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Shaitan
post Sep 15 2007, 06:46 PM
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So I've made ready my line up for a game with ver. 4,3 installed. Rather I've two lineups:

The first will be with a party consisting of:
Me T->C dual hammer/maces or hammer or flail
Jaheira (romance) dual scimitar/club
Keldorn two handed
Valygar dual katanas?
Nalia->Immy Shortbow
Xan ?

The second will be:
me F/M dual long swords / flail or hammer?
Ariella (custommade T->C) Slings
Jaheira (romance - what a surprise) dual scimitar/club
Valygar dual katanas?
Kivan Longbow
Nalia->Immy Shortbow

Don't know yet wich to choose... thus I would like some opinions.

I'll have the following mods:
Kelsey SoA+ToB
Allison
Kivan
Xan
Auren
Enhanced BG2
Dungeon Crawl
Tower of Deception
BanterPacks
something from EoU
and ofcourse IA

What say you?


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lroumen
post Oct 8 2007, 10:16 AM
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I don't really see a problem for min/maxing a ranger/vagrant.

Ranger requirements are 13/13/14/3/14/3 (iesdp: abclasrq, 3 comes from race minimum). To have enough points to max the primary stats above 13 or 14 you need to get an 18 in intelligence for your roll (may take 30 seconds or something to roll that). The 18-3=15 points from intelligence can be distributed to str/dex/con for a final score of 18/18/19/3/14/3. Since you always have some extra points in the other stats if you roll 18 for intelligence (say you roll 14 dex and 7 cha as well = 5 points), you can probably have intelligence around 8-9 or even higher (18/18/19/9/14/3).

A vagrant would be 13/13/14/3/14/12 requirements and with a roll of 18 intelligence, the points can be distributed to 18/18/19/3/14/12. It looks much better than having 2 stats set to 3. The same thing applies as above, that if you have 14 dex and 7 cha with 18 int, then the vagrant can have 18/18/19/8/14/12, or distribute it to wisdom and end up with 18/18/19/4/18/12.

Not really that hard. I usually roll paladins (min is 12/3/9/3/13/17, so only look at dex>15 and int>15 during rolling) and rangers to 90+ points within a minute if I only look at the lowest minimum scores. Then you can use that to distribute all those points to other stats.


I think that if the minimum requirements for str/dex/con are lower than 13/13/14 for a vagrant (put the minimum for vagrants at 12/9/9/0/14/12 for instance), then the min/maxing is more difficult because you also need to get lucky rolls for these three stats to offset the low base stats because you cannot make that up with only a roll of 18 in charisma.



As you can see I know how to get my scores maxed easily in BG wink.gif. Generally though, I only max out dexterity and my primary casting requirement. The other stats are not that important since there are spells and enhancing gear you can pick up along the way. If I am to make a vagrant the scores will likely be 17/18/16/9/14/12 or something alike.

I will play IAv5 with a lot of enjoyment I'm sure. I don't really mind that I'm missing a few quests here or there, there is probably plenty of new content since I played v2, so I'm in for enough surprises along the way. I will hardly notice that I cannot forge Judgement Day on this first run through. I will just do so in the next one smile.gif.
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Shaitan   While we are waiting   Sep 15 2007, 06:46 PM
JohnGalt   I plan on changing the kits of some of the bioware...   Sep 15 2007, 09:24 PM
Sikret   If a player's priortiy is to see more new cont...   Sep 16 2007, 11:45 AM
Shaitan   Yes, perhaps your post alone would be good as a gu...   Sep 16 2007, 12:34 PM
Raven   Does this mean that to face the second battle of ...   Sep 16 2007, 01:48 PM
Sikret   Does this mean that to face the second battle of ...   Sep 16 2007, 02:16 PM
lroumen   I'm currently playing a solo game with an evil...   Sep 16 2007, 03:55 PM
lroumen   I finally made a decision (I've been thinking ...   Oct 4 2007, 03:02 PM
Sikret   I finally made a decision (I've been thinking ...   Oct 6 2007, 12:06 AM
shadan   I have 2 plans also. I want only 5 man party since...   Sep 17 2007, 07:53 AM
Shaitan   Due to Sikrets quest list I might just go with the...   Sep 17 2007, 08:14 AM
lroumen   The problem is that as it stands, there are seemin...   Sep 17 2007, 08:50 AM
Shaitan   I think when it comes down to the new XPlists, the...   Sep 17 2007, 09:03 AM
lroumen   I've thought it over and I think an Avenger wo...   Sep 17 2007, 09:40 AM
Raven   No, when it says 'Druids must be neutral',...   Sep 17 2007, 10:11 AM
Sikret   About evil characters: not only do you lose conten...   Sep 17 2007, 11:12 AM
lroumen   I can edit "alignmnt.2da" and place a ...   Sep 17 2007, 06:20 PM
Shaitan   I guess it's no secret anyway.   Sep 17 2007, 10:37 AM
Ryel ril Ers   Sikret, do you plan new content for evil character...   Sep 17 2007, 03:49 PM
Sikret   Make the donate more expensive This seems to be a...   Sep 17 2007, 04:02 PM
Sikret   Make the donate more expensive (dont kill it becau...   Sep 19 2007, 06:38 AM
Ryel ril Ers   Make the donate more expensive (dont kill it becau...   Sep 19 2007, 04:19 PM
Sikret   [quote name='Sikret' post='25694' date='Sep 19 200...   Sep 19 2007, 06:27 PM
Shaitan   It would like to propose a increased price for res...   Sep 17 2007, 04:28 PM
luan   I've never used the donate option, but yes, I ...   Sep 17 2007, 06:15 PM
Shaitan   After a good deal of consideration am I thinking o...   Sep 19 2007, 11:39 AM
Sikret   After a good deal of consideration am I thinking o...   Sep 19 2007, 12:11 PM
Shaitan   Yes a Necromancer has crossed my minds, but I tend...   Sep 19 2007, 12:44 PM
shadan   Haer'Dalis is an excellent choice as tank and ...   Sep 19 2007, 01:20 PM
trufa   If they are the only two choice, than Xan, becau...   Sep 19 2007, 02:42 PM
Shaitan   @Ryel ril Ers: Probably an good necromancer. @tru...   Sep 19 2007, 04:47 PM
trufa   Shaitan: You are misunderstanding me. I wrote my p...   Sep 20 2007, 01:09 PM
Shaitan   Overpowered items with design errors. I used to us...   Oct 4 2007, 04:56 PM
lroumen   well, since it's only a shop I can have a look...   Oct 4 2007, 07:22 PM
Shaitan   There's only six items AFAIR, better of with i...   Oct 4 2007, 08:04 PM
Vardaman   I like Under-represented Items (from IWDII). Some...   Oct 4 2007, 11:51 PM
lroumen   Oh my, it seems I made a mistake :blink: . I did m...   Oct 5 2007, 07:51 AM
Shaitan   :lol: Just remember to buy you license before thro...   Oct 5 2007, 09:19 AM
Sikret   BTW does anybody know if a sword ie +1/+3 against ...   Oct 5 2007, 09:59 AM
aVENGER   In IA it's the other way round. All such weapo...   Oct 5 2007, 03:31 PM
Shaitan   Ohh thanks! I had given it some thoughts. BTW...   Oct 5 2007, 10:21 AM
lroumen   there are some inconsistencies in vanilla though. ...   Oct 5 2007, 02:47 PM
Sikret   The +4 bonuses are written in Daystar's descri...   Oct 5 2007, 03:00 PM
lroumen   I agree. When I play IA v5 I intend to shop at t...   Oct 5 2007, 05:39 PM
lroumen   There are plenty of quests in the game. I think I ...   Oct 7 2007, 07:22 AM
Sikret   There are plenty of quests in the game. I think I ...   Oct 7 2007, 09:50 AM
lroumen   I like interjections ;), besides, I'm going to...   Oct 7 2007, 06:57 PM
Sikret   One custom NPC (the druid you want) occupies only ...   Oct 7 2007, 08:39 PM
DavidW   Actually it's a slightly bigger reduction than...   Oct 8 2007, 06:34 AM
lroumen   Well to be honest, I've played enough wizards ...   Oct 8 2007, 09:02 AM
Sikret   Ok, play the game the way you enjoy it most, Iroum...   Oct 8 2007, 09:14 AM
lroumen   I don't really see a problem for min/maxing a ...   Oct 8 2007, 10:16 AM
Sikret   A vagrant would be 13/13/14/3/14/12 requirements a...   Oct 8 2007, 11:17 AM
lroumen   Well, you only need some protection from normal we...   Oct 8 2007, 12:06 PM
Sikret   Well, you only need some protection from normal we...   Oct 8 2007, 12:13 PM
muddymissfit   Well after taking a gander at the new level progre...   Nov 13 2007, 09:32 AM
Sikret   Thanks for the kind words, muddymissfit! the ...   Nov 13 2007, 10:11 AM


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