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Dec 5 2007, 08:26 AM
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Forum Member Posts: 53 Joined: 25-July 07 |
A little question to Captain Haegan.
Cernd used the physical mirror spell and Haegan attacked him with the right group management. The throwing axes weren't reflected immediately, but after a short time Haegan received the cumulative damage for several axes and died instantly. I like it, but is it the intended behavior of the spell? By the way, i cant beat TorGal. Damn. I never get him below badly injured. It takes too long and my buffs fade away. Then the usually stuff happens. Storm of Vengeance, Hold Spell, Greater Commands and Strength Drain. Hmm, I need different tactics. This post has been edited by Spike: Dec 5 2007, 08:27 AM |
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Dec 7 2007, 03:52 PM
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The Tactician ![]() Distinguished Developer Posts: 7794 Joined: 1-December 05 |
What's the fun of playing with cheese even if it's sometimes possible? Every enemy in IA has precautionary anti-cheese blocks in his scripts, but if a player is a dedicated fan of playing cheesily, he may sometimes find a workaround against the less improved types of foes.
Once someone in SP forums asked me why I bother to block cheesy methods and exploits in IA. He believed that a player who looks for the ultimate challenge in BG2 and thus installs IA, won't naturally even think of playing cheesily. I replied that blocking the exploits are actually part of the mod's fixpack, not part of its tactical portion (Baldurdash fixpack also have some anti-exploit features thouhg in a much smaller scale compared to IA's fixpack). See below for the spoilerish part: SPOILER! Yuan-Tis are slightly improved by IA; yet, they have anti-cheese scripts against clouds and fogs and won't stand inside the cloud if you cast it from distance . As you mentioned, after casting cloud kill the Yuan-Tis didn't just stand there and tried to engage you; but since you also had your invisible protagonist *inside the cloud* they tried to fight with him. This kind of cheesy methods will not work against more seriously improved enemies of course. As for planar prison, how did you defeat the warden? I don't think that he will fall to similar cheesy tricks. If you managed to defeat the warden with no cheese, why didn't you use the same excellent skills you have to defeat the Elite Bounty Huntress (who is much weaker than warden) as well? When you can play without cheese why you even consider or think of cheesy solutions? -------------------- Improved Anvil
![]() Cheating is not confined to using external software or the console commands. Abusing the flaws and limitations of the game engine to do something that a human Dungeon Master would not accept or allow is cheating. |
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Dec 9 2007, 07:06 AM
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Forum Member Posts: 86 Joined: 31-October 06 |
What's the fun of playing with cheese even if it's sometimes possible? Every enemy in IA has precautionary anti-cheese blocks in his scripts, but if a player is a dedicated fan of playing cheesily, he may sometimes find a workaround against the less improved types of foes. Greetings, took some time out but have been playing version 5 for a couple of weeks. The answer to your question is simple Sikret, some people just want to play the game and are not as gifted as you and the other "super" BG2 players. I simply just want to play the game and play the story line. Its more important to me to experience the story line and all the creativity that went into it. These are my personal opinions and I in no way disrespect your work, it is awesome what you have done but unfortuneately this mod is geared (and you have stated it in the readme I admit) for the super players. I personally try the battles on core a couple of times then "come up" with other ways of getting through the part that I am stuck on. I hope that you can understand some of the different points of view that are out there. Romulas |
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Spike Spike's questions Dec 5 2007, 08:26 AM
Sikret All enemies who use ranged weapons in IA check to ... Dec 5 2007, 08:34 AM
Spike My party consists of:
Vagrant
Anomen
Jaheira
Cern... Dec 5 2007, 08:42 AM
Sikret My party consists of:
Vagrant
Anomen
Jaheira
Cern... Dec 5 2007, 08:57 AM
Spike Just another question.
I did the Merkath quest a ... Dec 5 2007, 08:47 AM
Spike You are right, but here are my thoughts:
Anomen -... Dec 5 2007, 09:12 AM
lroumen You cannot be very picky early game since not all ... Dec 5 2007, 09:52 AM
Sikret Anomen ... (low casting time to prevent interrupti... Dec 5 2007, 10:19 AM
lroumen Anomen ... (low casting time to prevent interrupti... Dec 5 2007, 03:13 PM
Spike Yeah, this is really a big difference to the vanil... Dec 5 2007, 10:08 AM
Stu @Spike - I'm not sure if the Torgal fight has ... Dec 6 2007, 11:12 AM
Sikret 1- try to separate the two trolls from the group a... Dec 6 2007, 12:38 PM
Spike @Stu
Thx for the detailed description, but i have ... Dec 6 2007, 11:51 AM
Spike Some cheesy methods:
Merkath's tower: -killed... Dec 7 2007, 03:12 PM
Spike I'm sorry. I didn't want to praise my chee... Dec 7 2007, 05:26 PM
Sikret I know, Spike! I will use your reports to impr... Dec 7 2007, 05:58 PM
Spike Need some advice to beat the warden <_< (don... Dec 8 2007, 04:03 PM
Sikret @Romulas
I understand. Play the mod and the game ... Dec 9 2007, 09:25 AM
LZJ To Sikret:
Hi, I've started on IA v5 not so l... Dec 9 2007, 10:47 AM
Spike @LZJ
A skeleton grandlord wasnt there in my game,... Dec 9 2007, 02:32 PM
Raven @Sikret
If i remember correctly the best moment to... Dec 9 2007, 02:56 PM
Spike Thx, are there any musthaves to survive the spellh... Dec 9 2007, 02:58 PM
Sikret @LZJ
The Skeleton Grandlord will be there only i... Dec 9 2007, 04:38 PM
lroumen If I may....
The ****** will be there only if yo... Dec 10 2007, 10:09 AM
LZJ To spike:
Thanks for telling me that. I encounter... Dec 9 2007, 04:41 PM
Spike Finally i've beaten the warden. This one was r... Dec 10 2007, 01:02 PM
Sikret @Spike
No problem. Perhaps, Planar Prison was a b... Dec 10 2007, 02:26 PM
Spike I'm really looking forward to seeing your repo... Dec 10 2007, 02:43 PM
Spike A question related to the fight with Conster.
Whe... Dec 11 2007, 12:34 PM
Sikret @Spike
Kill them. They are not infinite.
Dec 11 2007, 01:15 PM
Spike Thx, did it. Nice fight. I should be a bit more pa... Dec 11 2007, 10:56 PM
Sikret Great job, Spike!
Did you go for Mekrath with... Dec 11 2007, 11:04 PM
Spike Yes, the sewer party is still alive :blush:
and y... Dec 11 2007, 11:22 PM
Sikret While what you wrote in spoiler tags are indeed sp... Dec 12 2007, 12:13 AM
Spike Surprisingly, i could beat the Shadow Dragon at th... Dec 12 2007, 10:00 AM
LZJ To Spike
Some friendly advice about the Shadow Dr... Dec 12 2007, 11:39 AM
Spike @LZJ
He/it uses Spell Turning. Does Breach dispel... Dec 12 2007, 12:00 PM
Sikret
Casting Remove Magic earlier may sound a good tac... Dec 12 2007, 04:24 PM
Clown Just played this fight in V5 and it does seem stra... Dec 14 2007, 10:51 PM
Sikret Thanks, Clown!
Will test him in my own game t... Dec 15 2007, 12:26 PM
Spike Just a little note:
The Gauth after the bridge in... Dec 16 2007, 11:30 AM
Sikret Just a little note:
The Gauth after the bridge in ... Dec 16 2007, 11:37 AM
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Spike Thx for your answers.
I thought something similar... Dec 17 2007, 11:48 AM
Raven
Yeah, it's a mistake (it's my fault, not... Dec 17 2007, 12:24 PM
Sikret -The Sunfire scroll in Ribald's store says ... Dec 17 2007, 12:27 PM
Sikret @Spike and LZJ
I tested Warden in my own game and... Dec 19 2007, 06:14 AM
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Damn t... Jan 17 2008, 12:29 PM
Sikret @Spike:
If you have not asked her brother's ... Jan 17 2008, 01:22 PM
Sikret Spike,
I have two questions regarding Prince Vill... Jan 17 2008, 01:47 PM
Spike Dont have access to my gaming pc this weekend.
wil... Jan 19 2008, 10:25 AM![]() ![]() |
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