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Shaitan
post Sep 15 2007, 06:46 PM
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So I've made ready my line up for a game with ver. 4,3 installed. Rather I've two lineups:

The first will be with a party consisting of:
Me T->C dual hammer/maces or hammer or flail
Jaheira (romance) dual scimitar/club
Keldorn two handed
Valygar dual katanas?
Nalia->Immy Shortbow
Xan ?

The second will be:
me F/M dual long swords / flail or hammer?
Ariella (custommade T->C) Slings
Jaheira (romance - what a surprise) dual scimitar/club
Valygar dual katanas?
Kivan Longbow
Nalia->Immy Shortbow

Don't know yet wich to choose... thus I would like some opinions.

I'll have the following mods:
Kelsey SoA+ToB
Allison
Kivan
Xan
Auren
Enhanced BG2
Dungeon Crawl
Tower of Deception
BanterPacks
something from EoU
and ofcourse IA

What say you?


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lroumen
post Oct 8 2007, 09:02 AM
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Well to be honest, I've played enough wizards in the game so I don't feel like replaying another one of them again anytime soon.

I have taken a look at the Vagrant kit and at first glance it looked quite good and I was thinking of replaying a ranger. On second glance I find it much too powerful for my first run through IA since v2. It has many more bonuses than any other class except the monk, but the monk has many cons which the vagrant doesn't really seem to have.
- melee capabilities of a warrior (2 stars or 5 stars is not a shocking difference in the game)
- elemental immunities of a druid (even better than a druid and much earlier than a druid too)
- some other immunities and save bonuses (that's quite okay, comes at the same time for monks for instance)
- very powerful summoning as innates rather than spells (i.e. no spellbook slots need to be sacrificed, this is really too good)

The cons are not really cons.
- charisma minimum is not a restriction (for instance, a roll of 5 is increased to 12, winning 7 points on the whole roll. It's for instance easy to roll a 90+ stats paladin due to his many minimum requirements and it's much harder to roll an 85+ fighter)
- no dualclassing... since clerics can only use blunt weapons this means you can only use hammers, maces, flails and the likes of it. The problem however, is that the main feature of Ia v4/5 is the forging of Judgement Day for good aligned single class protagonist warriors, so if you're ranger primary who is best built around melee.... there is not really a reason to dual-class and it's quite smart to keep it a normal ranger so you can use Judgement Day yourself. Of course you can give it to Mazzy or Keldorn, but it's still the protagonist that you'll want to keep an eye out, so the bonuses of the sword will probably best suit the vagrant.
- restriction to studded leather... this is how I always played rangers, since with armor higher than studded you cannot use thieving skills and rangers excel in stealth already very early on in the game. There are some nice ranger stealth armors out there anyway, so that's not really a bad thing.


I think I will play IAv5 as a Vagrant, but only after my first run through with an avenger. If I play Vagrant I think I might even try it soloing or with only one mage party member (Aerie -> Imoen for instance). I've never played a primary druid before and I'd like to try out the Avenger now and see how well it functions. I've played with Cernd as a werewolf of course and I know the strength of the melee capabilities of druid spells using Jaheira a bunch of times. I think I am forced to allow it to get proficiencies faster though so I can get 1 star in all primary weapons so I can try them all out once I find them.

I know that exporting a multiplayer game to singleplayer only renders 2 characters speechless. I just like having my characters with something to say, even if I've seen it plenty of times before. There's also some combinations I haven't used yet, so that may give me some fun talks in between the adventuring and in between the difficult battles. I don't play BG solely for the strategic fights, I like the whole storyline and interjections very much (and for such reason I've helped with some NPC projects). I could always make an Avenger NPC mod though.
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Shaitan   While we are waiting   Sep 15 2007, 06:46 PM
JohnGalt   I plan on changing the kits of some of the bioware...   Sep 15 2007, 09:24 PM
Sikret   If a player's priortiy is to see more new cont...   Sep 16 2007, 11:45 AM
Shaitan   Yes, perhaps your post alone would be good as a gu...   Sep 16 2007, 12:34 PM
Raven   Does this mean that to face the second battle of ...   Sep 16 2007, 01:48 PM
Sikret   Does this mean that to face the second battle of ...   Sep 16 2007, 02:16 PM
lroumen   I'm currently playing a solo game with an evil...   Sep 16 2007, 03:55 PM
lroumen   I finally made a decision (I've been thinking ...   Oct 4 2007, 03:02 PM
Sikret   I finally made a decision (I've been thinking ...   Oct 6 2007, 12:06 AM
shadan   I have 2 plans also. I want only 5 man party since...   Sep 17 2007, 07:53 AM
Shaitan   Due to Sikrets quest list I might just go with the...   Sep 17 2007, 08:14 AM
lroumen   The problem is that as it stands, there are seemin...   Sep 17 2007, 08:50 AM
Shaitan   I think when it comes down to the new XPlists, the...   Sep 17 2007, 09:03 AM
lroumen   I've thought it over and I think an Avenger wo...   Sep 17 2007, 09:40 AM
Raven   No, when it says 'Druids must be neutral',...   Sep 17 2007, 10:11 AM
Sikret   About evil characters: not only do you lose conten...   Sep 17 2007, 11:12 AM
lroumen   I can edit "alignmnt.2da" and place a ...   Sep 17 2007, 06:20 PM
Shaitan   I guess it's no secret anyway.   Sep 17 2007, 10:37 AM
Ryel ril Ers   Sikret, do you plan new content for evil character...   Sep 17 2007, 03:49 PM
Sikret   Make the donate more expensive This seems to be a...   Sep 17 2007, 04:02 PM
Sikret   Make the donate more expensive (dont kill it becau...   Sep 19 2007, 06:38 AM
Ryel ril Ers   Make the donate more expensive (dont kill it becau...   Sep 19 2007, 04:19 PM
Sikret   [quote name='Sikret' post='25694' date='Sep 19 200...   Sep 19 2007, 06:27 PM
Shaitan   It would like to propose a increased price for res...   Sep 17 2007, 04:28 PM
luan   I've never used the donate option, but yes, I ...   Sep 17 2007, 06:15 PM
Shaitan   After a good deal of consideration am I thinking o...   Sep 19 2007, 11:39 AM
Sikret   After a good deal of consideration am I thinking o...   Sep 19 2007, 12:11 PM
Shaitan   Yes a Necromancer has crossed my minds, but I tend...   Sep 19 2007, 12:44 PM
shadan   Haer'Dalis is an excellent choice as tank and ...   Sep 19 2007, 01:20 PM
trufa   If they are the only two choice, than Xan, becau...   Sep 19 2007, 02:42 PM
Shaitan   @Ryel ril Ers: Probably an good necromancer. @tru...   Sep 19 2007, 04:47 PM
trufa   Shaitan: You are misunderstanding me. I wrote my p...   Sep 20 2007, 01:09 PM
Shaitan   Overpowered items with design errors. I used to us...   Oct 4 2007, 04:56 PM
lroumen   well, since it's only a shop I can have a look...   Oct 4 2007, 07:22 PM
Shaitan   There's only six items AFAIR, better of with i...   Oct 4 2007, 08:04 PM
Vardaman   I like Under-represented Items (from IWDII). Some...   Oct 4 2007, 11:51 PM
lroumen   Oh my, it seems I made a mistake :blink: . I did m...   Oct 5 2007, 07:51 AM
Shaitan   :lol: Just remember to buy you license before thro...   Oct 5 2007, 09:19 AM
Sikret   BTW does anybody know if a sword ie +1/+3 against ...   Oct 5 2007, 09:59 AM
aVENGER   In IA it's the other way round. All such weapo...   Oct 5 2007, 03:31 PM
Shaitan   Ohh thanks! I had given it some thoughts. BTW...   Oct 5 2007, 10:21 AM
lroumen   there are some inconsistencies in vanilla though. ...   Oct 5 2007, 02:47 PM
Sikret   The +4 bonuses are written in Daystar's descri...   Oct 5 2007, 03:00 PM
lroumen   I agree. When I play IA v5 I intend to shop at t...   Oct 5 2007, 05:39 PM
lroumen   There are plenty of quests in the game. I think I ...   Oct 7 2007, 07:22 AM
Sikret   There are plenty of quests in the game. I think I ...   Oct 7 2007, 09:50 AM
lroumen   I like interjections ;), besides, I'm going to...   Oct 7 2007, 06:57 PM
Sikret   One custom NPC (the druid you want) occupies only ...   Oct 7 2007, 08:39 PM
DavidW   Actually it's a slightly bigger reduction than...   Oct 8 2007, 06:34 AM
lroumen   Well to be honest, I've played enough wizards ...   Oct 8 2007, 09:02 AM
Sikret   Ok, play the game the way you enjoy it most, Iroum...   Oct 8 2007, 09:14 AM
lroumen   I don't really see a problem for min/maxing a ...   Oct 8 2007, 10:16 AM
Sikret   A vagrant would be 13/13/14/3/14/12 requirements a...   Oct 8 2007, 11:17 AM
lroumen   Well, you only need some protection from normal we...   Oct 8 2007, 12:06 PM
Sikret   Well, you only need some protection from normal we...   Oct 8 2007, 12:13 PM
muddymissfit   Well after taking a gander at the new level progre...   Nov 13 2007, 09:32 AM
Sikret   Thanks for the kind words, muddymissfit! the ...   Nov 13 2007, 10:11 AM


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