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Sikret
post Sep 4 2007, 08:28 AM
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While I understand that these people are really envious of Improved Anvil's quality and popularity, I really didn't expect them to go so far to write such disgusting lies:

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whereas this can't be proven unless I had access to the BWL database (to cross-check IPs), I strongly suspect that the fanbase is at least partially astroturfed.
Hilarious!

All of the people who have sent praising post about IA are known people who have used the same nicknames in all forums for years (see Sorcerer's place for example).

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As a semi-proof, you don't see people posting praise this often at no other mod forum.


Well, that's because:

1- Improved Anvil is the only bugfree big mod.
2- Improved Anvil adds so many new quests and new content to the game.
3- Improved Anvil has high quality (= no bugs, no CTDs, good tactical challenges, new encounters, new monsters, expanded strongholds, Item randomizer and so on)

Instead of deducing the natural consequence that players really like IA, the envious modder has decided to conclude that these posters are not real (i.e. it is me who is posting here with different nicknames to praise my own mod!!)

He also claims that we delete criticisms which is another lie. We have only deleted insulting or trolling posts in the past. Constructive and polite criticisms have never been deleted; some of the topics (a minority of them not all of them) have been closed after a while but none of them have been deleted (even a degree of rudeness has been tolerated and even though some posts have been tactless and insulting enough to deserve being deleted, we kept them).

Where is the modding community going to?

My suggestion to them is to make a better mod than IA if they can. In that case, players will send praising posts to their forums. No more disgusting lies and accusations please. I am fed up with such lies.

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Spike
post Sep 4 2007, 10:34 AM
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I'm a german player and im real. I havent completely finished IA yet, still waiting for v4.3 for a full walkthrough. but so far i can say i really like IA. I can understand if some users dont like this mod, but everyone can make his own decision. You can always uninstall IA, but to say there are fake users, who praise IA without a proof is really an impudence. It tells it owns tale.
You do a great job and i hope u arent affected by such stupid comments and continue your work on this project with the existing quality.

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Sikret
post Sep 4 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(Spike @ Sep 4 2007, 03:04 PM) *
You can always uninstall IA, but to say there are fake users, who praise IA without a proof is really an impudence. It tells it owns tale.


That's the point, Spike! Thanks.

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You do a great job and i hope u arent affected by such stupid comments and continue your work on this project with the existing quality.
Rest assured. Such "lies" are not new to us. They kept doing this since long time ago. I ignore them 99% of the times, because as you mentioned, what they write tells its own tale. Most of the times they don't need any reply from us. Intelligent players know how to interpret them.

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For what it's worth, nobody's flaming IA. Not everyone enjoys it, but every player is different. The original poster requested an assessment. Assessments were provided. Most were neutral in tone. All things considered, I would view the discussion taking place as just that, discussion.


You are also one of the players who has sent praising comments about IA. Are you a fake poster? Was it me who was using your nickname at that time?!

Perhaps you have changed your mind about IA since that time, but this is not my point. The point is that it was you. It was not me using your nickname.

Discussion is all right, but spreading lies is different.

Apart from that particular post, even the other posts in that thread at G3 do not provide players (including the original poster) with any valid assessment of the mod. One of the guest-posters has admitted that he has not played IA v4.x at all and his memory of the mod is quite outdated and goes back to IA v3 (which was much different than v4.2 which is the current version and not comparable with the forthcoming v4.3 in the least) and has also admitted that he has not played even the v3 long enough. So, the entire thread (which includes some lies and some outdated information) can hardly provide any good assessment or advice for players.

Most of the criticisms are already replied to either in the mod's F.A.Q. or in various threads in this forum. All this said, I am the first person who has repeatedly said that those who don't like my methods can simply ignore my mod and don't play it. But writing lies such as IA players are fake is something quite different.

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Sikret   Players! You are not real!   Sep 4 2007, 08:28 AM
shadan   Agree Sikret. I am a hungarian player, not your an...   Sep 4 2007, 09:13 AM
coaster   TBH I am uncomfortable with this kind of inter-for...   Sep 4 2007, 10:28 AM
Spike   I'm a german player and im real. I havent comp...   Sep 4 2007, 10:34 AM
Sikret   You can always uninstall IA, but to say there are ...   Sep 4 2007, 02:44 PM
berelinde   For what it's worth, nobody's flaming IA. ...   Sep 4 2007, 10:55 AM
Arkain   Oh, come on! You are ALL so very unreal! I...   Sep 4 2007, 04:03 PM
Baronius   There are two possible reasons why someone loves t...   Sep 4 2007, 05:49 PM
Shaitan   Hi Baronious! I also had some difficaulties...   Sep 4 2007, 06:23 PM
Baronius   I don't want to hijack this topic, but I'm...   Sep 4 2007, 06:41 PM
Shaitan   :) I know you intend to do good Baronius, and I te...   Sep 4 2007, 06:58 PM
Marceror   Wow, whoever made the comment about an "artif...   Sep 14 2007, 05:45 AM
SimDing0   Heh. I'm sorry my quest is too small for you. ...   Sep 14 2007, 01:31 PM
Marceror   Heh. I'm sorry my quest is too small for you. ...   Sep 14 2007, 02:42 PM
SimDing0   Do you really think my point was such a stretch? N...   Sep 14 2007, 03:27 PM
berelinde   Heh. I'm sorry my quest is too small for you. ...   Sep 14 2007, 04:51 PM
Shaitan   Burglary o t Bookkeeper actually becomes long with...   Sep 14 2007, 01:49 PM
Caedwyr   Burglary o t Bookkeeper At first glance I read th...   Sep 14 2007, 03:14 PM
SimDing0   CONCEPTUALLY INCOMPATIBLE!   Sep 14 2007, 02:19 PM
lroumen   CONCEPTUALLY INCOMPATIBLE! I don't mean to...   Sep 14 2007, 02:51 PM
Toxeus   Wanna see real freakshow? Then read last pages of...   Sep 14 2007, 03:04 PM
lroumen   Wanna see real freakshow? Then read last pages of...   Sep 14 2007, 04:26 PM
SimDing0   While that thread certainly is a complete circus a...   Sep 14 2007, 04:40 PM
Marceror   @SimDing0 Hey, it's not that I lack a sense o...   Sep 14 2007, 05:59 PM
SimDing0   I never stop being funny.   Sep 14 2007, 06:41 PM
Marceror   I never stop being funny. In your own mind, at le...   Sep 14 2007, 06:52 PM
SimDing0   I don't know what bait you think I'm putti...   Sep 14 2007, 07:25 PM
Sikret   Improved Anvil is the only bugfree [b]big mod. I ...   Sep 15 2007, 05:30 AM
Sikret   Also, it's not a healthy argumentation style t...   Sep 15 2007, 07:12 AM
SimDing0   I'm not sure I'd really consider IA a big ...   Sep 15 2007, 12:19 PM
Sikret   Let's give it a rest, everyone. I allowed SimD...   Sep 15 2007, 12:57 PM
Baronius   I don't want to revive the topic or make any s...   Sep 25 2007, 05:53 PM
Sikret   Well, if every time we notice a new lie we re-open...   Sep 26 2007, 07:36 AM
Baronius   That's very true, Sikret! Fortunately, IA...   Sep 26 2007, 03:11 PM


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