute distribution and earlier join, but I lost easy upgradable Chaos Blade and ** in short sword. I started her with scimitar, katana *, 2weapons: **, but since I haven't found any magic weapon for her, she used Melf's Minute Meteor in fights. Sadly it is bugged with offensive spin as I wrote in bug report topic, but she was very good with MMM anyway. Now I have got Rashad's Talon which is a great weapon for her. She has 18 charisma and with a Friends she has 24, which means almost best buying price.
There were no need in good tanks so early in the game as I am now, but later she will be the best tank ever. smile.gif And she did a wonderful pickpocket tour at start, and I am planning to do it again after I get back to the city.

Human ranger 7 - cleric:
I dualled her immidiately after start. She started with 2weapons ***, warhammer**, shield and sword **, flail *. As cleric, I chose mace *, sling *, club * and put 2nd point into mace at lvl 8. The main reason to chose her above Anomen (who was great in my 4.2run) is Ironskin, better attributes, and some druidic summon at start. Price was loosing the option of 5* proficiencies, Anomen’s doesn’t have any good improveable item. She will use the usual maces, hammers mostly.

Elf sorcerer:
She is the 6th member who was not in my original party conception. She has the following spells (* means she had that spell at start):
lvl 1: Armor*, Shield*, Spook*, Magic M.*, Larloch’s M. Dr.*
lvl 2: Melf’s AA*, Horror*, Mirror Image*, Vocalize
lvl 3: Flame Arrow*, Skull Trap*, Vampiric Touch, Slow (Remove Magic planned)
lvl 4: Emotion, Spider Spawn (Ray of Fragmentation and Stoneskin planned)
lvl 5: Breach (Lower Resistance, Sunfire planned)

Half-elf summoner:
I hesitated alot between Nalia and custom NPC. Nalia has a nice upgradeable ring, but a specialist mage is better at start. Decision was made since I WANT to cast that damned Wish with her. smile.gif

I am basically following Sikret’s quest order. Well, more or less and mostly only at start. I did some pick pocket tour after circus (I was lucky to get a Spell Trap Scroll, 2 Mord. Sword scroll and some others, but no manual or Perm. Scroll), then I went out to Umar and Trademeet. I encountered with Suna earlier, and she suprised me, but after reload and some spell casted before map change, I easy managed them. Fladorn was a bit hard, but when I killed her, I made 1st challenge immidiately after rest. It was funny, since I thought I am itemless again, and started my usual Faldorn tactic, after 2 rounds I realized I have weapons, so beat that druid very fast. smile.gif Rakshasa in the tower were not too big challenge. I went back to Trademeet for rewards. Now I will go back to the city, and will do some minor quests when I have time to play again. At this time I won’t follow Sikret’s order, but mostly I will do those quests what he did, just not in that order.
My only big concern are Crowled Wizards. In my 4.2 run I didn’t pay to them. I killed their members easily, but the last fight was very very hard. I was able to kill them only just before I went to Spellhold (I did all available quests in chapter 3 in that game as well as WK 1st and 2nd lvl). I was not allowed to cast arcane spells on the streets, but as far as I remember this was not so big problem in that game, not too many fights are on the street. Now maybe Anarg and his followers could cause problem. My only headache was Borinal, since it was a very hard fight with new enemies in my 4.2 run, and I was not able to cast defensive spells before his door, so I had to go to Oghma temple for casting. Now I don’t know if I should pay, or suffer a bit hindrace sometimes while I am not able to kill their lasts members.
End of my report now. smile.gif

New part
I was not able to resist playing a while yesterday. I pickpocketed a large part of the city and I've got a Helm of Glory. (If it is a cheesy, I can tell the location, Sikret.) Well I can do a paper armor from Identify and Shocking Grasp scrolls what I pickpocketed. smile. smile.gif
I also killed Valeria and her goons. They surprised me, when I went in with badly injured chars while Iexplored the city and did the pikcpocket tour, so I had to reload. smile.gif) And did the tanner quest.
End of my report now. smile.gif

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Shadan
post Feb 12 2008, 03:09 PM
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I finished the Underdark. The 2 drow ambush were the hardest battles for me. I wrote about 1st one earlier, 2nd one is hard cause of
SPOILER!
all buffs are dispelled at start.


Master Brain was not too dificult, but I encountered with a strange thing:

SPOILER!
My goal was to kill as many golems as I can. So I waited all summons from elemental golem, then I wanted to kill him. I refreshed haste after every dispel from master brain. I thought when haste is dispelled, it doesn't cause fatigued statement. Well this was not true, my chars became fatigued after a while. What else I was not able to kill elemental golems because my fighters were not able to hit them. When I checked combat text why, I found roll-(5-10) instead of the usual roll+(6-12) numbers. So it seems fatigued penalties from different hastes are cumulative. Does anyone know what is the exact penalty from fatigued condition?
I reloaded, did the fight without haste at all. I killed elemental golem, and I realized brain golems spawn endlessly if I don't kill the Master Brain. Sadly my game was slowed down very much cause of corpses, and it was so slow to wait for next brain golems so I lost my patience, and killed the Master Brain after appr. 6-8 brain golems.


Dracolich was not too hard, imho was very good fight. Took 3 reload to understand fully all details of this fight, then I killed him. Happily my sorcerer and conjurer have got their 1st HLAs just before the dracolich, so I started Improved Alacrity with them. Summons were very handy in this fight.

Demonknights were not easy, but I used the brave method: charge and kill as many as you can with your fighters. smile.gif
SPOILER!
I was not really able to spot which one has hardiness and which one hasn't, since their other buffs caused many graphic animation. So I killed the nearest 1st. There was 2-3 tries, when my buffs was dispelled, and they killed 1-2 of my chars with a single trigger. If any character dies, game over for me, I don't use Raise Dead. I use it only if I had 20+ reloads in that fight and for example one chars died at 21st attempt. It was only 1 fight of this type in 4.2 run, and none in v5 run. smile.gif
So I killed them apprt. at 4th try. The end was very annoying, since last one feared my vagrant with a symbol just before he died. My Vagrant had appr. 20 HP, there were 2 Inc. Cloud on the field, and my only character (the conjurer) who still had a Remove/Resist Fear was behind Inc. Clouds with less than 10 HP. smile.gif My vagrant started to run in the room like a crazy, and I just was able to watch when he kills himself. Happily fear and Inc. Clouds faded soon and the battle was victory.


So I left Underdark, talked with elves, and oh well 3 messangers waited for me from my keeps (mage, warrior, bard). When I traveled to the city, gyths attacked my party. I was without spells, low HP etc. so end came very fast in this battle. smile.gif So I reloaded, rested, memorized and went to sleep, since there was midnight. smile.gif
I am eagerly waiting to kill those gyths and forging some new cool equipment. smile.gif

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shadan   IAv5 experiences   Jan 14 2008, 05:47 PM
shadan   I hope Sikret doesn't mind if I continue my re...   Jan 14 2008, 06:00 PM
Daulmakan   The Genie's Flask - from named nymph at Windsp...   Jan 14 2008, 07:32 PM
Sikret   I hope Sikret doesn't mind if I continue my re...   Jan 15 2008, 09:46 AM
Ryel ril Ers   @Shadan Did you use Dongeon-be-Gone? I think that...   Jan 14 2008, 09:26 PM
shadan   Hmm, it seems I forgot to do that Genie quest in t...   Jan 15 2008, 08:11 AM
Shaitan   Darn huh? You just missed 19500 xp and a great two...   Jan 15 2008, 08:17 AM
lroumen   Doesn't it depend a little on how you're p...   Jan 15 2008, 10:57 AM
Ryel ril Ers   @Sikret 1) Can you share with us what is the diffe...   Jan 15 2008, 11:05 AM
Sikret   1) Can you share with us what is the difference be...   Jan 15 2008, 01:12 PM
shadan   OK, I did some quests now, so I would like to comm...   Jan 16 2008, 12:08 PM
Ryel ril Ers   Don't equip your swashbucker with chain! T...   Jan 16 2008, 12:59 PM
shadan   Ryel: I will use plate then with my swashi... he i...   Jan 16 2008, 01:24 PM
shadan   What about my question concerning wizard version o...   Jan 17 2008, 01:02 PM
Caedwyr   The game does not use the Magical Fire damage type...   Jan 17 2008, 07:07 PM
shadan   Well, I just realized I have played IAv5 at hard d...   Jan 18 2008, 05:13 PM
Raven   Well, I just realized I have played IAv5 at hard d...   Jan 18 2008, 05:23 PM
shadan   Does anyone know where can I buy or find Morningst...   Jan 26 2008, 04:57 PM
Vardaman   Does anyone know where can I buy or find Morningst...   Jan 27 2008, 08:32 PM
shadan   Thanks Vagramant, I have found them also. Since Pl...   Jan 28 2008, 11:41 AM
Mongerman   Shadan, could you share some experiences on how me...   Jan 28 2008, 03:41 PM
Sikret   Shadan, could you share some experiences on how me...   Jan 29 2008, 08:27 AM
shadan   Sorry, I really don't know. I just noticed som...   Jan 29 2008, 08:10 AM
Sikret   @shadan What makes the Ancient Tome challenging i...   Jan 30 2008, 08:37 AM
shadan   Time limit? Do you mean you cannot rest between fi...   Jan 30 2008, 10:40 AM
Sikret   Time limit? Do you mean you cannot rest between fi...   Jan 30 2008, 10:49 AM
shadan   Thanks Sikret! I did it in time then. But I am...   Jan 30 2008, 01:15 PM
shadan   Some new fights: I forgot to mention Irenicus fig...   Feb 1 2008, 06:17 PM
shadan   I finished the Underdark. The 2 drow ambush were t...   Feb 12 2008, 03:09 PM
shadan   I did almost all SoA, I am in elven city now. I di...   Feb 20 2008, 12:52 PM
Sikret   Sadlt Delon havent appeared yet despite some time ...   Feb 20 2008, 01:28 PM
Vardaman   All in all I think some prices should be a bit low...   Feb 20 2008, 01:53 PM
shadan   Agree with Vardaman... And Cloak of Res +3 should ...   Feb 20 2008, 02:23 PM
Sikret   There is a big number of possible item-upgrades in...   Feb 20 2008, 02:29 PM
Shaitan   I like the way Sikret handled the huge amount of G...   Feb 20 2008, 07:59 PM
lroumen   I've rarely had more than 100k at the end of t...   Feb 21 2008, 08:22 AM
shadan   Personally I think ppl like new improved items... ...   Feb 21 2008, 09:58 AM
Shaitan   Personally I think ppl like new improved items... ...   Feb 21 2008, 11:36 AM
shadan   I guess one of the main reasons Sikret did what he...   Feb 21 2008, 01:04 PM
Shaitan   Well actually I wouldn't know about that as I...   Feb 21 2008, 01:10 PM
lroumen   I would like to forge a majority of good items, bu...   Feb 21 2008, 04:39 PM
Sikret   As for the upgrade prices, I don't have anythi...   Feb 22 2008, 12:40 PM
Baronius   I can only second what Sikret has written. These ...   Feb 22 2008, 01:27 PM
shadan   Yes I know this. We call as "treasure" e...   Feb 22 2008, 01:49 PM
Vardaman   Yes I know this. We call as "treasure" e...   Feb 22 2008, 02:27 PM
rbeverjr   I am only ONE player, maybe others aren't diss...   Feb 22 2008, 05:00 PM
Sikret   And isn't it 200 lbs of Amber each drop? What...   Feb 22 2008, 03:07 PM
coaster   Don't you basically get infinite gold if you...   Feb 22 2008, 07:24 PM
shadan   Hmm, seems I am in big trouble. I cannot finish ba...   Feb 22 2008, 11:34 PM
Sikret   My cabin is not lost. Minister Lloyd is friendly, ...   Feb 23 2008, 12:06 PM
shadan   Thanks Sikret. It seems it was easier to start aga...   Feb 23 2008, 12:31 PM
Sikret   Ok, as for the money problem, I applied some chang...   Mar 25 2008, 01:06 AM
shadan   Good news, thanks Sikret. I especially greet the X...   Mar 26 2008, 09:22 AM
shadan   As I see not too many new posts on this forum nowa...   Mar 31 2008, 08:12 AM
Raven   As I see not too many new posts on this forum nowa...   Mar 31 2008, 09:46 AM
shadan   The berserek, 2 Greater Swanmays, Noble Spider and...   Mar 31 2008, 10:52 AM
shadan   I finished Twisted Rune. It was hardest fight for ...   May 1 2008, 05:15 PM
Vardaman   I finished Twisted Rune. It was hardest fight for ...   May 1 2008, 10:02 PM
shadan   I know there is a bug regarding Spell Shield and R...   May 6 2008, 05:19 PM
Raven   Pretty sure that's the usual (unfixable) Spell...   May 6 2008, 10:52 PM
Sikret   As Raven mentioned, It's related to the unfixa...   May 9 2008, 05:47 PM
Arkain   Isn't it possible to make Spellshield react to...   May 10 2008, 02:05 AM
Sikret   Isn't it possible to make Spellshield react to...   May 10 2008, 02:28 AM
shadan   I finished the game. Strongest killed enemies: Va...   May 24 2008, 07:10 AM
lroumen   Congrats Shadan. It's a mighty feat to beat IA...   May 24 2008, 09:00 AM
shadan   Thanks, Iroumen. Imho vagrant is the strongest cla...   May 24 2008, 09:45 AM
lroumen   Yes, that's what I don't really like about...   May 25 2008, 08:51 AM


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